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liftsiron
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In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
Mini Viper
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I second liftsiron, makes perfect sense. All other bros had said the same things.
onedieselboy
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liftsiron...
i did my two weeks of clen, now i am on week 3 of eca, at end of week do u think i should jump back on the clen for 30 days?....i was loving the results from the clen(hubei double strength).
ps. i wish i read your post last week!!!
i did my two weeks of clen, now i am on week 3 of eca, at end of week do u think i should jump back on the clen for 30 days?....i was loving the results from the clen(hubei double strength).
ps. i wish i read your post last week!!!
liftsiron said:In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
when i decide to use clen I do it this way
geoboy
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liftsiron said:In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
I'm back from the BLACKOUT. What did people do before electricity anyways?
1) So Lift, basically 1 week on ending at say 80 mg day, 1 week off, then week 3 & 4 at 80 mg?
2) is there any crash at end?
3) any herbs or aminos to keep Thyroid from slowing down? I remember reading a post about this but can't find it (tyrosine? taurine?)
4) how does clen treat John Thomas? ECA makes it difficult to get a rock-solid erection. This is mitigated by combining wit yohimbe (which also helps fat burning obviously). Based on my quick read, it seems that Clen is in same family as Yohimbe so should be either neutral or beneficial in this regard. any opinions?
p.s. The most sobering creepy thing I ever experienced was driving tru midtown and downtown manhattan at 3AM during blackout. The city that never sleeps with a lit-up deli on every corner, overhead halogens every few feet, neon lights etc, just BLACK. no people. no light. no noise. Just Nothing. scary shit.
MrRTTB
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I've tried Clen a million times and found what works best for me:
10days Clen
1+2+3: 50mcg(or 40 if you have the 20mcg) + caffein 200mg before cardio
3+4+5+6: 75mcg + 200mg caffein before cardio
8+9+10: 100mcg + 200mg caffein before cardio
day 11: OFF, Caffein 3 times per day 250-300mg per time
Day 12-21: Ephedra(for fatloss this shit rules as it is active in your body bmuch longer than pure ephedrine)
I take 400mg Ephedra 3 times per day and never after 3 in the afternoon + Yohimbine HCL 6mg per time, caffin 250-300mg each time. Problems with sleep is solved with HIIT in the evening + big protein meal before bed + 5-htp
22-31: Clen as above, start at the same dose.
I've never tired green tea but will next time. I like using Creatine with Cen as I donot get as many "sides" with is. Less water in my body and I feel very ill when on Clen.
My cuttingstack for September 20 looks like this:
Clen and EC as above, never use Aspirtin because I do not feel I need it.
Green tea with the yohimbine at 5 in the morning, then go to sleep again and get up at 7 for caffein and Clen, then wait until 8.30 for 40-50 minutes moirningwalk oin an empty stomach.
Calories same as when I'm bulking for the first 2 weeks, then lower to BMR and to to add some muscle, get more toned and sheed some fat away. I change something every week on the same day, I add 10minutes cardio per week and day(4 days morningcardio) then go back to 3 days carido and add in 1 day of HIIT. Then next week 3 days morningwalks and 2 days HIIT, then on this for 2 weeks and seem how it goes. Plan wil be to sheed fat away while adding a little mass. Proein wil be at 350g, fat from omega3, CLA, omega6, 9 and a little "bad" fats as they are needed.
10days Clen
1+2+3: 50mcg(or 40 if you have the 20mcg) + caffein 200mg before cardio
3+4+5+6: 75mcg + 200mg caffein before cardio
8+9+10: 100mcg + 200mg caffein before cardio
day 11: OFF, Caffein 3 times per day 250-300mg per time
Day 12-21: Ephedra(for fatloss this shit rules as it is active in your body bmuch longer than pure ephedrine)
I take 400mg Ephedra 3 times per day and never after 3 in the afternoon + Yohimbine HCL 6mg per time, caffin 250-300mg each time. Problems with sleep is solved with HIIT in the evening + big protein meal before bed + 5-htp
22-31: Clen as above, start at the same dose.
