Controlled Deliveries coming for some...

[mvmaxx]

I honestly cannot stand spreading shit unless I know for sure it's happening or not. But another source got busted and someone close to him says that they are setting up controlled deliveries. I wasn't going to say shit but then if I don't and someone gets busted then I'm going to feel like shit. Plus I know a few of you bros use this guy.

If you're ordering Mex gear from Mex but ship domestic and your guy's initials are PD or D****3** then clean house and don't send money.

I even know of one bro that was right about to send off cash. I sure hope you didn't. I sent you a PM.

Be careful bros!


And again, please don't PM me or e-mail me asking for the sources name. If you don't use someone that goes by those initials then it really doesn't apply to you.

 

[mvmaxx]

BTW, I give the credit to Nutri-Wrester for finding this info.

 

[Frackal]

We need to find out the source of this increased attention.

 

[bigjim33]

i have read about this from mutilple people. it has been like a week and people he usually talked to everyday haven't heard from him so i would clean house and take a vacation if you have an order pending, as supposedly after pack 1001 went to "his" box they nabbed him and have all orders from the last week supposedly so stay safe

 

[Big Anaconda]

What is going on lately it seems controlled devliveries are flavor of the month right now.

 

[thexman88]

That really sucks!! Damn . I was wondering.

 

[Themachine01]

I'll bump this to the top for you guys

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

Question

I'm not sure if I know who you're talking about (don't know his initials). And not asking for a name, but could you tell me if this guy had a website that existed a week ago but is something else now?

NN

 

[SofaGeorge]

We need to find out the source of this increased attention.

It's real simple. There are Feds working the boards. They've been here a long time and are respected members with good post counts. When somebody posts... they PM or email the poster and ask for a "hook up." They ahd made ever major source that uses these boards within a month of being here. They are smart and they know their stuff.

Anytime a dumb ass kid gets a source it makes him feel like a big man to be able to give it to somebody else... like he is "in the know." There is no screening. There is no thought to reality.

Only the dumbest dumb ass on the planet would ever give out a source. I would never give out a top quaity sources name... ever. I've known the same source for more than a decade. They don't get arrested because the WOULDN'T take orders or hook up with people over the 'net... and they think the guys who do are idiots.

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

Re: Question

I'm not sure if I know who you're talking about (don't know his initials). And not asking for a name, but could you tell me if this guy had a website that existed a week ago but is something else now?

NN

Shit I think I know the one your talking about... I recieved an order from them like 3 weeks ago. Sheesh. No orders pending for me right now.

 

[Zyglamail]

What is going on lately it seems controlled devliveries are flavor of the month right now.

Controlled deliveries combined with lack of education means the gov can fool/pressure people on the receiving end and try and use them to build cases against sources.

 

[no clone]

Bump^

 

[Themachine01]

Controlled deliveries combined with lack of education means the gov can fool/pressure people on the receiving end and try and use them to build cases against sources.

lets say, for example, that someone recieves a small order and it ends up on the front step along with the feds. If this person has a totally clean house, how hard will they push to charge them for a small order?

 

[Zyglamail]

lets say, for example, that someone recieves a small order and it ends up on the front step along with the feds. If this person has a totally clean house, how hard will they push to charge them for a small order?

In cases like this they have to get you to accept the order, if you refuse to even touch the package and take delivery, there isnt much they can do from what I understand.

 

[Frackal]

That depends on whether the warrant requires that you accept delivery for them to bust your house down...

Here is the key, the interrogation is where they will get you... even the biggest hardasses get broken down and tricked/fooled by the police who are experts...

More than anything else, if you are being interrogated, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! Don't deny and try to concoct some story, just politely say that you want to exercise your right to counsel and other than that, I say again, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

 

[Frackal]

It's real simple. There are Feds working the boards. They've been here a long time and are respected members with good post counts. When somebody posts... they PM or email the poster and ask for a "hook up." They ahd made ever major source that uses these boards within a month of being here. They are smart and they know their stuff.

Anytime a dumb ass kid gets a source it makes him feel like a big man to be able to give it to somebody else... like he is "in the know." There is no screening. There is no thought to reality.

Only the dumbest dumb ass on the planet would ever give out a source. I would never give out a top quaity sources name... ever. I've known the same source for more than a decade. They don't get arrested because the WOULDN'T take orders or hook up with people over the 'net... and they think the guys who do are idiots.

