Community values

[peptideruss]

Let us have an open discussion on shared community values...I raised an issue on the asylums page which was rightly called out why only on his page....what is the purpose of this community?...I thought it was to build each other up through knowledge and reputable services....a vendors putting excessive taxes on peptides sourced domestically is not consistent with care for the community that has given them wealth success support.

The argument of if imported they can charge 8-10 times cost price is different to products sourced domestically...for a community advertised on being for the members where is the open frank conversations how this is accepted...I am sorry to asylum for making this point on his thread...nothing against him in particular...

If you went to a shop owned by a friend and they sold you a gym belt for $100... Then you found out they bought it next door for $10...defending your friends behaviour is because you are friends?...friends do not treat friends like this.

Sorry to asylum again....

 

[wolf#85]

Who gives a fuck what they charge..it's very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it. There are more than enough vendors to choose from

 

[wolf#85]

You don't go to myer and ask them to discount your jeans because they buy them for $5 a unit and sell for $100. How dare a business make money lol. You def a troll

 

[cejay]

Your missing the point completely

We’re are you getting the gym belt for $10 next door .. your not !

You’re comparing an overseas price to Australian price . Do you not understood the implications of importing illegal substances into this country .. hence the mark up .

From time to time I personally import my own peptides from China and pay a qtr of the listed price here . But it’s not comparing apples with apples is it because to get that lower price i must expect and take onboard the risk .

 

[cejay]

Middleweightpro : this is clearly a new account , however same retard

Go put links up to your Australian listed vendors that have stock in Australia that sell for Chinese prices .

 

[peptideruss]

Who gives a fuck what they charge..it's very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it. There are more than enough vendors to choose from

Why do you bend over backwards to support this?...

You don't go to myer and ask them to discount your jeans because they buy them for $5 a unit and sell for $100. How dare a business make money lol. You def a troll

Do you have access to where Myer buy?..if Myer buy next door for 10 then sell to you for 100...

Your missing the point completely

We’re are you getting the gym belt for $10 next door .. your not !

You’re comparing an overseas price to Australian price . Do you not understood the implications of importing illegal substances into this country .. hence the mark up .

From time to time I personally import my own peptides from China and pay a qtr of the listed price here . But it’s not comparing apples with apples is it because to get that lower price i must expect and take onboard the risk .

You are missing the point... The prices are for product already in Australia..if you read my message I make that very clear these are separate discussions... Why are peptides that are being purchased that are already in Australia being marked up?

Middleweightpro : this is clearly a new account , however same retard

Go put links up to your Australian listed vendors that have stock in Australia that sell for Chinese prices .

You make claim I am someone because you can't accept that you are treated like cash cow?...sharing vendors not on here is against the rules is it not?...if not I will post here for you to see.. Vendors taking advantage of the communities lack of knowledge...

 

[wolf#85]

Alot of bitching..if you can't afford it don't do it. Your not buying popcorn your buying illegal items.

 

[ChewedSleek]

It’s already been explained to you, that it is the vendors taking on the risk, importing peptides and raws ILLEGALLY. Hence why they are more than welcome to charge a markup for doing so.

Vendors also send their peptides and gear off for testing to ensure their products are what they say they are. They also encourage us to do our own testing to keep them accountable and offer reimbursements as incentive.

Ontop of that, we have community members, mods and chairman that do all they can to keep vendors accountable and to keep our community safer as a whole.

No one is stopping you from going your own route to sorting out whatever products you are after, at your own risk. If you are happy to do so - then please do. I personally don’t mind paying what I’m paying for the peace of mind that I’m injecting exactly what I’ve paid for, while also not running the risk of getting done for importing.

 

[cejay]

Why do you bend over backwards to support this?...

Do you have access to where Myer buy?..if Myer buy next door for 10 then sell to you for 100...

You are missing the point... The prices are for product already in Australia..if you read my message I make that very clear these are separate discussions... Why are peptides that are being purchased that are already in Australia being marked up?