I've never tired green tea but will next time. I like using Creatine with Cen as I donot get as many "sides" with is. Less water in my body and I feel very ill when on Clen.
My cuttingstack for September 20 looks like this:
Clen and EC as above, never use Aspirtin because I do not feel I need it.
Green tea with the yohimbine at 5 in the morning, then go to sleep again and get up at 7 for caffein and Clen, then wait until 8.30 for 40-50 minutes moirningwalk oin an empty stomach.
Calories same as when I'm bulking for the first 2 weeks, then lower to BMR and to to add some muscle, get more toned and sheed some fat away. I change something every week on the same day, I add 10minutes cardio per week and day(4 days morningcardio) then go back to 3 days carido and add in 1 day of HIIT. Then next week 3 days morningwalks and 2 days HIIT, then on this for 2 weeks and seem how it goes. Plan wil be to sheed fat away while adding a little mass. Proein wil be at 350g, fat from omega3, CLA, omega6, 9 and a little "bad" fats as they are needed.
liftsiron
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onedieselboy liftsiron...
i did my two weeks of clen, now i am on week 3 of eca, at end of week do u think i should jump back on the clen for 30 days?....i was loving the results from the clen(hubei double strength).
ps. i wish i read your post last week!!!
I think that I would stick with 2 weeks on and one week off.
i did my two weeks of clen, now i am on week 3 of eca, at end of week do u think i should jump back on the clen for 30 days?....i was loving the results from the clen(hubei double strength).
ps. i wish i read your post last week!!!
I think that I would stick with 2 weeks on and one week off.
liftsiron
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I'm back from the BLACKOUT. What did people do before electricity anyways?
1) So Lift, basically 1 week on ending at say 80 mg day, 1 week off, then week 3 & 4 at 80 mg?
2) is there any crash at end?
3) any herbs or aminos to keep Thyroid from slowing down? I remember reading a post about this but can't find it (tyrosine? taurine?)
4) how does clen treat John Thomas? ECA makes it difficult to get a rock-solid erection. This is mitigated by combining wit yohimbe (which also helps fat burning obviously). Based on my quick read, it seems that Clen is in same family as Yohimbe so should be either neutral or beneficial in this regard. any opinions?
p.s. The most sobering creepy thing I ever experienced was driving tru midtown and downtown manhattan at 3AM during blackout. The city that never sleeps with a lit-up deli on every corner, overhead halogens every few feet, neon lights etc, just BLACK. no people. no light. no noise. Just Nothing. scary shit.
tiger88 quote:
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Originally posted by liftsiron
In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
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I start at 80mcg ed and in one week hit 160mcg remember clen is measured in micro grams not milligrams. After the initial 30 day phase I use 160mcg for two weeks on then take a week off from clen then back on for two. I repeat this as often as needed.
Both l-tyrosine and guggul lipid extract are reputed to keep thyroid levels up. Clen does not hinder boners as bad as eca but you can get a little less penile pump.
1) So Lift, basically 1 week on ending at say 80 mg day, 1 week off, then week 3 & 4 at 80 mg?
2) is there any crash at end?
3) any herbs or aminos to keep Thyroid from slowing down? I remember reading a post about this but can't find it (tyrosine? taurine?)
4) how does clen treat John Thomas? ECA makes it difficult to get a rock-solid erection. This is mitigated by combining wit yohimbe (which also helps fat burning obviously). Based on my quick read, it seems that Clen is in same family as Yohimbe so should be either neutral or beneficial in this regard. any opinions?
p.s. The most sobering creepy thing I ever experienced was driving tru midtown and downtown manhattan at 3AM during blackout. The city that never sleeps with a lit-up deli on every corner, overhead halogens every few feet, neon lights etc, just BLACK. no people. no light. no noise. Just Nothing. scary shit.
tiger88 quote:
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Originally posted by liftsiron
In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
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I start at 80mcg ed and in one week hit 160mcg remember clen is measured in micro grams not milligrams. After the initial 30 day phase I use 160mcg for two weeks on then take a week off from clen then back on for two. I repeat this as often as needed.
