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DavyDogg

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January of this year I started self prescribed TRT at 200mg a week, late February I did a 12 week blast of 400mg and 60mg Tbol for first 6 weeks then back to 200mg a week. In May I got blood work done and my estrogen was high, around 260 I think. A few weeks ago I felt a hard lump above my right nipple, was worried it was gyno so dropped test to 100mg a week and started 12.5mg of Aromasin eod while waiting to get blood work again. After 6 doses of Aromaisn my blood worked showed my estrogen was at 66 pmol/L so no gyno. Since then the lump has become much smaller and not painful at all. I am still currently on 100mg test a week but then a few days ago out of nowhere I stopped getting erections, not even waking up with one. I now want to come off TRT, doing another week of 100mg then PCT.
PCT will be ..

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20/20/20
GW 12 weeks
N2Generate 4 weeks
ZMA 8 weeks
Omega 3 fish oil
 
DavyDogg said:
January of this year I started self prescribed TRT at 200mg a week, late February I did a 12 week blast of 400mg and 60mg Tbol for first 6 weeks then back to 200mg a week. In May I got blood work done and my estrogen was high, around 260 I think. A few weeks ago I felt a hard lump above my right nipple, was worried it was gyno so dropped test to 100mg a week and started 12.5mg of Aromasin eod while waiting to get blood work again. After 6 doses of Aromaisn my blood worked showed my estrogen was at 66 pmol/L so no gyno. Since then the lump has become much smaller and not painful at all. I am still currently on 100mg test a week but then a few days ago out of nowhere I stopped getting erections, not even waking up with one. I now want to come off TRT, doing another week of 100mg then PCT.
PCT will be ..

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20/20/20
GW 12 weeks
N2Generate 4 weeks
ZMA 8 weeks
Omega 3 fish oil
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@DavyDogg you're all over the place and you are not keeping a log bro why not?

and you know coming off TRT is insanely hard? its NOT normal PCT

you need to redo this whole pct to

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kickstart 500 ius HCG every other day for 2 weeks
clomid
50/50/25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5
nolvadex 60/40/20/20/20/10/10/10
cardarine 20mgs ed
hcgenerate 5 caps ed week 1-8

zma+omega is fine
 
my Test level was still at 1000 and estrogen was at 66 last blood test so not sure why I'm having issues. would it be better to jump back to 200 or 250mg of test for a few months then pct? maybe that will fix my ed issue before going in a long pct?
 
if you want to come off steroids then good luck to you. I made the decision to just stay on your round but I am a professional who makes money in bodybuilding
why don't you log what you end up doing
 
getting up a log Journal will help us help you make the right decision here
if you want to stay on trt that's fine but you need to run it the right way
 
this is going to take a lot of effort on your part if you are going to recover since you've been on for almost a whole year

i personally think you should log it
 
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i'm sure you will be able to log something for us to follow
but hard to know much more than that
 
I did 2 cycles with pct's before this past January when I started trt. I am 41 my diet and training were on track for most of that time but the past few weeks cause of personal issues I am not training nearly as much as I was so that is part of my decision to come off and do a full pct.
 
200 mg of test per week would likely put you at 1400 for a total test number which is WAY too high to walk around at every day.. that will shave years off your life.. your test needs to be in the 650-750 range with trt.. 200 is NOT trt unless you have a very severe hypogonadal condition.. 200 mg is NOT a normal trt dose whatsoever
 
Dylan do you agree with the pct protocol I listed yesterday? I will be starting my pct Monday Oct 9 and will keep a log on how I'm feeling and blood work results later into the pct.
 
DavyDogg said:
I did 2 cycles with pct's before this past January when I started trt. I am 41 my diet and training were on track for most of that time but the past few weeks cause of personal issues I am not training nearly as much as I was so that is part of my decision to come off and do a full pct.
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@DavyDogg so you're pretty much 9 months on a cycle again this will be a hard PCT and keeping a log would help us get you thru a full pct
we had a guy log on EF who did 6months pct so you'll be like him too
 
DavyDogg said:
January of this year I started self prescribed TRT at 200mg a week, late February I did a 12 week blast of 400mg and 60mg Tbol for first 6 weeks then back to 200mg a week. In May I got blood work done and my estrogen was high, around 260 I think. A few weeks ago I felt a hard lump above my right nipple, was worried it was gyno so dropped test to 100mg a week and started 12.5mg of Aromasin eod while waiting to get blood work again. After 6 doses of Aromaisn my blood worked showed my estrogen was at 66 pmol/L so no gyno. Since then the lump has become much smaller and not painful at all. I am still currently on 100mg test a week but then a few days ago out of nowhere I stopped getting erections, not even waking up with one. I now want to come off TRT, doing another week of 100mg then PCT.
PCT will be ..

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20/20/20
GW 12 weeks
N2Generate 4 weeks
ZMA 8 weeks
Omega 3 fish oil
Click to expand...
@DavyDogg I gave you advice above but what i want from you is a log so do we all
trt recovery log will help us help you bro

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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So you probably started to high (for you) at 200mg/week and then dropped straight down to 100mg/week and you expect to instantly feel good. Man this takes time, let your hormones stabilize first. Not to mention your protocol change is too drastic
 
DavyDogg said:
ya I starting to think just going back to 200mg test a week would be a better option
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yes I think so...then run 6.25mg eod of aromasin
 
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