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Canadians! Tell Your Lactating Bitches To Feed Their Brood In Private

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Breast-feeding in a time of war

LISA FITTERMAN

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Monday, April 21, 2003
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What did the American male passenger think they were - weapons of mass distraction?

Apparently, yes.

Deborah Wolfe, a Canadian citizen who was just breast-feeding her son and changing his diaper while en route between Houston and Vancouver, says her "subversive" actions led to her being threatened with detainment, RCMP involvement and legal charges for terrorist action against a U.S. citizen in international airspace while on an American flight during a time of war.

Her story strains credulity, save that it's so outrageous, it's hard to imagine she could make this stuff up. It's Python-esque farce; funny, pathetic and much scarier than the experience of a woman who earlier this month was awarded $1,000 by the Quebec Human Rights Commission after a security guard kicked her out of a Montreal municipal courtroom for nursing her infant.

In an e-mail, Wolfe says it started during the final leg of a trip back to Vancouver from Florida, when a man seated near her on the Continental Airlines flight took offence to her nursing her 4-month-old son and complained.

Continental Airlines spokesman Rahsaan Johnson told me that the airline does not have a policy that prohibits breast-feeding on board. But Wolfe says a flight attendant told her that if someone - anyone - complains, the mothers are supposed to change diapers in the bathroom and nurse at the back of the plane. This has its own unpleasant connotations, never mind the fact that passengers must stay in their seats during takeoff, landing and turbulence.

Wolfe says she refused a flight attendant's offer of an airline blanket to hide herself because it hadn't been sealed and, given the SARS scare, she'd rather use her own things. Thus, unbeknownst to her, a "Level 1" crew complaint was filed.

When an announcement then came over the public address system stating that all mothers should change diapers in the plane's bathrooms, she decided to ignore it because she found the change table too high, right above the toilet and with nary a restraint to stop an infant from falling.

She says she explained all this to the flight attendant who came over for a second time, but the complaint, of which she was still unaware, was upgraded to Level 2.

Wolfe began to nurse the baby again, using her own bib and blanket. She says the man got out of his seat, walked over to hers and stood staring at her. She says she approached him afterward and twice asked if he had a problem with her feeding her son.

"He marched past me and to the very back of the cabin to talk to the flight attendant," she wrote. "He told her, 'This woman just assaulted me.' ... He then explained that the asking of two questions by a 'foreign national' in international airspace made him feel the victim of terror and as such he wanted to file an assault charge."

She says the flight attendants also began to call her and her travelling party "foreign nationals in international airspace on an international flight during a time of war." And she was informed both of the complaint and that it could be upgraded to a Level 3, which meant possible mandatory detainment by U.S. authorities for 24 hours, RCMP involvement and criminal charges for an act of war upon an American.

Give me a flipping break.

Johnson told me that Wolfe's version of the story is a lot different than that of the flight attendants and the man. He confirmed that she was issued a Level 1 complaint and threatened with Level 2 after she became "verbally aggressive with another customer on board while in the airplane's aisle." He says that a Level 2 complaint was never issued.

But know what? I don't care if Wolfe had a super-hissy, foot-stomping diva fit. She was only trying to care for her baby. As noted by Elisabeth Sterken, director of the Canadian division of the Infant Feeding Action Coalition, that is her inalienable right under both the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which Canada is a signatory.

("Holy cow," Sterken said. "Doesn't this just fry you?")

In the end, Wolfe says things were resolved when she signed a document promising that she would neither break Continental's rules about such things, nor speak to American passengers. To echo Sterken: Holy cow. After all, the U.S. is the same country that brought us the cheesy search for America's hottest person, made the semi-pornographic Maxim magazine a runaway success and recently became home to the niche airline Hooters. Named for the (in)famous restaurant chain, each flight features two well-endowed girls in tight T-shirts who give a whole new meaning to the concept of twin-engine props - and empty calories.

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this is obviously a very biased article (the montreal gazette), but it is the only one i could find.

i'm sorry, but i dont think some greasy, fat mama should be whipping her tits out next to me, while he spawn goes to town on them.

and changing their shit filled diaper in the seat next to me...yeah fucing right that would happen.
 
I think everytime somebody sees a woman breastfeeding her baby, that guy should take out his ding-a-ling and start playing around with it in front of her. When she gets offended and asks why they're doing that, the guy can say that because it's a natural thing to do in public as well.
 
NURSING SHOULD BE DONE IN PRIVATE.

IF I WAS ON A PLANE AND A LADY STARTED CHANGING A DIAPER NEXT TO ME, I WOULD SMACK HER IN THE FACE WITH THE SHITTY DIAPER. THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE RESTROOM.




KAYNE
 
Well, the diaper thing is nasty, no questoins about that. But if some hottie was breastfeeding next to me, I would just ask her if I can suck on her titties too..
 
In all my years (26), I've never seen a woman breast feeding in public. Or changing a diaper for that matter.

It's also legal for women to walk around topless here. That doesn't mean any actually do. :)
 
How come only ugly women breast feed in public????


I'd also like to know how come I only see ugly lesbians making out?
 
this chick started breatfeeding right in front of me (2 feet) in the library, last week. Then she got all in a huff when I started staring. Whatever
 
I guess I look at things a tad bit different.....

Have ANY of you been on a plane for over three hours and listened to a child cry THE ENTIRE TRIP? I have... I wanted to stuff this ladies kid in the overhead compartment after about an hour of his screaming! I love kids and that child got on my last nerve!

If breast feeding and changing their shitty diaper will keep 'em QUIET...Whip out the "teet" and change his shitty pants all ya want!