You make claim I am someone because you can't accept that you are treated like cash cow?...sharing vendors not on here is against the rules is it not?...if not I will post here for you to see.. Vendors taking advantage of the communities lack of knowledge...

Your probley correct it would be against rules ..

I do understand your opinion and the angle were your coming from in regards to the prices . However I don’t know if these vendors have access to your internal Chinese connections established here in Australia, possibly they do ?

If not and they are purchasing abroad and they are pricing accordingly to the risk vs reward theory, in which we both no is a lucrative business until caught .. then no money in the world was worth it.

If you have managed to secure this so called connection maybe you should look at starting up your own vendor account and bring it online to elite fitness with some competitor bargains on peptides !

 

[cejay]

It’s already been explained to you, that it is the vendors taking on the risk, importing peptides and raws ILLEGALLY. Hence why they are more than welcome to charge a markup for doing so.

Vendors also send their peptides and gear off for testing to ensure their products are what they say they are. They also encourage us to do our own testing to keep them accountable and offer reimbursements as incentive.

Ontop of that, we have community members, mods and chairman that do all they can to keep vendors accountable and to keep our community safer as a whole.

No one is stopping you from going your own route to sorting out whatever products you are after, at your own risk. If you are happy to do so - then please do. I personally don’t mind paying what I’m paying for the peace of mind that I’m injecting exactly what I’ve paid for, while also not running the risk of getting done for importing.

Good point .. for the ones that continually send products for testing can become a expensive cost in which needs to be covered

In regards to compèring apples with apples here .. he is saying that there are options already established in Australia with China direct pricing . So no import concern’s. However that’s under the assumption that these vendors are aware of these companies and use them

 

[Defcon9]

I think that as far as a community goes it’s really people selling drugs and people buying drugs.
If there wasn’t so much money to be made then they wouldn’t be a so called community.
As far as vendors marking up already imported products, well that's on people purchasing if you’re to lazy to do research and find these products and thats the going price you really cant complain.
I also think if you buy off a Chinese warehouse in Australia or not there is zero accountability if the product you buy is not what it says it is.
With a vendor on a forum there’s usually some form of transparency and recourse.

 

[ChewedSleek]

Good point .. for the ones that continually send products for testing can become a expensive cost in which needs to be covered

In regards to compèring apples with apples here .. he is saying that there are options already established in Australia with China direct pricing . So no import concern’s. However that’s under the assumption that these vendors are aware of these companies and use them

I’m very skeptical of options that are “in Australia” at Chinese direct prices. Something about it, just seems off to me.

I think old mate is clicking on Facebook and IG ads, looking at price lists and basing this entire thread off them.

If he wants to take that risk, then go for it. I’d rather put my trust in the vendors here and the community they serve.

 

[MorefreeT]

I can confirm there are warehouses already domestic in Australia that do have pretty well direct china prices. HOWEVER I still chose to use vendors here for a number of reasons, and this is where the value lays:
- I know I’m getting what I pay for
- they go to the lengths to get things tested
- I trust the person on the other side that is a human invested in my health and goals not a China businessman turning profit only
- hypothetically if the vendors did use these sources, I now have insurance in a sense that if I did not have a good experience with their product that there is not a single vendor on this forum that would not make good on ensuring their customer was happy.

That is where the value lays in going through our vendors.

 

[ChewedSleek]

I also think if you buy off a Chinese warehouse in Australia or not there is zero accountability if the product you buy is not what it says it is.

This 100%

 

[peptideruss]

Your probley correct it would be against rules ..

I do understand your opinion and the angle were your coming from in regards to the prices . However I don’t know if these vendors have access to your internal Chinese connections established here in Australia, possibly they do ?

If not and they are purchasing abroad and they are pricing accordingly to the risk vs reward theory, in which we both no is a lucrative business until caught .. then no money in the world was worth it.