Good points bro...I've never given out a source either, not that I know any ... What I meant was, why the increased attention.... this seems to happen every year around this time...maybe for budget reasons? OR, is it something different and worse this year?

 

[Canuck4]

Wheres Gilly when you need him?
Drop me a line bro.

 

[Lift Chief]

Good points bro...I've never given out a source either, not that I know any ... What I meant was, why the increased attention.... this seems to happen every year around this time...maybe for budget reasons? OR, is it something different and worse this year?

Good question.

 

[Zyglamail]

That depends on whether the warrant requires that you accept delivery for them to bust your house down...

If they have a warrant then they allready have enough dirt on you or they wouldnt have a warrent. A controlled delivery would be just icing on the cake wouldnt it?

 

[Citruscide]

Awww Damnit....

C-ditty

 

[Lift Chief]

In cases like this they have to get you to accept the order, if you refuse to even touch the package and take delivery, there isnt much they can do from what I understand.

I thought that if your house was clean then you were safe?

I mean what person- if they have a package at their front door with their name on it- does not accept it?

I don't see how you couldn't make a defense that every upstanding citizen who gets a package with their name on it would of course accept it.

Like everyone says- if you just don't like someone you could send some coke or whatever with crappy packaging and get someone popped.

 

[Big Anaconda]

These feds really are cunts, arent there real criminals to be had? What about this gang problems we always hear about???? I dont think people fuck each other over for 'roids, it makes me sick people like us are persecuted. Some of the discipline bodybuilding teaches you is no where near criminal, if anything our values should be applauded.

 

[Frackal]

If they have a warrant then they allready have enough dirt on you or they wouldnt have a warrent. A controlled delivery would be just icing on the cake wouldnt it?

Well according to legal muscle (I'll have to doublecheck but pretty sure), many of the CD warrants are dependant on YOU or someone in your family (which is shitty) accepting the package before executing the warrant.

One thing I would do is dont open the door very wide if you do decide to answer it to the postal delivery person/possible agent. Rick gave one story in there about a guy who refused the pack, started to slam the door and the agent tried to throw the pack in his house but it didnt make it.... the agents then decided to do a 'knock and talk' but the guy wouldnt answer the door and he never heard from then again...assumingly because their warrant was dependant on acceptance into the household.

 

[Zyglamail]

I thought that if your house was clean then you were safe?

I mean what person- if they have a package at their front door with their name on it- does not accept it?

I don't see how you couldn't make a defense that every upstanding citizen who gets a package with their name on it would of course accept it.

Like everyone says- if you just don't like someone you could send some coke or whatever with crappy packaging and get someone popped.

Get Ricks book, you would not beleive some of the shit these feds do and get away with also some of the penalties are so severe you would have nightmares. This fucking government makes me sick.

The crack whore down the street can get knocked up and have abortion after abortion because she has the right to do what she wants with her body even if its killing another. The celebrities line up getting nose jobs, boob jobs, lipo and who knows what else. Smokers smoke away and I have to put up with second hand smoke, The drinkers get hammered and I have to share roads with them. Yet, I cant even use AAS which has NOT been proven to be any more harmfull than half the OTC shit we take every week because the governemtn has a hardon for it.

 

[mvmaxx]

I will also add that if you have ordered from him in the past and if he kept records of transactions then you may be paid a visit and interrogated so that they can use you as a witness in his trial. This can happen even if you aren't expecting any packages and have a clean house. This has already happened to one member of the board.

 

[Canuck4]

Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

 

[Citruscide]

If they have enough dirt on you to deliver to you... then they will most likely have enough dirt to get you whether or not you sign or accept the package.

Now, if it is just some package arriving out of the blue... that you didn't order... then I'd think you'd be ok... but if YOU ordered it, and deny recept... they can pretty much STILL get you... regardless.

If a Source gets busted, and your name was on a recent mailing list... from that information alone, it is not enough to come search your house...

Also, keep in mind... that many times, the feds don't give a rats ass about "steroids" -- they really don't. They care alot about Dangerous drugs... as evidenced in the past... DNP, Ketamine, etc... If you ordered some juice from a source that got busted, I seriously doubt you'll be followed up on.

Federal Agents are not dumbasses... they are for the most part highly intelligent guys... most of them are attorneys or have higher educations and analytical thinking abilities. NEVER think you can outsmart them... even I, someone who knows the law pretty damn good... would NEVER say anything other than "It's a beautiful day outside"

I will give anyone advice... via PM....