Both l-tyrosine and guggul lipid extract are reputed to keep thyroid levels up. Clen does not hinder boners as bad as eca but you can get a little less penile pump.
Jumpman3451
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2 wks on 2 wks off. I think they say 2 days on and 3rd day off b/c I believe it's life is around 3 days. So by taking that 3rd day your actually got a lot in the system at one point. This could make no affect on some, but could make a big diff. to others.
Jumpman
Jumpman
Fukkenshredded
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Clen works best utilized straight through with escalating doses. It will work for a few weeks, then all you will notice is peeling skin on your hands and irritability.
The 2 on/2 off approach is grounded in flawed logic.
With clen, you just bang straight through until it stops working, then taper down and try to minimize the crash (you will have one).
The 2 on/2 off approach is grounded in flawed logic.
With clen, you just bang straight through until it stops working, then taper down and try to minimize the crash (you will have one).
Fukkenshredded
New member
Spread your doses throughout the day. Start with three tablets the first day, taken in three hour intervals. If you feel fine, close the distance between and take four tabs, two hours apart, and so on, until you get to six tabs. Now, my dosages of clen would go substantially above this, but the crashes made it not worth it at all. Try to stay at less than eight tabs/day, regardless, and watch out for those cramps! They get serious at about 100mics daily.
When it stops working, taper off of it over two weeks or so...this can help a little with the crash.
And son't expect the results to stick with you...clen works, but only while it works. After that, you will quickly revert to your initial appearance.
When it stops working, taper off of it over two weeks or so...this can help a little with the crash.
And son't expect the results to stick with you...clen works, but only while it works. After that, you will quickly revert to your initial appearance.
JG1
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So should l-tyrosine be taken with clen? If so how much and how many times/day?
I'm about to start a clen cycle and will run it for 30 days straight.
Also, do the doses have to be taken 3 times/day, or can I take half prior to AM cardio (8am), and the other half about 4pm or so? I'm using LiquidClen from a research site the twice/day dosing is a little more convienent.
I'm about to start a clen cycle and will run it for 30 days straight.
Also, do the doses have to be taken 3 times/day, or can I take half prior to AM cardio (8am), and the other half about 4pm or so? I'm using LiquidClen from a research site the twice/day dosing is a little more convienent.
tapoutm
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liftsiron said:In the past I've used a lot of clen so have people that I know. Through trail and error and actual research I believe that most people do not use clen to its full potential.
When you start your clen cycle go four weeks straight building up to your desired dose in the first week. Take one week off, then two weeks on for the remainder of the cycle. This method has worked better than any other that my bros and I have tried especially for contest prep. In fact I have gotten completely ripped at times with just continous 30 use. If you have been off clen for awhile I believe that it takes close to 30 days to saturate the receptors. It only takes bata two receptors between three and six days to clear of clen so in a week your good for another two on. Take my word you will see continous fat burning throughout the first 30 day peroid.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
I am going to try your method next time I get on the clen. Thanks Bro...........TAPOUTM
Well I'm running LR's clen for " post cycle crash" and it seems to be working AWESOME....I'm keeping calories around 4800-5100 cals a day, cardio 3 times per week...Diet is very clean....I actually seem like I'm getting stronger off my cycle than I was when I was on, this unusual ? I'm also running this
.5 mgs of arimidex(astra) per day
clomid-standard
Proviron-50mgs per day
This seems to be working great...
.5 mgs of arimidex(astra) per day
clomid-standard
Proviron-50mgs per day
This seems to be working great...
liftsiron
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Originally posted by JG1
So should l-tyrosine be taken with clen? If so how much and how many times/day?
I'm about to start a clen cycle and will run it for 30 days straight.
Also, do the doses have to be taken 3 times/day, or can I take half prior to AM cardio (8am), and the other half about 4pm or so? I'm using LiquidClen from a research site the twice/day dosing is a little more convienent.
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Split doses is the best way to use it since clen is active for 12 hours, I take it twice per day, once early morning and once early afternoon. I've tried l-tyrosine with clen at 1500-2000mg a day, I really didn't notice any difference. I did notice a difference with pyruvate at 6 to 8 grams a day just prior to meals. It also seems that I'm not as tired when I use pyruvate which makes since because rapid fat loss decreases production of atp in the liver to slow the fat loss. Pyruvate increases atp production which increases fat loss.