If you have managed to secure this so called connection maybe you should look at starting up your own vendor account and bring it online to elite fitness with some competitor bargains on peptides !

The vendors here are buying kits from the warehouses..even sending them to buyers here in the same kit packaging....there is no magic secure connection to these suppliers...it is as simple as ordering from the overseas warehouses... It is not a big hurdle... Users from this forum I see in those group chats...

Good point .. for the ones that continually send products for testing can become a expensive cost in which needs to be covered

In regards to compèring apples with apples here .. he is saying that there are options already established in Australia with China direct pricing . So no import concern’s. However that’s under the assumption that these vendors are aware of these companies and use them

I think that as far as a community goes it’s really people selling drugs and people buying drugs.
If there wasn’t so much money to be made then they wouldn’t be a so called community.
As far as vendors marking up already imported products, well that's on people purchasing if you’re to lazy to do research and find these products and thats the going price you really cant complain.
I also think if you buy off a Chinese warehouse in Australia or not there is zero accountability if the product you buy is not what it says it is.
With a vendor on a forum there’s usually some form of transparency and recourse.

Vendors here are not testing every batch they get...

I’m very skeptical of options that are “in Australia” at Chinese direct prices. Something about it, just seems off to me.

I think old mate is clicking on Facebook and IG ads, looking at price lists and basing this entire thread off them.

If he wants to take that risk, then go for it. I’d rather put my trust in the vendors here and the community they serve.

The suppliers from China have opened Australian warehouses. Same suppliers... Serving the community by price gouging them...

This 100%

 

[cejay]

Ok Rito ..

so what your saying is that you know for certain these vendors are actually sourcing there products domestically via a Chinese seller at Chinese factory direct pricing.

the proof of this in which you claim is verified by the touch down photos of the products that the customer display from there purchase. Which is the same products you see and receive when you buy from these China vendors also ?

 

[wolf#85]

Bottom line is no one gives a fuck. Don't like it don't buy it.

 

[Django_]

While you’re being a hero about mark up prices, would you mind arguing with Woolworths, coles and all the major companies about price gouging on products they buy and mark them up? With your argument I can source local produce and meats but that takes time, effort and the risk of it going wrong and the only one who loses is me?

 

[cejay]

I guess we need to give him the chance to back up his claims with evidence first .. otherwise it’s just words ! I’m still trying to work out how he knows , unless there’s matching barcodes displayed or something similar. I mean he said that the vendor asylum product can be brought for $300 in Australia with no proof . I mean surely he is not going to say the vials or colour lids are the same ., as there like the same supplied to every vendor world wide .. got to be a lil more solid proof ?

 

[ted123]

Bro, I’m reading all of this and trying to understand your purpose here.

That’s a pretty confident claim. Can you provide some evidence that these products are readily available in-country for $300 each?

If you’ve got a legitimate source selling the exact same product at that price, post it up so everyone can see. Otherwise, it’s just speculation.

You seem to forget that pricing isn’t based solely on whether a product has landed in the country. There are import costs, testing, storage, shipping, operating expenses, risk to import and the fact that reputable vendors need to stand behind what they sell.

So instead of throwing numbers around anonymously, back up the claim with some proof. Otherwise your words mean nothing.

 

[abolone]

Bro, I’m reading all of this and trying to understand your purpose here.

That’s a pretty confident claim. Can you provide some evidence that these products are readily available in-country for $300 each?

If you’ve got a legitimate source selling the exact same product at that price, post it up so everyone can see. Otherwise, it’s just speculation.

You seem to forget that pricing isn’t based solely on whether a product has landed in the country. There are import costs, testing, storage, shipping, operating expenses, risk to import and the fact that reputable vendors need to stand behind what they sell.

So instead of throwing numbers around anonymously, back up the claim with some proof. Otherwise your words mean nothing.

There's no purpose he's banned

 

[HarleyGuy]

This whole thread brings me back to the forums of the late 90's early 00's LOL