C-ditty

 

[The Terminator]

I will also add that if you have ordered from him in the past and if he kept records of transactions then you may be paid a visit and interrogated so that they can use you as a witness in his trial. This can happen even if you aren't expecting any packages and have a clean house. This has already happened to one member of the board.

A member has already been visited...

 

[liftsiron]

Bump

 

[Themachine01]

If you are recieving a package via USPS you dont have to sign for anything, its just a matter of walking out to your mailbox and pulling it out. Can feds disguise themselves as your everyday mailman? or would they wait around the corner for you to pull it out of your mailbox?

 

[Seth28]

they could do either-postman or wait.
yeah most of them are pretty smart guys and are highly trained. The problem isnt with the guys who enforce the laws, the problem is the ones who make them!

 

[40butpumpin]

...the penalties are so severe you would have nightmares...

Oh shit, I already worry too much.

 

[Lift Chief]

Oh shit, I already worry too much.

Seriously

 

[gilly6993]

FUUUUCKKKKKK!!!!.....thanks for the info.....Canuck check your mail.....

 

[gilly6993]

word is the romor is a hoax....the person that started it has retracted it on massmonsters......Warbird has spoken with the source and can tell by the wording and typing it's him....we'll see.....

 

[no clone]

Bump^

 

[Canuck4]

I think it was a hoax. The thread at massmonsters got deleted.
Lets all take a deep breath and chill

 

[louis]

These feds really are cunts, arent there real criminals to be had? What about this gang problems we always hear about???? I dont think people fuck each other over for 'roids, it makes me sick people like us are persecuted. Some of the discipline bodybuilding teaches you is no where near criminal, if anything our values should be applauded.

I hear ya bro

 

[louis]

Get Ricks book, you would not beleive some of the shit these feds do and get away with also some of the penalties are so severe you would have nightmares. This fucking government makes me sick.

The crack whore down the street can get knocked up and have abortion after abortion because she has the right to do what she wants with her body even if its killing another. The celebrities line up getting nose jobs, boob jobs, lipo and who knows what else. Smokers smoke away and I have to put up with second hand smoke, The drinkers get hammered and I have to share roads with them. Yet, I cant even use AAS which has NOT been proven to be any more harmfull than half the OTC shit we take every week because the governemtn has a hardon for it.

yea bro i say the same thing.......it just don't make sence

 

[mvmaxx]

Very glad to hear this Gilly. Oh and Terminator - someone did get visited but it was not related to this. It was the KJ incident.

 

[lousygenes]

Pardon my ignorance, but if you live in an apartment, would your car also be searched? How about if you live in a house and park your car down the block? Or do warrants normally only state the residence?

 

[emptywallet]

Good points bro...I've never given out a source either, not that I know any ... What I meant was, why the increased attention.... this seems to happen every year around this time...maybe for budget reasons? OR, is it something different and worse this year?

Its strange you say that. In the town I live in, there is about a 50 percent increase in drug related charges brought against people around here. Its strange. I've never seen anything like it. Its ok for the rest of the year, minor this and that. But then in the beginning of January, look out if you even care to purchase banned substances, because most likely your going to jail. It lasts until about the end of February middle of march or so.

 

[Themachine01]

Pardon my ignorance, but if you live in an apartment, would your car also be searched? How about if you live in a house and park your car down the block? Or do warrants normally only state the residence?

They can check anything they want, including your car, as long as it is specified on the warrent. I really dont think that parking down the street from your house is going to fool anyone, and what the hell would you want to do that for anyway , just park in your drive way bro, unless of course your doing it for the extra cardio .

 

[animal B]

I requarly speak with this source..he has always answered my mail....he is fine...and like all on this boared...its a rumor...vmax who ever you are get your stories straight....

 

[mvmaxx]

I requarly speak with this source..he has always answered my mail....he is fine...and like all on this boared...its a rumor...vmax who ever you are get your stories straight....

Bro, I'm glad you personally know him and he's ok. But don't fuckin tell me to get my story straight. I didn't originate this info. It stemmed from massmonters and from someone who claimed he knew him very well and was busted. I didn't have to say shit but I did knowing that a few bros on this site have ordered or were about to order from him. I could have sat back and not said shit and then if it was true those guys would have been fucked. Better safe then sorry when it comes to protecting people.

