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slobberknocker
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I was just prescribed some Cipro (Ciprofloxacin) for 2 ingrown toenails I had removed today (not fun). Will this cause any problems with my current cycle? I'm on test/fina/halo. Thanks.
40butpumpin
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Dr. M said:
is that right?
cipro is in a class of antibiotics called the quinolones. quinolones are in fact VERY dangerous and have a VERY high incidence of major side effects. these side effects range from spontaneous tendon ruptures to neurotoxicity to heart rythm disturbances. i know this because i almost died from an allergic reaction (ADR) to Levaquin about 19 months ago. it took me the better part of a year to get myself back to 100%. and that's not bullshit.
so i didn't mean to get on your case, Dr. M, but the truth is that something as seemingly benign as caffeine can cause at least some of the quinolones to become highly toxic and cause even life threatening reactions when taken together.
slobberknocker i'm not trying to scare you, however, i would highly suggest you take a hard look at the quinolones as your choice for an anti-biotic bro. in fact there's groups and web sites dedicated to the people that have had adr's from med's in the quinolone family.
i hope that helps you man.
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40butpumpin
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gazpacho said:
yes, all quinolones are known to deteriote the structure of tendons right at the cellular level (i've read med. journals about this very thing and seen microscopic photographs), thus resulting in spontaneus tendon ruptures. and these, by the way, are not the kind of tendon ruptures that are easilly repaired either...as it's not a simple tair of otherwise healthy tissue. the drug actually changes the tissue right at the cellular level.
so, even in an indirect way, there's a very good reason to not use this med while on a cycle.
Singleton
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Another antibiotic-happy doctor. Wait, that was redundant.
Cipro will weaken your tendons. It will deplete all your b-vitamins. You will lose your appetite and you will be tired all the time.
Cipro made me ill. I went from doing sub-maximal, high rep deads at 225x15 to barely able to deadlift 185. I was sick all day. I was drinking 3 gallons of water a day and I had all the side effects I mentioned earlier.
Besides that, Cipro is the most expensive antibiotic on the market. Don't tell me it's free; nothing is.
And now I'm reading this:
I consumed a lot of caffeine while taking Cipro to combat the fatigue. Probably just made it worse.
Cipro will weaken your tendons. It will deplete all your b-vitamins. You will lose your appetite and you will be tired all the time.
Cipro made me ill. I went from doing sub-maximal, high rep deads at 225x15 to barely able to deadlift 185. I was sick all day. I was drinking 3 gallons of water a day and I had all the side effects I mentioned earlier.
Besides that, Cipro is the most expensive antibiotic on the market. Don't tell me it's free; nothing is.
And now I'm reading this:
I consumed a lot of caffeine while taking Cipro to combat the fatigue. Probably just made it worse.
40butpumpin
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well, the sad fact is that some types of infections (prostate and sinus infections are some of the worst) just do not respond to other types of anti-biotics. i'm not justifying their use at all, don't get me wrong, but as far as a doctor's concerned, he thinks he's doing all he can for you wrt to quinolones for those types of infections.
there's natural stuff out there, however, one called Active Hexose Correlate Compound (AHCC) and MGN-3, both derived from a particular type of mushroom that will greatly help your body fight infections as opposed to getting a med to fight it for you. the problem with the latter in the case of a quinolone is that it doesn't stop the detruction at the infection. but imo, anti-biotics are WAY over done anyway.
these other products are well worth looking into.
there's natural stuff out there, however, one called Active Hexose Correlate Compound (AHCC) and MGN-3, both derived from a particular type of mushroom that will greatly help your body fight infections as opposed to getting a med to fight it for you. the problem with the latter in the case of a quinolone is that it doesn't stop the detruction at the infection. but imo, anti-biotics are WAY over done anyway.
these other products are well worth looking into.
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slobberknocker
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There were other choices, but I'm allergic to penicilin so I guess that knocked out a lot of options.
I'm only supposed to be on the Cipro for 10 days. You guys think I should try to switch to another antibiotic?
I'm only supposed to be on the Cipro for 10 days. You guys think I should try to switch to another antibiotic?
40butpumpin
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slobberknocker said:
after day 6 i had a resting heart rate of 140 (as well as other problems that will go unsaid) that lasted for months. it's a crap-shoot and a decision that only you can make as far as i'm concerned. all the best with it.
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slobberknocker
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This is scary stuff. I was actually on Levaquin a couple weeks ago for cellulitis in my leg. I even asked the Doc. then about any sides (she knew I was on AAS) and she didn't mention any of this stuff. Didn't have any problems with the Levaquin.
I don't know if I should chance it and go with it or what.
I don't know if I should chance it and go with it or what.
40butpumpin
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slobberknocker said:
the incidence is low on an alsolute scale but high on a relative one. do some research of your own bro. start with "levaquin tendon caffeine" on Google.
i wouldn't take any quinolone if it was the last resort for me.
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DBCooper
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Cipro and steroids, wasn't that what they were giving the anthrax people?
40butpumpin
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DBCooper said:
the cipro yes, albeit very selectively. do you also remember the debate as to why it wasn't made more readilly available? the reason was the high incidence and severity of side effects associated with cipro.
