Catabolism After One Hour

[Legion Kreinak2]

The hormone, cortisol, which is what causes protein to be dervied from the muscle tissue and brought to the liver to be used as glycogen, better known as catabolism, is supposedly significantly increased after a strength training workout continues after an hours time.

Has anyone heard anything on this before?

When doing the 5x5 routine, my routines would last up to 1 hour 30 minutes sometimes. I suppose this is becuase shoulders, biceps, triceps, and forearms were all worked in one workout, and the significant amount of rest supposedly required for the 5x5 led to extended periods of training.

Any thoughts?

 

[OMEGA]

I agree thats why I think its stupid to do cardio after a hard workout

especially if your natural

 

[DBCooper]

Get some 'keto strips' weider used to make them, they detect if your catabolic or not, tried them when I was 18 and found out I was NEVER catabolic lol guess the glands were in high gear then.

 

[BigTimer]

yeah its cause anytime u workout for more then an hour the body releases cortisol,putting u in a catabolic state,so what u have to do is get back in to an anabolic state quickly. u do this by taking a fast absorbing protien mixed with dextrose like 20-30 min post workout,and also if u are natrual i would also take glutamine

 

[argent]

Ketostrips monitor if there are ketones in your urine, which are a byproduct of fat utilization. They don't really determine if you are catabolic or not.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

I've also heard the following:

So long as you get a quick-digesting protein into your system within 30 minutes post-workout, you'll get the maximum gains from your training.

The quickly-digested protein is, I'm assuming, sent to the liver as glycogen rather than the muscle tissue being broken down. Either that or the tissue (or rather, proteins in the muscles) is still sent to the liver, and the protein you took in replaces what was (or most of what was) lost.

Yes?

 

[DBCooper]

Ketosis is a state in which your body breaks down fat and/or muscle to use as energy, the strips tell you if your body is doing this at all, if it is your breaking down your gains=catabolic.

 

[DrBones]

The quickly-digested protein is, I'm assuming, sent to the liver as glycogen rather than the muscle tissue being broken down. Either that or the tissue (or rather, proteins in the muscles) is still sent to the liver, and the protein you took in replaces what was (or most of what was) lost.

I'm going to assume that the dextrose (a fast absorbing sugar) is what is going to be filling your liver glycogen and not the protein...

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

I'm not sure, this is just what I've read on a few sites last night.

 

[scruples]

Ketosis is a state in which your body breaks down fat and/or muscle to use as energy, the strips tell you if your body is doing this at all, if it is your breaking down your gains=catabolic.

ketones are made from fat, not muscle...

ketogenic diets are popular because they can help to minimize muscle loss during cutting... if those strips turn color, it means that your body is metabolizing fat into ketones to use as energy...

and dextrose refills muscle glycogen pretty effectively, that is why it is used post workout w/some whey... dextrose also causes an insulin spike, which helps shuttle nutrients to the muscles