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revexrevex
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Truths? What fucking truths? One photograph proves nothing!
ON the other hand they were fucking morons to insert that msoke there, it looked like a 9 year old photoshop job.
ON the other hand they were fucking morons to insert that msoke there, it looked like a 9 year old photoshop job.
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revexrevex
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No it is not true
DeepZenPill
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2Thick said:
No, that's the size of his arms.
Imnotdutch
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2Thick said:
You are saying that the crematoria were not used? Or just that some pieces of evidence are fake?
the nature boy
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doctored photo or not, auschwitz wasn't a summer camp.
milo hobgoblin
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Why doesnt this surprise me?
Why doesnt this surprise me?
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Code
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overhead said:
Actually their purpose was more in line with the Red Cross and the World Health Organization.
primetime21
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2Thick said:
specious logic.
let me ask you this question. How many jews do you think died in the holocaust? The number some say is 6 million. However, some newer numbers suggest it may have been more like 5 million. How many do you think were killed?
And can someone explain why a fake picture would mean less people died? I dont see the correlation.
Lumberg
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Interesting, since the Weisenthal center is the recipient of a lot of Arnold's money. He of course is trying to counteract the whole his daddy was a Nazi and he's bigoted too accusations.
A few years ago after untold millions the Weisenthal center recognized him as a friend of the Weisenthal center, thus, according to his camp, proving he is truly a friend of the Jews.
Seems like they're willing to say pretty much anything. This doesn't help Arnold much.
A few years ago after untold millions the Weisenthal center recognized him as a friend of the Weisenthal center, thus, according to his camp, proving he is truly a friend of the Jews.
Seems like they're willing to say pretty much anything. This doesn't help Arnold much.
Lumberg
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Interesting development. The Simon Weisenthal center is the recipient of lots of Arnold's money. This is an attempt to quell the "your daddy was a Nazi and you are a bigot" negativity.
A few years ago the Weisenthal center declared Arnold a "friend of the center" thus pretty much giving him a pretty good counterargument.
However now we see the Weisenthal center may not be as ethical as they would like us to believe--will this impact Arnold's campaign?
A few years ago the Weisenthal center declared Arnold a "friend of the center" thus pretty much giving him a pretty good counterargument.
However now we see the Weisenthal center may not be as ethical as they would like us to believe--will this impact Arnold's campaign?
milo hobgoblin
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FUCK!!!!!!!!!! you people are fucking SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe we deserve what we are getting. For being so stupid and not seeing the obvious.
Most of this shit has been FAKED and has been proven TIME AND TIME again.
FUCK!!!!!!!!!! you people are fucking SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe we deserve what we are getting. For being so stupid and not seeing the obvious.
Most of this shit has been FAKED and has been proven TIME AND TIME again.
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Dude...my family went through it. Not on the JEWISH side, on the GERMAN side.
Believe me when I tell you, Wiesenthal and the others haveonly told you 10% of the story, maximum...
sheep that
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Dude...my family went through it. Not on the JEWISH side, on the GERMAN side.
Believe me when I tell you, Wiesenthal and the others haveonly told you 10% of the story, maximum...
sheep that
the nature boy
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10%? come on. what are they holding back for?
MattTheSkywalker said:
10%? come on. what are they holding back for?
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on 9/11, there were people who actually said "this wouldn't happen if we stopped supporting Israel" as if Arabs mass murdering us was OUR fault, not theirs.
Same reason.
You live near DC. Go to the Holocaust museum.
The Nature Boy said:
on 9/11, there were people who actually said "this wouldn't happen if we stopped supporting Israel" as if Arabs mass murdering us was OUR fault, not theirs.
Same reason.
You live near DC. Go to the Holocaust museum.
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Code
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Lumberg said:
Gonna have to see a link or something, sounds like hyperbole.
Since when did someone feel the ened to clear the sins of their father. I don't see anyone from Nanking making good on that, I don't see the US making good on Fat Man and Little Boy.
milo hobgoblin
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Then tell me... PM me stuff. I would love to read it.
I have seen schematics... diagrams... everything. Read witness accounts of people who visited after the fact and NONE of them support the clamins that the jews make.
None of these building could have accomplished ANYTHING near the level of killing claimed by the Jews.
