Christians - what is your opinion about homosexuality?

[cindylou]

I'm kidding Annie.

Personally, I really have a hard time giving a shit what other people do and don't do. It's none of my business and I don't care. I'd have to really put in the effort to care...so I dunno...no opinion here.

 

[AFeedz]

First of all, the passage is completely silent on man-on-woman sex, lustful or not. Using your logic, even lustful interactions of men toward women must be acceptable. Except elsewhere in the Bible does it say lustful sex between men and women is wrong, but elsewhere in the Bible it does not say relationships between two men or two women is wrong.

Furthermore, if the goal of the passage was to only show that idolatry leads to sinful lust, then bringing-up the issue of men having sex with men would be a complete waste of text and time in the first place. Because the writers of the Bible were always succint and to the point, right?

The Christan religion evolved (but I agree is not bound) from Jewish law. And Jewish law was unmistakable -- if you committed homosexuality, you were to be bludgeoned to death with rocks. If Christians still followed Jewish law, Christians would be kosher, and would think having sex with a woman while on her period was as wrong as homosexuality. Jesus lightened-up on the stoning issue with "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" story, but Christianity was still definitely anti-homosexual. This passage is clearly showing how idolatry can lead to even more distasteful behaviors, including homosexuality. Yes, it is showing how idolatry can lead to distasteful behaviors, like lust-motivated sex. You'll notice it doesn't say that the distasteful behaviors were men loving other men or women loving other women. It said the behavior was those people having sex while full of lust, like I said.

With the liberties you've taken, I could easily argue that the bible is supportive of divorce, murder, abortion or any other cause I'd like to justify. No you couldn't easily argue all those things. I'm not cracking on your flavor of Christianity, but you're opening the door wide-open for it to basically be whatever the specific believer wants. If not inferring further meaning in to words than what is there, then sure, I'm opening the door. rolleyes

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[cindylou]

Let's modify our test-tube argument to accommodate your "lustful" consideration:

"Joe was speeding. And because Joe was speeding, he lost control of his car, hit a school and enthusiastically killed 30 children."

So you'd be arguing that because Joe was doing something wrong (speeding), he was given-over to enthusiastically killing 30 children. The killing 30 children part is acceptable, but the mistake is in doing it enthusiastically.

are you comparing killing 30 children to homosexuality?

I would agree that in that senario that the sin would be speeding and the enthusiastic heart condition. The children dying would be the consequence but not the sin.

 

[misguided03]

Women ate the apple so god decided to punish us. Women got painful childbirth and the menstral cycle. Men we got ... Well women. God doesn't hate gay people, he's just mad they found a loophole in the system.. They were like We're just going to bang each other. It's better than all that..neh neh neh neh neh...listen, listen, listen.
How would you like it if u came up with a great punishment and they found a way around it ?

Lol no but seriously bible does say it's a sin but all sin is forgiven through Jesus if you believe with your heart and confess with your mouth. So I don't really care what they do.

 

[cindylou]

Women ate the apple so god decided to punish us. Women got painful childbirth and the menstral cycle. Men we got ... Well women. God doesn't hate gay people, he's just mad they found a loophole in the system.. They were like We're just going to bang each other. It's better than all that..neh neh neh neh neh...listen, listen, listen.
How would you like it if u came up with a great punishment and they found a way around it ?

Lol no but seriously bible does say it's a sin but all sin is forgiven through Jesus if you believe with your heart and confess with your mouth. So I don't really care what they do.

stfu. the curse of Adam was to work his ass off his whole life, not the wife that God gave him. Adam "ate" the "apple" because he loved Eve, his wife who was deceived and dying.

 

[Smurfy]

It's interesting to me to see Christians arguing with their fellow Christians over the meaning behind the passages in their book.

 

[AFeedz]

Let's modify our test-tube argument to accommodate your "lustful" consideration:

"Joe was speeding. And because Joe was speeding, he lost control of his car, hit a school and enthusiastically killed 30 children."

So you'd be arguing that because Joe was doing something wrong (speeding), he was given-over to enthusiastically killing 30 children. The killing 30 children part is acceptable, but the mistake is in doing it enthusiastically.

Your example is far fetched and you know it. lol @ starting this with saying I'm stretching, then coming up with this example.

So what you are saying is, when the Bible says something is wrong, it could only possibly mean the action is wrong, not the intent behind it. Funny. I believe all seven of the seven deadly sins are really involving someone's motive for an action, not actions themselves. You'll notice the sins are anger, lust, greed, etc. They are not murder, homosexual sex, etc.

So it's funny you're trying to argue that motive itself could not possibly be the sin. Are you calling God a liar?!!!!!!!!!

Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.



^ Sounds to me like God has no problem saying intent is just as, if not more a sin than actions.

 

[misguided03]

stfu. the curse of Adam was to work his ass off his whole life, not the wife that God gave him. Adam "ate" the "apple" because he loved Eve, his wife who was deceived and dying.

Lol I know it's just a tosh.0 bit he does that is pretty funny.

 

[Redrocker13]

lol I never said the "depraved" and "indecent" behaviors weren't a sin. Where did I say such a thing?

What I said was, the reason those acts were a sin was because they were done out of lust, not because the act itself is a sin. It's the exact same thing as when the Bible says lustful, heterosexual sex is a sin. The heterosexual sex itself is not a sin, the motive behind the sex is. The passage does not address non-lustful homosexual relations, so you can't apply it to such. THAT is a stretch. So this passage really says nothing about gay relationships at all, only the lustful sex is bad, as has been said many times already in the Bible by that point.

Sorry Feedz, I don't want you to feel dumped on but i can't help but respond.

For one, this should be a matter of common sense. In Genesis 2 God puts Adam to sleep and creates Eve from his own body and brings her to Adam. Jesus confirms the divine institution of man and woman in marriage when questioned by the pharisees about divorce. And the remainder of scripture is clear in that sexual conduct outside of that boundarie is sin. Period. I have read your explanation in other's writings and entertaining as it is, that's an awfully long end run to try and get God's approval of their own desire. Same gender sex is no more or less wrong than hetero sex outside of marriage. Its the way God set it up from the beginning.

Next, your statement above missed the mark badly. Paul's comments are by way of trying to give great emphasis to just how far mankind could fall to depravity in their sin. So far did they fall that they fell into "vile affections"...Paul admonishes us to flee fornications. In 1Cor 7:2 he emphasizes God's standard again, 'let each man have his own wife and each woman her own husband.' Again, the teaching of scripture is clear. God ordained sex between a man and a woman inside the bounds of marriage. The clear message of the bible is seen from start to finish.

 

[cindylou]

Lol I know it's just a tosh.0 bit he does that is pretty funny.

Really? I guess I haven't heard it or I just don't remember. I was getting ready to go back and add a smiley to my stfu