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College football...."We Believe..."

The Dude

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This is from CollegeFootballNews.com. I personally think it's an outstanding take on college football. Less than two months and counting....


We Believe...

...the college football season should NOT start before September 1.

...there's no group of eggheads more hypocritical and more full of more hooey than the NCAA and the Knight Foundation Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. From the president emeritus of Notre Dame and commission co-chairman Rev. Theodore Hesburgh referring to college sports, "We're not in the entertainment business, nor are we a minor league for professional sports." This is coming from someone from NOTRE DAME (even though Hersburgh was before the selling out and has always been over-the-top pro-academics.) You know, the school that is college football for NBC (the Notre Dame Broadcasting Network) and has been a minor league team for the NFL for years. You know what, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. ND graduates players and is much, much more than just a football school, so why shouldn't they make as much money as possible? An who is the NCAA to tell individual institutions how to run their show? The commission wants to forbid schools from playing in the post-season if they didn't graduate at least half the players who play in that sport, which is an extremely convenient stance to take for someone who represents Notre Dame.

...(cont.) that graduation rates should have absolutely nothing to do with college athletics and college football. Let it be a major like other non-academic pursuits like art, dance or music and let's cut the pretense that college football is anything but a cash cow for the rest of the athletic department and a great PR front for the university. Academics are important, but graduation rates and academic restrictions should be each school's cross to bear. If a school wants to compromise their academic integrity for football, let them. That just makes the Notre Dames, Northwesterns, Stanfords and Michigans look that much better.

...(cont.) the NCAA in it's current form will be obsolete within the next 20 years.

...Friday night college football is just fine for some schools, but not for the the "elite" schools. Let the Mountain West, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt schools get some more publicity and air time. SEC, Big XII and Big Ten schools should stick to Saturday afternoons.

...there aren't too many bowl games. If you don't like them, don't watch. No one's putting a gun to your head.

...if you put a 6'8" basketball player with a 35+" vertical at wide receiver, you'd be unstoppable inside the 10-yard line if you isolated him on one side and threw up a jump ball. Our ideal basketball/receiver? A in-his-prime Dominique Wilkins.

...as time goes on, the college football world will realize how amazing Oklahoma's national title run was last season.

...it was the Sooner defense and not the offense that won them the national title. Josh Heupel was very, very good, but he didn't win them the title.

...there's a new group of superstar Butch Davis-like coaches about to emerge in college football. Dirk Koetter of Arizona State, Walt Harris of Pittsburgh, Mark Richt of Georgia, Gary Pinkel of Missouri, Ralph Friedgen of Maryland, Jim Tressel of Ohio State and Rich Rodruigez of West Virginia were just a few of the new outstanding hires. We consider Bob Stoops, Rick Neuheisel, George O'Leary and Bob Pruett stars already.

...in the next ten years you'll see a new Division-I class with 80 or so teams.

...college football needs power teams to be strong for tradition, but relatively new blood in the mix (like Virginia Tech and Oregon State) to keep the sport rolling.

...within 20 years, you'll see a massive class action suit by college football players against the NCAA for lost wages. The players will be right.

...the five best uniforms in college football are (in no particular order): USC, Auburn, Washington, Notre Dame and UCLA.

...college football players should be allowed to have agents and do endorsement deals while in college.

...the worst uniforms in college football are (in no particular order): Oregon (they look like space age pea pods), Miami, Fl (they look like an XFL team), Oklahoma State (ditch the orange pants with the orange jerseys), Wyoming (the brown and yellow just don't look attractive) and Washington State (we don't dig the all red with the stripe down the side.)

...the college football world doesn't give enough credit to the smaller schools and talent. The only people that do are NFL scouts.

...we're still against a playoff system unless they come up with some sort of Final Four format. Taking the BCS top four teams wouldn't be too much of a hindrance. Last year, Oklahoma vs. Washington and Florida State vs. Miami would've played in bowl games, then the BCS final would be a College Football Super Bowl. In any event, keep the bowls.

...the BCS is actually a pretty good idea, but the powers-that-be have screwed it up. The criteria needs to be more easily definable. Miami fans never really understood the whole strength of schedule factor last year.

...college football players should be able to leave school at any time for the NFL.

...it'd be cool to have more bowls in cold weather. How about Buffalo or Green Bay?

...Chris Weinke was a better college football player than he'll ever get credit for.

...the SEC is great, but it's not the be-all-end-all conference SEC fans would have you believe. The Big XII, Big Ten and Pac 10 are just as storied and have always had just as much talent.

...Classic Sports Network should never give the final score BEFORE the game starts (that goes for all sports.)

...that no conference championship games should be rematches of regular season games. This goes for bowl games too.

...it's a down year in overall college football talent. Even so, college football is inherently set up so it'll never be as dead as college basketball is now.

...the Rose Bowl must be Big Ten vs. Pac 10. Hold the national title somewhere else.

...this will be one of the most fun and competitive college football seasons in recent history and we can't wait for it to start. Then we'll all be confused by the BCS.
 
...Chris Weinke was a better college football player than he'll ever get credit for.

Amen to that. Can't wait to see what he will do with the Panthers this year.
 
You make some interesting points. I don't agree with many of them, but at least you offer something to back them up.

I'm curious as to your background? Are you in college? Are you a college football player? Just wondering.

