concerning the cops who were busted

[aahepp]

Well macro you have one bad point there. You was talking about it being to high priced and low availability. What about AS. These are higher priced then any crack, PCP, herion out there. And they are just as hard to find if not harder. When have you seen a juice head selling it on the street?? So if that is the arguement then why is there not drug related crimes where AS was the intension??

 

[afflicted]

I guess when bodybuilders start asking to blow you for gear, we've got a problem. I have seen the worst of all street drugs and spent a long time in a hardcore bb environment as well, big difference and I judge gear differently. I think all cops should be on gear, it would make their jobs a lot easier, especially behind bars tossing prisoners.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

My comments are directed to the treatment of ALL drugs, not a comparison between "street drugs" and "AS".

However, take care when making comments about blow jobs being offered- the ties between the Gay community and bodybuilding are not merely for aesthetic appreciation. Several top bodybuilders have admitted to nude photography and private "sessions" in exchange for the top end gear (GH especially)

AS are not physically addictive- so if compared they should be compared to street drugs that are not physically addictive.

Finding and weakening the root causes of addiction are what the war on drugs should be about- not punishing people for trying to escape from a reality that may be bland, painful or even horrific to them.

 

[METALFLEX]

i think this is one of the best discuscions i have yet to see on this board...

 

[Clambake]

This is a simple argument.

1. There is no constitutional basis for drugs to be illegal, federally. In fact, most federal drug laws are clearly unconstitutional.
2. There is no moral basis for them to be illegal. You have no right to tell me what I put in my body, be it steroids or crack. Period. If I crank up and go killin', then arrest me for murder. Preventing crime by limiting my personal rights is simply immoral. In extremus - why not create a 10:00 curfew for everyone under 18. Think of the number of crimes we'd prevent.

To me, it's very simple. I can own guns. I can shoot crank. I can do whatever the fuck I want unless it physically or economically (by coercion or fraud) harms someone else.

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

hey big brother, this was well said

But I can't accept a steroid being in any way like other "recreational" drugs. I never had to arrest someone for plowing into a minivan with 4 kids inside, because he was impaired from his Equipoise shot.



i agree with everything you said, right on bro.

 

[bad brains]

Damn good thread, good info from both sides, although I agree more with what val's trying to convey, macro has also brought up some good points.....a good read.....

 

[n8thegr8]

Here's the difference between lets say Sust 250 and Crack. A person doing Sust 250. Has a Job. Probably works hard. Goes to the Gym everyday. Shoots his Juice. Goes home and watches SportsCenter. 9/10ths this is the case. Now a person on crack... Proabably is Homeless or in a low economic enviorment with plenty of bad things surrounding them. They obviously don't have a Job and never do anything constructive throughout there day. They will put a gun to your head and maybe shoot you for money to buy their crack. The bottom line is because of the expense and luxury of training, it is a standard to have somewhat of a constructive life if your a Juicer. Crackheads usually don't do anything constructive towards society. There actually a threat to the other man. Hard drugs are usually affiliated with low economic enviorments and indirectly cause harm to the innocent. Steroids, most often don't. And for the rich people who do coke... I think all of us know someone who was killed by a drunk and High Driver. How many of you know someone who was killed by some guy with roid rage?

 

[imprint516]

BUMP!!!