They simply were NOT designed for that purpose. EVERYTHING from the schematics to the architecural documents show that these buildings were designed for delousing hundreds of people at a time and then burn their clothing and the bodies of people who dies from being overworked, starved and those weak enough to die from delousing. But it was not a systematic killing. Why in the hell would the Nazis kill off free labor? They could have used them then deported them after the war... or killed them when they no longer need them.
LICE was a horrible by product of storing thousands upon thousands of people. Delousing chambers were the most effectiv method for this. I am NOT saying that the Nazis didnt kill ungodly numbers of people but I have not seen a SINGLE shred of proof that it happened the way the Jewish culture has portrayed it.
If you know people who were there guards, workers, etc... then enlighten me... show me something. But please, dont show me something written by Jewish "victims" Because most of it has already been discounted.
Then tell me... PM me stuff. I would love to read it.
I have seen schematics... diagrams... everything. Read witness accounts of people who visited after the fact and NONE of them support the clamins that the jews make.
None of these building could have accomplished ANYTHING near the level of killing claimed by the Jews.
They simply were NOT designed for that purpose. EVERYTHING from the schematics to the architecural documents show that these buildings were designed for delousing hundreds of people at a time and then burn their clothing and the bodies of people who dies from being overworked, starved and those weak enough to die from delousing. But it was not a systematic killing. Why in the hell would the Nazis kill off free labor? They could have used them then deported them after the war... or killed them when they no longer need them.
LICE was a horrible by product of storing thousands upon thousands of people. Delousing chambers were the most effectiv method for this. I am NOT saying that the Nazis didnt kill ungodly numbers of people but I have not seen a SINGLE shred of proof that it happened the way the Jewish culture has portrayed it.
If you know people who were there guards, workers, etc... then enlighten me... show me something. But please, dont show me something written by Jewish "victims" Because most of it has already been discounted.
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All you really need to know is that the Germans sent U-boats to Japan to roundup Jews. (there were a few thousands there) What else do you need to know about what they were trying to do? I will try and find you some literature when i have a chance.
As far as free labor, they had about 100 other sources of that - in fact, during reparations negotiations, Poles, Salves, Hungarians etc etc were all compensated in the al;st decade.
The jews were not the only labor by any means.
By the way, the japs wouldn't turn them over.
Milo Hobgoblin said:
All you really need to know is that the Germans sent U-boats to Japan to roundup Jews. (there were a few thousands there) What else do you need to know about what they were trying to do? I will try and find you some literature when i have a chance.
As far as free labor, they had about 100 other sources of that - in fact, during reparations negotiations, Poles, Salves, Hungarians etc etc were all compensated in the al;st decade.
The jews were not the only labor by any means.
By the way, the japs wouldn't turn them over.
primetime21 said:
Well, there were many Communists, Gypsies, Gays, Mentally Handicapped and other groups killed in WW2 by the Nazi regime. Jews made up a part of those killed. The numbers are not confirmed so no one really knows how many people were killed.
Lying, being deceitful and manipulation are traits carried by people that are not to be trusted. You figure out the rest.
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Whatever. Arabs flew planes into a buildings because we offended their God, their "holy land". ironically, we had protectde it 10 years earlier.
2Thick said:
Whatever. Arabs flew planes into a buildings because we offended their God, their "holy land". ironically, we had protectde it 10 years earlier.
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anabolicmd
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Just like Leonidas, only he died with great honour.
2Thick said:
Just like Leonidas, only he died with great honour.
milo hobgoblin
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Our mistake was fucking around too long in the middle east in general... we let the motor and oil companies drive our demand for oil and force us to retain a presence in the middle east.
We have pissed off an entire portion of the world for years and are now paying the price.
And yet again... who ELSE Benefites from us warring on all the Muslim nations???
I S R E A L
Our mistake was fucking around too long in the middle east in general... we let the motor and oil companies drive our demand for oil and force us to retain a presence in the middle east.
We have pissed off an entire portion of the world for years and are now paying the price.
And yet again... who ELSE Benefites from us warring on all the Muslim nations???
I S R E A L
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Actually, support for Israel is a cold war era policy that dates back to the formation of Israel and teh USSR's belief they would go Communist.
Muslim countries are the shithole of the world, and they are rich countries, but they are last in everything. Israel is the only thing in the region that even remotely resembles a civilization.
You have a weird way of looking at things.
