Carb-up first or second week of CKD?

[Spunky]

Is it best to go 2 weeks before your first carb-up? I read this on the board over at c-k-d.com. I started this monday, so should I carbup Saturday or wait until next Saturday?

 

[the nature boy]

if you can make it, go for 2. I didn't, but then again I'm having all sorts of ketosis issues so don't listen to me. do what you FEEL is best. if your workouts are not suffering, go for it.

 

[Xizor]

If its in the beginning of the diet I would suggest that u carbup once a week. If the training will suffer its better to carbup.. think higher intensty training and a carbup a week will yield better results then loading eow+poor workouts. And it tears on u psychologically not being able to lift as much... Many pros with carbup.. it boosts metabolism, get ur brain workin properly and fills ur muscle with glycogen and u'll look better.. if u dont overload, then u will look smooth.

/Xizor

EDIT:takes some time for the body to change into using ketones.
Took me 2-3 weeks and I was in by 3rd day.. Dont be worrying buddy.. let the body take its time to change.

 

[beastboy]

I did it after a week.

 

[Spunky]

should i start eating high fat / low carbs the day after my carb-up?? it looks like i would still have an insulin spike from my carb-up day and if i start eating high fats again that it would cause me to gain weight.... maybe im wrong..

 

[the nature boy]

should i start eating high fat / low carbs the day after my carb-up?? it looks like i would still have an insulin spike from my carb-up day and if i start eating high fats again that it would cause me to gain weight.... maybe im wrong..

if you give yourself a good buffer... like when you're asleep, the insulin spike should be done. if your insulin levels were raised for such a long period of time your pancreas (sp?) would be totally spent. also for good measure end your carb up with complex carbs that don't illicit a great insulin response.

 

[duchaine]

I'm having my second curb-up.
I'm having the 12 days carbs-down,2 days carbs-up schedule.
the good is u lose a lot of fat,but the performance suffers.
I think (I think like XIZOR)that u get a better carb-up if u can get a good deplation work-out.
evry 2 weeks the depletion w/o will suffer for lack of strenght and concentration.
in addiction,u can't cut too much calories daily on this schedule,or u will lose too much muscles.
so,I 'll jump to normal schedule(5+2) because
1)better performance gives a better carb-up
2)I can cut more calories daily,because the frequently carb-up will be the recompostion phase
3)cutting more calories daily,per se,will produce less muscles loss,because higher leptin levels from the last carb-up.

I ask u one tip:recomposition numbers.
shorting the carb-up or reducing the carbs over the 48 hours period respect to authentic-boduopus is the way Lyle show to avoid fat gain.
but it won't cause supercompesation(i.e hypertrofy) and it won't boost leptin enought.
so,I think it's a wrong way.
by the way,frequent very high carbs reefiding can slow fat loss.

do u have any tip to solve the problem(or the dilemma!).

thanks'
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