I think that perhaps l-tyrosine and guggul liped would be helpful post cycle to help normalize the thyroid. Do use high dose of niacin with clen. Niacin and clen can cause blood pressure fluctions that have caused people to faint.
So should l-tyrosine be taken with clen? If so how much and how many times/day?
I'm about to start a clen cycle and will run it for 30 days straight.
Also, do the doses have to be taken 3 times/day, or can I take half prior to AM cardio (8am), and the other half about 4pm or so? I'm using LiquidClen from a research site the twice/day dosing is a little more convienent.
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Split doses is the best way to use it since clen is active for 12 hours, I take it twice per day, once early morning and once early afternoon. I've tried l-tyrosine with clen at 1500-2000mg a day, I really didn't notice any difference. I did notice a difference with pyruvate at 6 to 8 grams a day just prior to meals. It also seems that I'm not as tired when I use pyruvate which makes since because rapid fat loss decreases production of atp in the liver to slow the fat loss. Pyruvate increases atp production which increases fat loss.
I think that perhaps l-tyrosine and guggul liped would be helpful post cycle to help normalize the thyroid. Do use high dose of niacin with clen. Niacin and clen can cause blood pressure fluctions that have caused people to faint.
JG1
New member
liftsiron,
Starting my clen today. Going to start at 80mcg/day in two divided 40mscg doses, and work up to 160mcg/day for the remainder of the month on clen. If I feel fine at 80mcg, how slow should I taper my dose upwards...can I jump from 80mcg day 1, 120mcg day 2, 160mcg day 3-30....something like that? Or should I taper up for a full week?
Starting my clen today. Going to start at 80mcg/day in two divided 40mscg doses, and work up to 160mcg/day for the remainder of the month on clen. If I feel fine at 80mcg, how slow should I taper my dose upwards...can I jump from 80mcg day 1, 120mcg day 2, 160mcg day 3-30....something like that? Or should I taper up for a full week?
Be careful with clen guys, it's very strong and can cause many side effects if abused. In Canada we have Ventipulmin clen, it's a pharm grade syrup designed for horses. equivalent to 440 tabs for 39.95 CDN if you have the right connection and usually 175 if bought on the black market...my point is it's very cheap so people abuse it, some guys using 400mcg ED, they become virtually retarded overnight, stuttering and walking around like meth heads.
liftsiron
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JG1 the fat loss from clen remains after use provided you moderate diet. Clen gets you so ripped that I feel it would be impossible to stay that ripped to long afterward. I will look into Taurine, I really don't know why, but I have heard to use it as well, perhaps it helps to prevent cramping, I believe that I heard that clen depletes taurine stores, but I'm not sure. Taper clen upwards as fast as you can tolerate. Perhaps with the clen that you are using 120mcg will be all that you require. You should see drastic body comp changes in as little as two weeks.
JG1
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liftsiron said:
Thanks bro,
I think the tuarine is for t-3/t-4 production or conversion.
I've been taking 40mcg in two divided doses, did that for 3 days, started on 50mcg twice/day as of this morning...I know 80mcg/day was kicking my ass so I hope 100 isn't too much worse. The main thing is the headaches. I've been taking P7 (pregnenelone/7-DHEA) from the AF store around noon so thats been keeping the anxiety at bay.
i personally have never used clen although i plan to real soon. i have talked to an experienced aas user and he says his favorite protocol is alternating between clen and an eca each day. so clen monday, eca tuesday, clen wednesday, eca thursday etc. what do you guys think of that protocol?
liftsiron
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Here you go JG1: I got this info from another post.
Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.
Also I would suggest extra magesium with clen to lessen cramping.
Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.
Also I would suggest extra magesium with clen to lessen cramping.
geoboy
New member
liftsiron said:Here you go JG1: I got this info from another post.
Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.
Also I would suggest extra magesium with clen to lessen cramping.
thanks lift. taurine it is.