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Actually, support for Israel is a cold war era policy that dates back to the formation of Israel and teh USSR's belief they would go Communist.
Muslim countries are the shithole of the world, and they are rich countries, but they are last in everything. Israel is the only thing in the region that even remotely resembles a civilization.
You have a weird way of looking at things.
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anabolicmd
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Check out what this website says about hoaxes that make US go to war:
Check out this story, it is very interesting, and along these lines:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html
Check out this story, it is very interesting, and along these lines:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html
Imnotdutch
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2Thick said:
I was just trying to figure what the hell you meant..........last time I checked that isnt putting words in peoples mouths. What you wrote came across as slightly ambiguous.
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It was not about offending their God or their pedophile founder or their shitty holy land. It was about Israel, globalization and sheeple.
Action/Reaction
Those people did not deserve to die but the US government is solely responsible for 9/11. Too bad the whole country had to pay for the decisions of .00000000000001% of the population.
MattTheSkywalker said:
It was not about offending their God or their pedophile founder or their shitty holy land. It was about Israel, globalization and sheeple.
Action/Reaction
Those people did not deserve to die but the US government is solely responsible for 9/11. Too bad the whole country had to pay for the decisions of .00000000000001% of the population.
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Muslim nations are shitholes because they are almost all police states or some tyranical regime. Meaning the mad skrilla they make from oil goes with to the leader and his posse.
They do not care for the people or the infrastructure of their nations.
MattTheSkywalker said:
Muslim nations are shitholes because they are almost all police states or some tyranical regime. Meaning the mad skrilla they make from oil goes with to the leader and his posse.
They do not care for the people or the infrastructure of their nations.
milo hobgoblin
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I dont have a weird way of looking at things... Im trying NOT to look at the world through American eyes..
We may see Muslim countries as backward ass shitholes.... but their culture and way of life has been around a hell of A LOT longer than urs... and our demand for oil doesnt really givbe us the right to enfore our values upon them.
I may personally HATE everything about middle east cultures... but it doesnt give me the right to go kick the shit out of every towel head I see.
Its their life to live... their country. THEIR region. We need to let them AND Isreal work out their problems...
uh oh virus scan gotta restart.
I dont have a weird way of looking at things... Im trying NOT to look at the world through American eyes..
We may see Muslim countries as backward ass shitholes.... but their culture and way of life has been around a hell of A LOT longer than urs... and our demand for oil doesnt really givbe us the right to enfore our values upon them.
I may personally HATE everything about middle east cultures... but it doesnt give me the right to go kick the shit out of every towel head I see.
Its their life to live... their country. THEIR region. We need to let them AND Isreal work out their problems...
uh oh virus scan gotta restart.
milo hobgoblin
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GOD DAMNIT
Fucking worm virus just hit 4 computers in a row...
I got shit that aint even in the domain getting hit over the wire...
ok back to the important stuff..
Fucking worm virus just hit 4 computers in a row...
I got shit that aint even in the domain getting hit over the wire...
ok back to the important stuff..
primetime21
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2Thick said:
Do you know how to answer a question? I asked how many jews you think died? Its pretty obvious that you know the numbers are in the millions. Even if the jews made up 3 milions deaths (which the didnt) that still leaves 3 million jews murdered by the nazis. if you want to know whats scarier; 3 to 6 million jews killed or a doctored photo, i will guess the millions murdered jews.
lumberg where did you get that avatar. im going to steal it from you being that i am strongbad.
Mandinka2
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Code , u have got to be kidding me , hang out with some Germans sometime , they are the most pitiful guilt ridden fucks you could ever meet , always wailin on about how their grandfather was in the war and blah blah. I'm talkin about the young folks too here! I think they've given like $60 billion to Israel since its foundation to get them up and running because of their guilt.Code said:
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Mandinka2 said:
Well, they're pussies then. Get the fuck over it.
milo hobgoblin
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The Germans killed over 20 million Russians during the war... I dont here all kinds of bullshit propaganda and doctored photos from them.
I sure as hell dont see Germany sending them bundles of cash to rebuild...
Do you have any idea how many TENS OF THOUSANDS of German POW's died in American prison camps at the end of the war?? We practically let them starve.
What about Chinese prisoners of the Japanese... 100's of thousands... if not millions killed but no one hears about that.
Why? Why is that all we hear over and over again... the "Holocaust" of the Jewish people... so much of which has been discounted. Its all bullshit designed to garner support and sympathy.
