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Couple questions for my Dbol users

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Can dbol bloat be eliminated through use of an AI? Some say its not possible because Dbol will bloat via another mechanism in which an "AI" cannot prevent.

My other question....

Does dbol really help to build muscle like other steroids do? Or does it just fill muscles up with water and not actually do much to build muscle?

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I've only used dbol a few times, for me 1.25 of letro e3d takes care of the bloating, I don't bloat in the face at all even at 50mg a day. Be carful tho letro is strong, don't over do it or you'll nuke ur estrogen. Your running that with test I hope. And dbol can provide great muscle gains assuming everything elce is on point. (diet,training,ect) you will most likely lose1/3 of the weight you gain because that's just water. The water weight loss would be much less using this letro protocol.( giving a more realistic idea of how much actual muscle you've put on).... It works for me and others I know...... moon face is a dead giveaway!
 
where do you come up with these questions bro?

I would tell you to try it and if you don't like the results then try something else. way too much speculation

when I've stacked dbol with proviron its no problem

when I've stacked dbol with test its a problem.

that's why I tell guys not to stack wet compounds together without a dry one too
 
The d-bol "bloat" is a result of water creatine and blood volume. It makes you strong and expands the fascia, gives bigger pumps which allows more nutrients to enter the mitochondria and grow muscles. Why would you want to prevent it? If you don't want to be bigger, don't use d-bol.
 
I think the dbol bloat is blown up to much. It does bloat but not to where you becone a red faced swollen unrecognisable mess..

I think the way it makes you feel and the effects of it outweight the little bit of bloat..

For me dbol is the king of orals

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IME Dbol bloat is controlled easily with Aromasin, I've never had problem with it actually. Even at 50-60 mgs a day, 25 mgs of Aromasin kept the bloat off very easily.
Then again the bloat from Abombs is an completely different thing, now that's pretty uncontrollable, lol!
At least with an AI, what does make sense since Oxys don't/can't aromatize, but still bloat one up more than any AAS that aromatizes to Estro... Or at least they do it to me. It's a weird compound...

I would never use Letro as my AI of choice, unless I really had to. I am extremely strong responder to it, so it's nearly impossible for me to dose it without crushing Estro completely.


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Dose anyone have any experience with running a low dose of winny and dbol. Seems like they would work pretty well together.
 
and now for some input of my own...i've ran dbol numerous times as well as tbol, drol, winny, var, prov, the list goes on...I found that it was the best oral i've ever ran ever. Sure drols got me bigger and stronger, sure winny tightened me up a little better, but my diet had more of an influx on how i responded bloat wise than the compound itself...when i ate like shit and ate everything i saw, i bloated a little more....when i ate clean, took in a gallon of water a day, limited my cals, etc; I didn't get anymore bloat from it than i did from test and winny #bible

cheers :coffee:

~Alc
 
I agree letro is strong shit but I never have issues when using the liquid. You can accurately dose down to 0.25 mg if you need. However the bloat is defanitly not nessary to get the benifits of bdol, it will still rapidly increase protein synthesis, increase blood volume, massively decrease cortizol and increase muscle glycogen. Dbol is my favorite oral by far... I hate the bloating but I love the benifits, I can't tell you how many times I hear that statement on blogs all the time. It can be controled with the proper ai dosing weather it be letro, aromisin, adex ect. Letro is my ai of choice haha I can run my dbols without looking like a f*#%*#* mongaloid haha
 
Dose anyone have any experience with running a low dose of winny and dbol. Seems like they would work pretty well together.

I've ran 25 mg Dbol with 50 mg of Winny. Everyone's different and needs to find the right dose for them. However, I like the combo and will use them again.
 
How would a low dose of dbol and winny work? As long as the overall mg is not too high.

Its fucking outstanding. You get the vest of both drugs and they counteract each others negatives. But start slow as it can be brutal I'd you jump too fast with the headaches and such. Start at 10-20 mg each and slowly work up to desired effect. Don't forget the n2guard.

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