Good to see you're doing your part helping. Fuck off dipshit, I don't care who you think you are. You obvioulsy are too dumb to see what I was trying to do.

 

[drveejay11]

I requarly speak with this source..he has always answered my mail....he is fine...and like all on this boared...its a rumor...vmax who ever you are get your stories straight....

DUDE...what's your fucking deal? MVMAXX tries to help everybody out and you cop an attitude with him? WTF

Let me guess, if YOUR ass would have gotten "busted" you would have cried me fucking river saying "how come no one warned my dumb-ass "

Re-read MVMAXX's comments again bro REAL carefully next time before you pop off to the wrong dude!!!

MVMAXX was just trying to give everyone a head's up. That's IT!

 

[Canuck4]

Get a clue dumbass.

MVmaxx didnt create that rumor.
It was posted at Massmonsters.com board.
He was trying to warn us so we dont get busted for controlled deliveries.
His efforts are appreciate it by all of us.
Mad props to mvmaxx for looking out.

I requarly speak with this source..he has always answered my mail....he is fine...and like all on this boared...its a rumor...vmax who ever you are get your stories straight....

 

[SOLID]

I requarly speak with this source..he has always answered my mail....he is fine...and like all on this boared...its a rumor...vmax who ever you are get your stories straight....

I guess someone needs to learn to read thourougly. What a KOOK. Mvmaxx, don't sweat the moron.

 

[emptywallet]

Animal, I know your just trying to clear things up man. You shouldnt have directed the comment at MV, but I know you really meant no harm. I was here when you used to post all the time. I enjoyed reading some of your updates and I havent seen you in awhile. MV, animal is a great bro and has been here and around for a very very long time. I don't believe he meant any disrespect to you, however he should have worded it differently. He's been this stuff alot longer than you or I, and understands it pretty well. I see how you could take offense at what he said. But there was no harm intended I'm sure. Lets try and at least keep the thread civil.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Mvmaxx is an upstanding bro. He acted appropriately given the situation.

 

[emptywallet]

Mvmaxx is an upstanding bro. He acted appropriately given the situation.

I would agree. However, I am also saying that I believe animal should not be thrown into the Kook, idiot, or any other category. He's competed and done very well in competitions several times. The ending comment of his was not needed, however I don't believe he wanted it to be seen as an attacking post. I do see where MV could take offense at it. I agree with you Sofa, and I am glad MV made the thread as well. On another note, I like the taste of Carao now!! Did you ever read my first experience with it? Do a search for me and find where I talk about "The Onyx sludge from hell" or something like that. You'll probably want to send it to Lloyd.

 

[SofaGeorge]

I would agree. However, I am also saying that I believe animal should not be thrown into the Kook, idiot, or any other category. He's competed and done very well in competitions several times. The ending comment of his was not needed, however I don't believe he wanted it to be seen as an attacking post. I do see where MV could take offense at it. I agree with you Sofa, and I am glad MV made the thread as well. On another note, I like the taste of Carao now!! Did you ever read my first experience with it? Do a search for me and find where I talk about "The Onyx sludge from hell" or something like that. You'll probably want to send it to Lloyd.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=202369&highlight=Onyx+sludge



Somehow I missed that when you first posted. it. I'm emailing it to Lloyd.

 

[BigAndy69]

Bro, I'm glad you personally know him and he's ok. But don't fuckin tell me to get my story straight. I didn't originate this info. It stemmed from massmonters and from someone who claimed he knew him very well and was busted. I didn't have to say shit but I did knowing that a few bros on this site have ordered or were about to order from him. I could have sat back and not said shit and then if it was true those guys would have been fucked. Better safe then sorry when it comes to protecting people.

Good to see you're doing your part helping. Fuck off dipshit, I don't care who you think you are. You obvioulsy are too dumb to see what I was trying to do.

You go girl!

 

[emptywallet]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=202369&highlight=Onyx+sludge



Somehow I missed that when you first posted. it. I'm emailing it to Lloyd.

I'm glad you liked it man. It took me a long long time to write. I thought it was funny and I can't believe I didnt get more replies than I did. I'm glad you liked it man. I got really bored one night after studying and just banged it out in about an hour. I edited a few things until I was laughing myself typing it. Its my favorite work of art. Glad I could give you a good laugh man.