The Jews LIKE EVERYONE ELSE lost many people during the war... the difference is that all the other countries arent using it as some sort of guilt blackmail on the rest of the world...
and ANYONE who merely mentions deceit or fraud is labeled an anti semite or hate mongerer.
The Germans killed over 20 million Russians during the war... I dont here all kinds of bullshit propaganda and doctored photos from them.
I sure as hell dont see Germany sending them bundles of cash to rebuild...
Do you have any idea how many TENS OF THOUSANDS of German POW's died in American prison camps at the end of the war?? We practically let them starve.
What about Chinese prisoners of the Japanese... 100's of thousands... if not millions killed but no one hears about that.
Why? Why is that all we hear over and over again... the "Holocaust" of the Jewish people... so much of which has been discounted. Its all bullshit designed to garner support and sympathy.
The Jews LIKE EVERYONE ELSE lost many people during the war... the difference is that all the other countries arent using it as some sort of guilt blackmail on the rest of the world...
and ANYONE who merely mentions deceit or fraud is labeled an anti semite or hate mongerer.
Lumberg
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Mandinka2 said:
Note Arnold is Austrian not German. But I'm pretty sure Austria was pretty much a colony during the Nazi regime.
Well Arnold doesn't have the greatest track record even in his life. I don't remember the exact link but I'm sure if you google on Schwarzenegger and Weisenthal you'll get some hits.
juicedmullet from one of the SBemails of course........
overhead
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Why in the world would a German feel guilty for the holocost? I thought you guys were just saying not that many Jews were killed. Or was it that others were killed along with the Jews so there could not have been that many killed? You guys are right, america is responsible for 9/11, and the Germans had nothing to do with the holocost.
IG Farben
Also another little unknown fact about concentration camps. Poppy Bush (George Bush's grandfather)was arrested during WWII for trading with the enemy(NAZIS). His Firm Brown Brothers & Harriman owned the controlling interest in IG Farben(NAZI German corporation)and IG Farben built all the concentration camps and has the Patent on Zyrkon-B(Gas that killed the people in the camps). A NOTE TO ANYBODY WHO DOESNT LIKE READING THIS AND SPOUTS OFF LIKE A GOOD LITTLE FACIST BEFORE THEY CHECK THEIR FACTS, YOUR THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA.
GO TO A SEARCH ENGINE TYPE IN IG FARBEN AND BUSH FAMILY AND SEE HOW DEEP THE RABIT HOLE GOES.
Also another little unknown fact about concentration camps. Poppy Bush (George Bush's grandfather)was arrested during WWII for trading with the enemy(NAZIS). His Firm Brown Brothers & Harriman owned the controlling interest in IG Farben(NAZI German corporation)and IG Farben built all the concentration camps and has the Patent on Zyrkon-B(Gas that killed the people in the camps). A NOTE TO ANYBODY WHO DOESNT LIKE READING THIS AND SPOUTS OFF LIKE A GOOD LITTLE FACIST BEFORE THEY CHECK THEIR FACTS, YOUR THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA.
GO TO A SEARCH ENGINE TYPE IN IG FARBEN AND BUSH FAMILY AND SEE HOW DEEP THE RABIT HOLE GOES.
milo hobgoblin
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Well...
With all 6 of your posts you're sure to be a reliable source of information...
With all 6 of your posts you're sure to be a reliable source of information...
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Code
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Lumberg said:
So it's some word of mouth urban myth?
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No, 19 Arabs are.
2Thick said:
No, 19 Arabs are.
Re: IG Farben
Yeah there are some links between Prescot Bush and German bankers. Chcek them out, good reading.
ToTall said:
Yeah there are some links between Prescot Bush and German bankers. Chcek them out, good reading.
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Worth making the point that Iranians are not Arabs, as you know all too well.
Iran could regain some of its glory if it kicked the Guardian Council out of power and aimed for democracy.
2Thick said:
Worth making the point that Iranians are not Arabs, as you know all too well.
Iran could regain some of its glory if it kicked the Guardian Council out of power and aimed for democracy.