The Dude said:


...there's no group of eggheads more hypocritical and more full of more hooey than the NCAA and the Knight Foundation Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. From the president emeritus of Notre Dame and commission co-chairman Rev. Theodore Hesburgh referring to college sports, "We're not in the entertainment business, nor are we a minor league for professional sports." This is coming from someone from NOTRE DAME (even though Hersburgh was before the selling out and has always been over-the-top pro-academics.) You know, the school that is college football for NBC (the Notre Dame Broadcasting Network) and has been a minor league team for the NFL for years. You know what, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. ND graduates players and is much, much more than just a football school, so why shouldn't they make as much money as possible? An who is the NCAA to tell individual institutions how to run their show? The commission wants to forbid schools from playing in the post-season if they didn't graduate at least half the players who play in that sport, which is an extremely convenient stance to take for someone who represents Notre Dame.


...(cont.) that graduation rates should have absolutely nothing to do with college athletics and college football. Let it be a major like other non-academic pursuits like art, dance or music and let's cut the pretense that college football is anything but a cash cow for the rest of the athletic department and a great PR front for the university. Academics are important, but graduation rates and academic restrictions should be each school's cross to bear. If a school wants to compromise their academic integrity for football, let them. That just makes the Notre Dames, Northwesterns, Stanfords and Michigans look that much better.


Father Hesburgh is correct. Notre Dame is NOT in the entertainment business. Nor are they a minor league for the NFL. Yes, Notre Dame makes more than some countries GNP in football revenue. Yes, they have sent more players too the NFL than any other university in history.

HOWEVER... Notre Dame was also the first school to graduate 100% of its players who began as freshmen four years earlier (1988, the last ND national title). Notre Dame continues to graduate over 90% of its players in 4 years or less. In fact, they shared the award for highest graduation rate this past season with one other school.

You do NOT get into Notre Dame unless you are capable of handling some of the most rigorous academic work in the country. It doesn't matter what kind of athlete you are. You have no idea how much the Notre Dame athletics department has to fight with the admissions people every year just to get the players we do. If Notre Dame WERE in the entertainment or minor league business, we would not have had the struggles we have had over recent years because we could have gotten the players with the criminal records and the SAT scores below 1000, who instead end up going to Florida State or the likes.

But, I think you would agree with this. The true question is what to do about the other schools, the ones that DONT uphold strong academic standards. I think the suggestions by the Knight Foundation are excellent. It is the Florida States and Miamis and others who are the Minor League institutions. Why should they be allowed to win a national title in COLLEGE football, when most of their players don't even graduate from COLLEGE??? It just doesn't make sense. This sport is great because of what it represents... determined youth who have the desire to succed athletically, but who also have the desire to educate themselves. I played college football; I don't think I should have been paid. "Payment" for a scholarship athlete is the opportunity to be educated and upwardly mobile for FREE. That is enough of a reward. This is AMATEUR athletics. If athletes want to make money, then lets create and ACTUAL minor league for the NFL. Those athletes who don't want to bother with schooling can go from high school to the minor leagues where they will be immediately paid. But they WILL NOT AND SHOULD NOT be a part of the National College Football Championship.

And yes, Notre Dame DOES have the best uniforms in the country. :)
 
Some of your point contradict each other.

For example:

...college football players should be able to leave school at any time for the NFL.

and then:

....Even so, college football is inherently set up so it'll never be as dead as college basketball is now


The reason college football won't become like college basketball is in large part because football players are NOT allowed to leave whenever they want. College basketball suffers because it best talent leaves ealy, or worse, never even shows up.


Additionally, that seems to have been written by people who have no idea what the world of a major college athlete is like.

Everyone thinks it is the best thing to be an athlete - skate by in classes, get all the girls you want, etc. There is some truth to that, but what happens when it is over?


Do you (or college football news.com) have any idea how small the number of people that goes to the pros is? Many of these other players will not graduate. Then what do they have? Nothing. No education, no degree, etc. Often they go on to lives of non-achievement, since their academic preparation ws so poor.


Schools are prostituting their athletes for bowl bids, TV coverage, etc., all of which are big money makers. Same in basketball. The overwhelming majority of these kids do not make the league, and too many do not graduate. The schools make money, the players get shit.

Paying them does not solve the problem. It will only create more.

My source: I played major college basketball and saw it happen.
 
There not MY points, they are from Collegefootballnews.com as was stated at the beginning of the post. I pretty much agree with everything in it however. I don't believe there is much contradiction in that article. The leaving for the NFL at any age and college BB being dead is definitely one though. If anyone's interested, they have another good article about the BCS and a playoff system posted on their site now. You can find it at the top of the main page to Collegefootballnews.com. After what the BCS has done to the bowls and New Year's Day football, I couldn't agree with their assesment more.
 
Well, in my years there the highest ranking we finished with was #16. My senior year we were 5-7 and didn't even finish on the map. How exactly is that overrated?
 
c'mon fellas, like an OHIO STATE fan could type all that out? please!!!

GO BLUE!!!:D
 
The bowl system is corrupt and holds college football back.

Until they get rid of it, team like Nebraska, Florida State, and Miami will have a huge advantage -- play only one or two tough games a year and roll through a weak conference.

And because of the importance of the rankings, teams have it in their best interest to play patsy schedules. This is not in the fans interest. We want the tough matchups, not some Troy State or Middle Tennesse Valley.

But don't hold your breath over a playoff system. A lot of $$ is at stake - bowls generate a lot of money - and some institutions like the way they have it already, fans be damned.
 
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