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Big Rick Rock
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Some of you guys from the C&C board seem to be too shy to ask questions on the Anabolic Board...
Ask all your AAS questions here...
Ask all your AAS questions here...
Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" thread
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string_bean00
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You think nolva is needed during a 500mg/week test cycle? PCT of course, but you think it's necessary during?
It seems like a low enough dose where it wouldn't be necessary.
It seems like a low enough dose where it wouldn't be necessary.
strongsmartsexy
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Make this a sticky for a few days!
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Gambino
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Does fina have long term sides?
Is it true that Finaplix is no longer manufactured?
Is it true that Finaplix is no longer manufactured?
tuc biscuit
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Y_Lifter said:
a low dose testosterone and dbol cycle seems to be a decent beginners cycle
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string_bean00 said:
Ok... The amount of Test your body will convert to Strogen and the grouping of Estrogen receptors in your body will vary from person to person... Some guys do just fine with only 500mg of test per week, some guys get moonfaced, others might get sore nipps on the second week... It is all different for each guy.
If you don't know what effect Test at this dosage will have on you yet, try to start off you cycle without taking the Nolva BUT... Have the Nolva On Hand at the first sign of sore nipples start taking it, I would do about 20mg ed if I feel the onset of gyno... do not panic like a newbie and stop your cycle... take the nolva and ride it out.
If you get moonfaced(water retention) the Nolva won't really help much.. I suggest having some Armidex on hand too. If the only estro sideeffect you get is Water retention(not gyno) I would suggest starting the armidex at about .5mg (half a miligram) per day and bringing down the strogen slowly to a manageable level.... You don't want to completely eliminate water retention since it helps your gains....
Know this: Part of Test's anabolic effects come from the Test itself and a lot from its conversion to DHT and estrogen.... you want to keep these conversions to a manageable level but not completely shut them down since it will hurt your gains.
Mr. Black
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Seashell said:
No they are not ie. Anavar, Winstrol, Dbol... they can all be taken orally. I wouldn't recommend the last 2 for women though. If you want injection info visit www.spotinjections.com
jesus, rick. .5mg ed? WTF?Big Rick Rock said:
Seashell said:
anywhere there is muscle you could take a shot techincally speaking. I myself stick to the glutes, delts, and quads.
GoldenDelicious
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Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th
anything that long will certainly affect the hpta severely. post cycle gonadal supression is a fairly nasty side in itself, wodin..WODIN said:
Olsen Twins Banger
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does doing steroids make me a bad person?
ive also heard that if u do steroids you are cheating
my question is what or who am i cheating?
ive also heard that if u do steroids you are cheating
my question is what or who am i cheating?
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juicedpigtails said:
Yup... Half of a miligram( notice the "." before the 5mg) Every day... It all depends on how your body reacts, I have found half a miligram to be plenty for 500mg of test per week.
HG Pennypacker
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I've copied this thread to the Anabolic board, the Girl Talk! Board and, of course, the Time Management Board.
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Bran987 said:
When you truly feel you have reached your genetic cap, you are ready.
I think about 5-7 years of natural training is about right.
Im my case, I have been lifting since I was 13yrl-14yrl, I did my first cycle at 20yrl looking back on it now I should have waited until I 22-23.
My goals have changed and I don't train like a bodybuilder anymore, I want to go back to doing sport competitions and right now being at the lowest possible weight with the highest amount of explosive strength pound-for-pound is more important to me than just getting BIG.
I wish I could go down to 120lbs and keep my lifts and stregth the same, I would be the most devastating Thaifighter to ever set foot in Lumpee stadium.
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HG Pennypacker said:
If you are serious I will take all your Karma away...
I'm going to check now.
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Olsen Twins Banger said:
No, you were a bad person before you ever juiced.
Olsen Twins Banger said:
If you take AAS and enter competitions against other athletes that do not use AAS then you ARE cheating.
Olsen Twins Banger said:
If you comepete against other natural athletes and take the prize, you have cheated everybody even yourself.
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Gambino said:
Nobody really knows about the long term sides of AAS... It is really hard to say.
Not sure about the Finaplix, but there are some good deals on powders floating around.... Plus there must be at least a dozen outfits making their version of Tren Acetate for sale. I guess may answer would be... who cares if they are still making it or not.
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Mr. dB said:
I don't think so.... Some of the chemistry gurus on the site seem to think that AAS will live on for years and start to degrade slowly over time... I think the expt dates are there since they are required by the manufacturers country's version of the FDA.
If you have some big 50ml bottle of juice that you actually opened and never finished, you let it sit in your closet for months and now want to come back an use it again: I suggest you run it thru a Watman filter just in case(I would do this with any UG lab gear anyway)
you pay $2 for the filter and it really can't hurt to do it.