2 THICK, GOOD RESPONSES. 911 AS ALL INFORMED PEOPLE KNOW. WAS CARRIED OUT BY ISRAEL AND BLACK OPPS AMERICANS. MUSLIMS WERE MADE THE SCAPEGOATS TO THE SHEEPLE (AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO WATCH TV NEWS) TO JUSTIFY ALL OUT WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR OIL. PEOPLE CHECK THE FACTS YOUR SELF DONT LET THE MEDIA FEED THEM TO YOU.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_050503_bombs.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_050503_bombs.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.html
the nature boy
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boy you guys are going way off topic.
primetime21
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Other countries? Jews arent a country einstein! the difference is that jews werent killed by bombs, they were singled out and exterminated. A big difference. either way, jews make a very big deal about the holocaust, much like black people do about slavery. its our history.
If you dont care about it, then fine.
If other people who were killed during WWII wanted to make a museum, i wouldnt object. If gypsys claimed that 3 million of them were killed, i wouldnt try to disprove that fact.
So whats fishy, is your desire to disprove the deaths of millions of jews. It makes me wonder what your motivations are. If you think the jewish deaths in the holocaust arent a big deal, why do you post so much about the topic? I know the answer. But perhaps you can let everyone else know what your true motivations are.
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Other countries? Jews arent a country einstein! the difference is that jews werent killed by bombs, they were singled out and exterminated. A big difference. either way, jews make a very big deal about the holocaust, much like black people do about slavery. its our history.
If you dont care about it, then fine.
If other people who were killed during WWII wanted to make a museum, i wouldnt object. If gypsys claimed that 3 million of them were killed, i wouldnt try to disprove that fact.
So whats fishy, is your desire to disprove the deaths of millions of jews. It makes me wonder what your motivations are. If you think the jewish deaths in the holocaust arent a big deal, why do you post so much about the topic? I know the answer. But perhaps you can let everyone else know what your true motivations are.
primetime21
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GREAT POST. Fact is alot of jews in america were NOT behind Bush (Sr and Jr) because of fears that they were against jewish interests. Personally i thought it was BS. However, to think that the Bush's are suddenly the great savior of all jews and that israel is their sole concern is idiotic.
ToTall said:
GREAT POST. Fact is alot of jews in america were NOT behind Bush (Sr and Jr) because of fears that they were against jewish interests. Personally i thought it was BS. However, to think that the Bush's are suddenly the great savior of all jews and that israel is their sole concern is idiotic.
milo hobgoblin
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My true motivations are exposing any lie used to deceive everyone else for their own cultural gain.
My true motivations are exposing any lie used to deceive everyone else for their own cultural gain.
primetime21
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Can you link me to other cultural lies that you have "exposed" on this board. Feel free to list each and every other cultural lie (you can exclude all the ones about jews).
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Can you link me to other cultural lies that you have "exposed" on this board. Feel free to list each and every other cultural lie (you can exclude all the ones about jews).
Tiervexx
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There is a huge difference between killing people in battle and rounding up unarmed civilians.
I agree with this part. The Jews not the only innocents to suffer and die in the war, but they seem to be the only ones that you hear about.
Milo Hobgoblin said:
There is a huge difference between killing people in battle and rounding up unarmed civilians.
Milo Hobgoblin said:
I agree with this part. The Jews not the only innocents to suffer and die in the war, but they seem to be the only ones that you hear about.
pitbullstl
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Fuck it.......disputing facts is one thing....irrational arguements over the same topic gets tiresome....but still your constitutional right.....what bothers me the most are the underlying anti-semetic tones that are oh so obvious.......so like I said....fuck it.....why doesn't every Jew hating anti-semetic piece of fuck speak their mind in a clear and concise manner.....at least then you won't seem so cowardly.....no shyness needed boys....were all friends here..
...so let em fly......and before anyone misdirects their anger, and spouts off something stupid, pm me, as I am most accessible to any and all antisemites, in good ol' middle ameica, St. Louis MO.....
...so let em fly......and before anyone misdirects their anger, and spouts off something stupid, pm me, as I am most accessible to any and all antisemites, in good ol' middle ameica, St. Louis MO.....
the nature boy
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Bullit said:
dude, that's funny because I thought of something similar to that this morning. strange.
The_Eviscerator
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pitbullstl said:
I think you hit it right on the head... there seems to be a lot of closet jew haters who like split hairs on this board. I thought I was the only one that noticed that.