:)
 
Please explain the hypocrisy of the argument: it is OK for men to walk down the street dressed like Britney Spears, dressed in leather with the ass flaps removed, for people to have nearly every body part pierced, yet it is not OK for a mother to breastfeed her child. An act that is natural is not OK, but one that is purely done to show disdain towards others is OK.
 
I agree for the diaper part that just isnt righ to do in public as it disturbs other people for the odors, now for the breast feeding part, THATS NORMAL for gods sake ! I cant believe you guys are aganst mother nature, its not disgusting at all its LIFE !!

:mad:
 
p0ink said:
this is obviously a very biased article (the montreal gazette), but it is the only one i could find.

i'm sorry, but i dont think some greasy, fat mama should be whipping her tits out next to me, while he spawn goes to town on them.

and changing their shit filled diaper in the seat next to me...yeah fucing right that would happen.

holy crap I'm agreeing with poink!

There is an area on planes set aside for the express purpose of changing diapers. Human shit is a fucking BIOHAZARD. As in a real, recognised one. Seriously. An immune compromised (transplantee or sick old person) could be infected with NASTY things that way. The airline were correct.
 
She just best be given up that other teet for me to nibble on thats all I want! LMAO!!!

People need to chill out and get over themselves. Especially the pansy ass turd ball who felt uneasy about a woman breat feeding. What fucking idiot.
 
vixenbabe said:
I guess I look at things a tad bit different.....

Have ANY of you been on a plane for over three hours and listened to a child cry THE ENTIRE TRIP? I have... I wanted to stuff this ladies kid in the overhead compartment after about an hour of his screaming! I love kids and that child got on my last nerve!

If breast feeding and changing their shitty diaper will keep 'em QUIET...Whip out the "teet" and change his shitty pants all ya want!

:)

The easy answer here is for the woman not to take the child with her in the first place. All too often parents intrude on other people's lives with their child rearing. Screaming and defecating children are a nuisance to all of us.
 
I have two kids and it would be a cold day in Hell before anyone tried to stop his protein intake (breast feeding).
as for the changing the other passangers should be respected and done in the wash room.
 
ariolanine said:
The easy answer here is for the woman not to take the child with her in the first place. All too often parents intrude on other people's lives with their child rearing. Screaming and defecating children are a nuisance to all of us.

I had to take my lil girl across country before via plane. I had NO other option at the time. She was 7 months old when her first airlplane trip took place! She was too little to be able to tell her to "hush up". Thank God she was a good baby and was content with her "binky" and "blankey". I was happy that we had a smooth flight too when I had to take her in the back to change her poopy butt. I would have NEVER left my seat with her if it had been a bumpy flight- FACT! I could have made the headlines too I guess!

However, if Bri were ANYTHING like the child I was locked up with on the flight I spoke of... I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT DRINKS and a rental movie with those fancy earplugs for EVERYONE ON THE PLANE! It was even too much for this mom to handle after 3 hours!
 
vixenbabe said:


I had to take my lil girl across country before via plane. I had NO other option at the time. She was 7 months old when her first airlplane trip took place! She was too little to be able to tell her to "hush up". Thank God she was a good baby and was content with her "binky" and "blankey". I was happy that we had a smooth flight too when I had to take her in the back to change her poopy butt. I would have NEVER left my seat with her if it had been a bumpy flight- FACT! I could have made the headlines too I guess!

However, if Bri were ANYTHING like the child I was locked up with on the flight I spoke of... I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT DRINKS and a rental movie with those fancy earplugs for EVERYONE ON THE PLANE! It was even too much for this mom to handle after 3 hours!

There are too few considerate parents like yourself in this country.
 
2Thick said:
It is funny how most Americans do not believe in any type of freedom.

She should be able to do whatever she wants as long as it does not infringe on anyone else's rights.

If the diaper smelled very bad then that is bad.

If you do not like the breast feeding then look the other way.

well, if a homeless man ever sits next to you on a bus, and he starts masturbating and fingering his ass right next to you...i better not hear any complaints out of you. ;)
 
ariolanine said:
There are too few considerate parents like yourself in this country.

It's not about me being a parent...It's about respect for other's in general.:)

Poink....I must miss all the fun. I'd laugh my ass off if a homeless man whacked his shit in public. I need to get out more I guess...hehehe
 
I don't understand people. If you don't want to see something then do not look. What is so hard about that?

She probably should have asked or used the designated area but breastfeeding is hardly offensive. She is simply keeping the baby alive.
 
ariolanine said:


The easy answer here is for the woman not to take the child with her in the first place. All too often parents intrude on other people's lives with their child rearing. Screaming and defecating children are a nuisance to all of us.

Ummm...please show me where you have the "right not to bothered" in public? This hatred of children in Western society is a major factor in the acceptance of abortion.

Wouldn't the easier answer be for those who are bothered by life to kill themselves?
 
atlantabiolab said:


Ummm...please show me where you have the "right not to bothered" in public? This hatred of children in Western society is a major factor in the acceptance of abortion.

Wouldn't the easier answer be for those who are bothered by life to kill themselves?


I don't have the "right" and I never claimed that I did. I practice a long lost art known as "common courtesy." Parents that let their children run around screaming annoy me and they probably annoy you as well. People that have no respect for others have no respect for themselves and have no business raising children. You are probably one of those people so why don't you kill yourself instead and save us the headache.
 
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I wish more women would breast feed in front of me. I would either start masterbating in front of them as I watched, or move the baby out of the way and suckle the breast my self
 
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