GoldenDelicious
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Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th
i know, but in my imo the supression and consequent potentially permanent disruption of your hpta and testicular tissue, as a side, is probably the most significant apart from prostate enlargement and severe hair loss.
as for using the hcg weeeeeell youd have to play that by ear, but sure. the nolva, though, post 18 week cycle is probably in teh same ballpark as 10 weeks without nolva, if you get my meaning.
not discounting your experiences or knowledge. not at all. i just ahve a different perspective as per my degree.
cheerios
WODIN said:
i know, but in my imo the supression and consequent potentially permanent disruption of your hpta and testicular tissue, as a side, is probably the most significant apart from prostate enlargement and severe hair loss.
as for using the hcg weeeeeell youd have to play that by ear, but sure. the nolva, though, post 18 week cycle is probably in teh same ballpark as 10 weeks without nolva, if you get my meaning.
not discounting your experiences or knowledge. not at all. i just ahve a different perspective as per my degree.
cheerios
bran987
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Big Rick Rock said:
In 5 years of training I gained 30 lbs of muscle keeping same waist size, but couldn't get any further. then in one year I floundered, gained 10 lbs. of fat.
since joining this board I have lost that fat in 3 months, and now am back to the lifts I was at before I gained the fat.
basically right now I can deadlift about 275 lbs. for 2 sets of 8, squat 250 for 5 sets of 5, and incline press 80 lbs. dumbbells for 5x5, and I use about 2 seconds on positive, 3 seconds on negative part of rep.
I can't seem to get any stronger no matter what I do, and if I try to up my cals and eat more clean food I just seem to gain fat.
It's frustrating.
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Bran987 said:
How do you know you are just gaining fat when you up your cal intake? are you using calipers to measure it? or are you just going by eye? are you jumping up an extra 1000 cals per day or are you gradualy bringin them up?
We all think we look like shit in the mirror never trust that. Get some fat calipers and monitor your caloric intake and caliper measurements over a few months and see if there is a relation.
HG Pennypacker
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Big Rick Rock said:
This is outrageous. What is the benefit of being platinum unless I can copy pertinent thread to the Weird, Wacky World of Joe Montana Board?
Big Rick Rock
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Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th
I think you are discounting personal reactions. I know guys that have bounced back from 8 week var cycles without any PCT meds at all(couple of dums asses at my gym that had no idea what HGC was, and thought Orals were safer than injectables).
I think one would need to have some experience with shorter cycles to know how your body will react to certain drugs, before taking the plunge to an 18 weeker.
GoldenDelicious said:
I think you are discounting personal reactions. I know guys that have bounced back from 8 week var cycles without any PCT meds at all(couple of dums asses at my gym that had no idea what HGC was, and thought Orals were safer than injectables).
I think one would need to have some experience with shorter cycles to know how your body will react to certain drugs, before taking the plunge to an 18 weeker.
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beastboy said:
For hairloss I would pick Nizoral shampoo and Monoxidil over proscar
if you are really prone to MPB, then use Nizoral shampoo and Monoxidil and a small doses of proscar(finasteride)
proscar = finasteride does have an effect on the enzyme responsable for converting Test to DHT, and as we all know DHT = hair loss... But elevated levels of DHT Do and Will help your gains(DHT is needed for other body functions like erections)... You want to keep the DHT on check, not shut it down completely... I think threating the problem locally with Nizoral shampoo and Monoxidil (add a small dose of finasteride if using heavy Test dosages) as well as other topical treatments are better since they will not hurt your gains. - I have heard of guys using Azecleic Acid(sp?) as a topical treatment too. -
If you are Really, really prone to MPB, I suggest using a very small dose of Finasteride along with the topical treatments.
FYI- Proscar/finasteride Will reduce Test convertion to DHT thus helping to reduce DHT caused hair loss... BUT it will do NOTHING to combat against hairloss from other gear like Finaplix(Trenbolone) or Anadrol.
fistfullofsteel
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Big Rick Rock said:
do steroids make your pee pee smaller, my pee pee is pretty small already?
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Some guys swear by HCG while others think it is only a temporary fix... I think the jury is still out... I think Clomid, anti-estros and some of the herbal supps are great and I would use them over HCG.
beastboy said:
Some guys swear by HCG while others think it is only a temporary fix... I think the jury is still out... I think Clomid, anti-estros and some of the herbal supps are great and I would use them over HCG.
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fistfullofsteel said:
without proper PCT meds your testicles will get much smaller and make your penis look bigger.
is there a correlation between how much AAS you use and how much ASS you get?
thanks in advance!
thanks in advance!
fistfullofsteel
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Big Rick Rock said:
brilliant
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juicedpigtails said:
huh? I don't understand the question.
Buddy_Christ
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what juicycolontail means is, if you do more steroids, will you get laid more? he's looking for a positive correlation between the useage of steroids vs. how much pussy you get.