Mandinka2
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Bro , if u've got issues , then make it clear what exactly ur referring to , just dont tar folks with some brush called jew-haters or Nazis. I remember some folks thought Gunther deserved the O last year and there was cries of racism on the board (personally I htink Ronnie is no.1. - dreadful gut showin tho) - at least in this case we have a little history to go on.pitbullstl said:Fuck it.......disputing facts is one thing....irrational arguements over the same topic gets tiresome....but still your constitutional right.....what bothers me the most are the underlying anti-semetic tones that are oh so obvious.......so like I said....fuck it.....why doesn't every Jew hating anti-semetic piece of fuck speak their mind in a clear and concise manner.....at least then you won't seem so cowardly.....no shyness needed boys....were all friends here..
pitbullstl
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The_Eviscerator said:
nope....I am reading it loud and clear......
pitbullstl
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Mandinka2 said:
My thoughts are directed at the individiuals who have perpetuated their disdain for Jews....through regurgitated rhetoric and so called "facts" .....if this does not apply to you, then why would you feel "tarred"??? It would be my assumption that those who responded to my thread, are implying guilt on their part for things they have said during the course of this thread.....is that not the case?? I hope not, but if so.....please refer to above thread..........
Lumberg
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Hey Code you lazy FUCK
http://www.msnbc.com/news/949666.asp?cp1=1
http://www.austria.org/press/8.html
http://www.msnbc.com/news/949666.asp?cp1=1
http://www.austria.org/press/8.html
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revexrevex
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Milo you're a fucking Nazi scum. You provide no concrete evidence nor any intelligent rational thinking in relation to this issue. My family was buried by the Nazi's.... ALIVE.... the atrocities that fascists commited against the Jews cannot even be communicated in words.... you use one picture to spark a whole conspiracy theory, backed up by 2thick, who is also amazing person whom I want to suck off.
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revexrevex
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How about the personal accounts of thousands of people with whom I lived back in Ukraine, almost crying at the slightest thoughts of what happened to their relatives and their friends. It was all a conspiracy, organized by a Jewish collective right? Independent people who had no reasons to lie were telling HORRIBLE stories of Jews being burned and tortured alive
Most of what JEws said has been discounted? What a fucking idiot you are? Maybe the fact that when my grandfather walked froem ukraine to poland on foot, and then was told by his friend how his whole family was buried in the ground for 3 days, with Nazi's standing around the grave so not to allow other citizens to dig them out? How about the screems of children in that live grave, screaming, trying to get out, pleading for their lives, slowly suffocating...... Was that all made up too you ignorant MOTHER FUCKER?
Milo Hobgoblin said:
How about the personal accounts of thousands of people with whom I lived back in Ukraine, almost crying at the slightest thoughts of what happened to their relatives and their friends. It was all a conspiracy, organized by a Jewish collective right? Independent people who had no reasons to lie were telling HORRIBLE stories of Jews being burned and tortured alive
Most of what JEws said has been discounted? What a fucking idiot you are? Maybe the fact that when my grandfather walked froem ukraine to poland on foot, and then was told by his friend how his whole family was buried in the ground for 3 days, with Nazi's standing around the grave so not to allow other citizens to dig them out? How about the screems of children in that live grave, screaming, trying to get out, pleading for their lives, slowly suffocating...... Was that all made up too you ignorant MOTHER FUCKER?
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Lumberg said:
Eh, I found *those*.
So he had a long term, friendly relationship with someone. Who turned out to be a nazi in his younger years. If the relationship was true and meaningful, there is no reason for him to not continue his friendship or love for the guy.
Since everyone on the board seems to think the holocaust was hyperbole and propaganda, does it matter?
primetime21
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revexrevex said:
rev, i totally feel your pain. My grandparents were in Auschwitz and saw their brothers and sisters die in front of them. My grandfather stood by as his first wife and child were killed. People that try to discount the impact of the holocaust will never be able to relate to what actually happened. The problem is that while some of them are evil jerks that could die horrible deaths. others are merely ignorant morons, spitting out crap that they have been fed by others. They have not spent time talking to survivors who still cant sleep at night and still spend good portions of their days crying in pain. instead of getting first hand accounts of the holocaust they rather read some obscure websites to get their information.
Mandinka2
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Bro , I musta missed somthing , "your thread" , which one is that ? Post a link man. I have no love for many races/administrations' behaviours during certain historical periods but I would not wish to say that because someone disagrees with me or my understanding of history that he neccessarily takes a hating (i.e. irrational) standpoint.pitbullstl said:
Mandinka2
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Could I just say to the two folks here that are talking about pain (primetime and revexreves) that whilst their stories are undoubtedly true , no one race/people has a monopoly on pain or cruelty. Should 4everhung or another true historian arrive on this thread , he would doubtless recount many tales of the Russian torturers used in Stalingrad amongst other places.For myself , not living too far from Sarajevo I can tell of an incident involving several hundred Bosnians being locked naked and starving into a shed with no light , after 3 days they were released , just to see how many survived. Al-Khiam prison in Southern Lebanon (now closed) was for 20 years the place where the Israeli army brought young Arab children to be tortured. People in glass houses really SHOULDNT throw stones.
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Mandinka2 said:
You are making a TREMENDOUS MISTAKE in LOGIC. I am not saying the atrocities on Jews were worse than what you explained in your thread (however it was on a much bigger scale). I am not denying the acts of RedArmy with the persecution of Jews. I am not saying that one crisis of simular magnitude is greater than antoher crisis.
However, what I am trying to explain, is that people on this board, specifically Milo Fuckglobin, and 2skinny are trying to deny that massive killings/burnings/torturing had EVER happened between Nazi's and Jews. This is what I am so mad about. These ignorant minds (probably of German descent (!)) are contradicting millions of people who had went through Halacaust and the war. What they need to do is get off this board, and join their Local KKK/
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Mandinka2 said:
Or the Rape of Nanking.
IMO that was far worse than the holocaust, mostly because there's proof of it.
primetime21
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Code said:
There is no proof the holocaust. Come to NY and visit all 4 of my grandparents. You can speak to them and see the numbers tatooed to their arms.
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primetime, where in NY are you????
pitbullstl
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Mandinka2 said:
And once again, no one is attempting to claim a monoply on pain and suffering, nor, has anyone called you out,(at least I have not) I will also allow myself to throw stones as I do not live in a glass house, even though I have not thrown a single one yet....as I am not an Israeli, but an American Jew......do not confuse myself nor another American Jew as being a supporter of the Israeli Army, or Israeli politics......fact of the matter is we have some self proclaimed experts on this board, otherwise known as lowly conspiracy theorists, that are attempting to state that the Holocaust did not happen.....the tatoo on my grandfathers arm is living breathing proof that it did in fact happen ( to me) an the countless horror stories I have heard from him....... and I will defend that proof till the day I die......my problem is not with you....it is with the cowardly anti-semites on this board.....eveyone is so prophetic on an internet chat board.....but these views are never shared with me to my face....why is that????
primetime21
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Mandinka2 said:
No one is doubting other atrocities in human history. I am sure some of them have been falsified in some way or another. I have heard some CRAZY stories about the holocaust and i am sure some are true and some are made up or glorified. No one is asking anyone for sympathy. Rather, we are asking for people to NOT diminish what did happen. Statements that try to lessen the accounts of what happened serve no purpose. Rather, they come off as anti-semitic.
For example, you tell us that your sister got hit by a car and died. If i come on and say, "well did she look before crossing the street?" You would want to kick my ass for even saying that. It's the same thing.
As for the current situation in israel. There is no reason to bring that up. My grandparents have never been to israel. Why should the acts of those people impact your feelings about what happened to my grandparents and millions of others? It makes no sense. And lets not forget that the palestinians have done their fair share of crap the last 50 years. Its not like the palestinians are poor innocent people.
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primetime21 said:
You can find similar tatoos on damn near any prisoner of war from that era. The japanese we took into custody included.
pitbullstl
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Code said:
So all of the Jews that suffered in the Holocaust were POW's???????? WTF????
The_Eviscerator
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pitbullstl said:
One look at your avatar or in the mirror should answer your question...lol
pitbullstl
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Code said:
By constantly challenging my every post I am to assume that you too do not believe the Holocaust happened??
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pitbullstl said:
Not under the definition of the Geneva Convention.
But then neither were the Japanese citizens the Us rounded up.
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pitbullstl said:
By constantly assuming everything, are you ever correct?
No, I do not. Do I believe it was anywhere near as bad as reported in history? No, I do not.
It simply makes no sense to kill off free labor, regardless how MUCH free labor you have (russians, poles etc).