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The Shadow
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NJRipped said:
Poor diet, intensity and genetics
Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th
I like var too. A LOT!!!
Totally understand my man. I 've done it and had minor hair loss which came back posts cycle and I was fine. I am just going from personal experience is all.GoldenDelicious said:
I like var too.
A LOT!!!
Mr. Black
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crak600 said:
Yes there is definitely a correlation of acquiring more pussy while on a healthy test cycle, it is a side effect commonly known as "Test-Goggles". However, it is important to note that this effect goes hand in hand with a distinct drop in the quality of the pussy.
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Fina Junkie
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I've read that using Novla for extended periods can increase the chances of osteoporosis(spl) in males ?
How is this possible ?
How is this possible ?
pitbullstl
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Gambino said:
No (not discovered yet)
And No
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NJRipped said:
I agree with Shadow: Genetics, workout regimen and diet play a big role,
I think the main thing is that guys just don’t get serious enough, they don’t make the necessary lifestyle changes to make continuous progress…
Aside from sticking as needle in their ass a couple of times a week, they have not made the other choices in their life needed to succeed, like making sure to get enough sleep and not missing any workouts…
Yeah, so you are doing Needsize’s 5x5 routine, and then your girlfriend gets mad at you, so you miss a week in the weight room over it… Your dog gets sick, you are out for 10 days… Your relatives invite you to spend the summer in Wichataw and you miss 2 months… You get a new job that messes up your schedule, and you are just not committed enough to your goals to go to bed earlier and wake up at 5am to get your workout in, so you quit for 3 years till you lose that job. So you allow yourself to sink into the population’s physical mediocrity for a couple of years…
Then you come back to the sport and you go to the gym for 6 months and hit a massive cycle and at the end of it all you don’t look like wish you did, so you just quit forever.
It has to be within you, you have to want it so bad that nothing can stop you, the fire has to be in yar belly beforehand, you can’t inject courage and dedication.
Big Rick Rock said:
i mean, when you juice (AAS) do you get more women (ASS)???
if so... if you already get amazing amounts of ASS does that mean that you have no need for AAS?
also if you take lots of AAS and dont get lots of ASS does that mean your AAS is fake?
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juicedpigtails said:
You are already an ASS, so taking AAS, eating enough protein and working out regularly will make you an even BIGGER ASS.
Big Rick Rock said:
that doesnt answer the question, rob. but let me understand this better. so if i kick your ass i will get more AAS?
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juicedpigtails said:that doesnt answer the question, rob. but let me understand this better. so if i kick your ass i will get more AAS?
No, you will need a hell of a lot of AAS, to have a 1 in a million chance to kick my ASS
.even though I kicked AAS I can still kick ASS.
Big Rick Rock said:No, you will need a hell of a lot of AAS, to have a 1 in a million chance to kick my ASS
even though I kicked AAS I can still kick ASS.
look, ill tear your ass up with my brazillian dance fighting.
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juicedpigtails said:
Take that shit to the Martial Arts Forum and stop highjacking my thread.
Buddy_Christ
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no way, let him embarass you here 
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Gambino
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this will easily be the most ignorant question...I completly don't understand the concentration...for example, someone was talking of a company making 200 ml primo...is that how much you recieve in a bottle or much you take? I sux...
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Gambino said:
ok... there are two measurements you need to worry about:
Volumen and Concentration... Volumen is the amount of vehicle used (Oil) and Concentration is the amount of Hormone that is put into that vehicule.
So... when you read somebody say: Deca 200mg per ml, 10ml vial... that means a 10 mililiter vial of deca that has 200mg of hormone per every 1 mililiter.... some companies make 100mg per every 1 ml other as much as 300mg per ml... it all varies...
PS: Make sure you understand th metric system... 1G (gram) = 1,000mg(miligram) 1L (Liter) = 1,000ML (Mililiter)
BTW most syringes measure by cc... a "cc"(cubic centimeter) is the same amount as an ML I really don't know why one would use either one.
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Gambino
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What is a good way to learn about injection procedure? website or something?
sawastea
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string_bean00
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sawastea said:
Good question.
Here's the question if anyone can help. I'm 36 and have never done anything at all. I've gone over to the anabolic board a few times but it really is too confusing for me to figure out.
What would be the best to start out with if money isn't an issue, for how long, and what do I need to watch out for? Can I but this stuff over the counter so to speak. If anything is a problem to answer, just ignore the question. I am a total newbie to this, and don't know if I'm touching on questions I shouldn't ask.
As importantly, are any gains temporary, or will they survive the end of a cycle?
What would be the best to start out with if money isn't an issue, for how long, and what do I need to watch out for? Can I but this stuff over the counter so to speak. If anything is a problem to answer, just ignore the question. I am a total newbie to this, and don't know if I'm touching on questions I shouldn't ask.
As importantly, are any gains temporary, or will they survive the end of a cycle?
strongsmartsexy
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And use .5ml Liquidex EOD to keep the bloat down...Mr. dB said:
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JerseyArt said:
Why not give the prohormones/prosteroids a shot first? I think methyl-1-test and 4-AD are awesome...
I do agree that Test is a good first cycle is test, I would stack it with a little EQ or Deca at a small dosage.. maybe 400mg/500mg Test and 150mg/200mg/EQ or Deca. Make sure to do your research and get Legit shit, a lot of clowns have fake gear floating around.
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JerseyArt said:
Methyl-1-test you cang get from lion nutrition (not sporsors of the stie)
and the 4-ad from herbalmuscle.com (former sponsors of the site)
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The Shadow
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TO be more technical 0.5 -1.0 mg ED
strongsmartsexy said:
TO be more technical 0.5 -1.0 mg ED
strongsmartsexy
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Yes, I should have thought of putting it that way. I have liquidex that is 1mg/ml. Although, I use it EOD.The Shadow said:
strongsmartsexy
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Costs MUCH more and you still have to worry about PCT.Mr. dB said:
awittyusername
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JerseyArt said:
Hey bro, if your 36 you will qualify for TRT (testosterone replacement theropy). I'm on TRT. You can get Test and you PCT supplys prescribed by a DR. legally. PM me if you have any questions
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Mr. dB said:
I was answering his question:
JerseyArt said:
I think some of the OTC prosteroids are just as good as some of the illegal AAS.
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The Shadow
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Big Rick Rock said:
In 2 months all prohormones will be banned or Rx only...might as well use the real stuff
secretsquirrel
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first time use i think oral wil be enough 6 weeks winstrol ?but have no idea about reputable web sites lots of give €€€€ but no guarantees or contacts i work hard for my cash and dont need f***ing around but would like to invest in my body any adviceBig Rick Rock said:
string_bean00
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secretsquirrel said:
Mr. dB said:
Theoretical doses of
40 D-bol day
.5 Adex day
40 Nolva day with a Test cycle. When should the orals be taken? What time of day? All together, split up?
All in the morning, except for the D-bol? Can you comment on WHY?
40 D-bol day
.5 Adex day
40 Nolva day with a Test cycle. When should the orals be taken? What time of day? All together, split up?
All in the morning, except for the D-bol? Can you comment on WHY?
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The Shadow
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gonelifting said:
Dbols short half life makes multiple dosing necessary - although "theoretically", hitting dbol all in the moring will affect HTPA axis less.
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secretsquirrel said:
You should start by investing in getting yourself informed.
Here is one of the best books ever published about Anabolic Steroids and Cycles:
http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/cmei/
When you are ready to go, here is the best way to find what you are looking for:
http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/secrets2000.html
The Shadow said:
I split the Dbol in 2 or 4 doses. How about the timing of the Adex or Nolva, Does it matter?
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gonelifting said:
Nolva has always worked good for me in two doses, Morning / Afternoon, usualy take it with the other orals.
The Adex just try to take once per day, at the same time everyday. Timing is not a big issue.
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The Shadow
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What he said
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view said:
IMO opinion it is NOT worth the pain, nor the trots.
MrMuscle
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Ok, i got a couple of questions
1. If you have two people. (A) has never worked out, but wants to look good for the girls and (B) has been working out hard for 10 years. solid diet, made good gains. But feels he is ready to take the next step. They both get the same cycle, trains the same and eats the same. Who will have the best gains? What im asking i guess is does what you have been doing before you start cycling factor in in the gains.
2. Ive heard people claim that people go on cycle, and when they stop they loose all they have gained. Is this possible? I dont see how since gain in muscle can only be reduced by poor diet and training.
3. Are prohormones now that good that you can do a cycle of them and expect solid gains. And i dont mean solid gains like "i used cratine and got solid gains".
4. Are injectables the only way to go? Wont oral steroids be a good choice because of more side effects and less gains?
5. What are the possible side effects for each different steroid?
1. If you have two people. (A) has never worked out, but wants to look good for the girls and (B) has been working out hard for 10 years. solid diet, made good gains. But feels he is ready to take the next step. They both get the same cycle, trains the same and eats the same. Who will have the best gains? What im asking i guess is does what you have been doing before you start cycling factor in in the gains.
2. Ive heard people claim that people go on cycle, and when they stop they loose all they have gained. Is this possible? I dont see how since gain in muscle can only be reduced by poor diet and training.
3. Are prohormones now that good that you can do a cycle of them and expect solid gains. And i dont mean solid gains like "i used cratine and got solid gains".
4. Are injectables the only way to go? Wont oral steroids be a good choice because of more side effects and less gains?
5. What are the possible side effects for each different steroid?
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