Do I think they were enslaved? Yes. But so were Africans in the US. Have the africans in the US gotten their own fucking NATION for it? No. Should they? No, but then the jews didn't either.
Code said:
Liberia.
And they applied for US statehood.
The UN gave Israel to Jews because neither the US not the UK wanted Jewish immigration.
pitbullstl
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Code said:
So in other words, my grandfather who I love with all of my heart, and is the backbone of my entire family, is blatantly lying to me, when he recounts the images of his entire family being hauled off to the gas chamber? He was lying to me as he broke down in tears, and told me of having to watch his mother and sister die? i think not.......but hey maybe you should come to the Lou so we can sit down and discuss this further over a nice bowl of matzoh ball soup????
milo hobgoblin
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............
Not that it matters much now...
but Im neither a Nazi or an Anti Semite. As far as the ideals put forth by the Jewish religion... they make a hell of a lot more sense than Christianity (I do not beleive Jesus was the Savior either... although I do beleive in a higher power of sorts)..
I just dont beleive everything American and Jewish owned media says about the holocaust.
BUT on the other hand I do strongly beleive that the Zionist government of Isreal plays a strong hand in American politics and that the Jewish culture exhibits a STRONG influence on American media and popular culture. I also strongly beleive that many of the recent terrorist events are partially sponsored by Isreal to garner support for their state in the middle east.
As I said in one of my earliest posts... The Nazis did horrible things to A LOT of people... including the Jews... BUT it doesnt give the Jewish culture special rights or priveleges. It doesnt make them anything other than one of the hundreds of cultures that have been oppressed at the hands of others.
I feel sorry for ANYONES family that died in a camp... including Jews. But I wouldnt shed extra tears for them over anyone else.
If my beliefs make me a Nazi and an Anti Semite in everyones eyes. Oh well..
Not that it matters much now...
but Im neither a Nazi or an Anti Semite. As far as the ideals put forth by the Jewish religion... they make a hell of a lot more sense than Christianity (I do not beleive Jesus was the Savior either... although I do beleive in a higher power of sorts)..
I just dont beleive everything American and Jewish owned media says about the holocaust.
BUT on the other hand I do strongly beleive that the Zionist government of Isreal plays a strong hand in American politics and that the Jewish culture exhibits a STRONG influence on American media and popular culture. I also strongly beleive that many of the recent terrorist events are partially sponsored by Isreal to garner support for their state in the middle east.
As I said in one of my earliest posts... The Nazis did horrible things to A LOT of people... including the Jews... BUT it doesnt give the Jewish culture special rights or priveleges. It doesnt make them anything other than one of the hundreds of cultures that have been oppressed at the hands of others.
I feel sorry for ANYONES family that died in a camp... including Jews. But I wouldnt shed extra tears for them over anyone else.
If my beliefs make me a Nazi and an Anti Semite in everyones eyes. Oh well..
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pitbullstl said:
Again, an assumption. You're either incredibly dense or simply belligerant for the sake of being a martyr vicariously.
I never said it didn't happen, you made the assumption I thought it never happened. Do I think it's tragic? Sure. Do I think everyone needs to feel angst and pain over it? Hell No. Is it sad about your family? Yes? Do I personally care? Hell no, I wouldn't know you from Adam.
The jews got reparations, which is a lot more than the chinese for Nanking, the japanese for Hiroshima, the africans for US slavery ad infinitum.....
I don't know what or where a Lou is, but I'm sure it's not a center for learning or advancement of knowledge. How about meeting me at Boston University or Stanford to discuss this futher, since at the very least we know there's some larnin' takin' place there.
Or, if you wanna be more belligerant about it, Fort Meade where I work on occasion or maybe SAIC in San Diego or SAIC's branch in Utah. Take your pick.
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Are they a US state? Did I count the wrong number of stars this morning on my way into the office??
milo hobgoblin
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you're an Anti Semite for saying all that... even if it made perfect sense.... oh ya and a Nazi too.
you're an Anti Semite for saying all that... even if it made perfect sense.... oh ya and a Nazi too.
pitbullstl
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Re: ............
well put, and glad you responded as previous post made you out to sound like quite the anti-semite.....glad to see your not....
Milo Hobgoblin said:
well put, and glad you responded as previous post made you out to sound like quite the anti-semite.....glad to see your not....
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