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calcium carbonate (antacid)

gjohnson5

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I have been meaning to write this, but I've been too busy working, but here is something that I wanted to get some opinions on. The use of calcium carbonate as a calium supplement. I believe that continual use of calcium carbonate can have a negative impact on digestion
(link here) Also There is belief that shutting down stomach acid and stomach acid secretion with medications such as this cause ulcers and food allergies as described here over time due to foods being partially digested. Then the undigested food sits in the stomach and collects bacteria. The bacteria growth eats away stomach lining. Then the undigested food ferments in the stomach as described below:
http://allergies.about.com/b/a/025728.htm
http://www.starfishpartners.com/cmj/issue.php?issue=3

It may be a good idea to switch to taking calium citrate 3 times a day and not taking calcium carbonate as calcium citrate doesn't neutralize stomach acid. Calcium citrate renders less elemental calium thus probably should be taken 3 times a day. Do people here think it may be a good idea to drink orange juice (any juice will for that matter) forticied with ascorbic acid , betain hydrocloride w/pepsin and even some cider vinegar tabs just to decrease stomac ph with a meal?

Comments / Flames?
 
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gjohnson5 said:
I have been meaning to write this, but I've been too busy working, but here is something that I wanted to get some opinions on. The use of calcium carbonate as a calium supplement. I believe that continual use of calcium carbonate can have a negative impact on digestion
(link here) Also There is belief that shutting down stomach acid and stomach acid secretion with medications such as this cause ulcers and food allergies as described here over time due to foods being partially digested. Then they sit in your stomach and collecting bacteria and fermenting as described below:
http://allergies.about.com/b/a/025728.htm
http://www.starfishpartners.com/cmj/issue.php?issue=3

it may be a good idea to switch to taking calium citrate 3 times a day and not taking calcium carbonate as calcium citrate doesn't neutralize stomach acid. Calcium citrate renders less elemental calium thus probably should be taken 3 times a day. Do people here think it may be a good idea to drink orange juice (any juice will for that matter) forticied with ascorbic acid , betain hydrocloride w/pepsin and even some cider vinegar tabs just to decrease stomac ph with a meal?

Comments / Flames?

Just to point this out , there is alot of conflict over cider vinegar actual usefulness:
http://frugalliving.about.com/cs/tips/a/blvinmed_4.htm
and
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GCU/is_n6_v14/ai_20152545

The only use It may have as far as I can see is stomach/digestive health
 
Honestly, unless something in your diet has an extreme pH and is taken in large, concentrated quantities, attempting to manage stomach pH seems unnecessary; within reason, your body will handle what you put in it. Having said that, all other things being equal, taking a calcium supplement that doesn't have an undesired effect on stomach acid seems like a good way to go.

On a side note, taking vinegar (or any other source of acetate) with meals (especially PWO and higher-carb) is an excellent idea for its effects on nutrient partitioning. Here's a thread with more info than you could possibly want on this:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=2120&st=0
 
Cynical Simian said:
Honestly, unless something in your diet has an extreme pH and is taken in large, concentrated quantities, attempting to manage stomach pH seems unnecessary; within reason, your body will handle what you put in it. Having said that, all other things being equal, taking a calcium supplement that doesn't have an undesired effect on stomach acid seems like a good way to go.

On a side note, taking vinegar (or any other source of acetate) with meals (especially PWO and higher-carb) is an excellent idea for its effects on nutrient partitioning. Here's a thread with more info than you could possibly want on this:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=2120&st=0

Within reason of course... The idea is to ensure that we are getting proper nutrient dispersal from digestion and also as preventative steps for ulcer and food allergies. Eating foods with higher ph (coconut , aloe vera drink, fruits and veggies) on top of antacids which neutralize stomach acid may lead to digestive problems.
 
it may be a good idea to switch to taking calium citrate 3 times a day and not taking calcium carbonate as calcium citrate doesn't neutralize stomach acid. Calcium citrate renders less elemental calium thus probably should be taken 3 times a day. Do people here think it may be a good idea to drink orange juice (any juice will for that matter) forticied with ascorbic acid , betain hydrocloride w/pepsin and even some cider vinegar tabs just to decrease stomac ph with a meal?



November, 1999 issue of The Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, Howard J. Heller, MD and his colleagues compared the calcium absorption of Citracal (a calcium citrate formulation) and Os-Cal (a calcium carbonate one) after a single oral dose (500 mg calcium), taken with a meal. By measuring blood levels of calcium, they demonstrated that calcium citrate is 2.5 times more bioavailable (easier for your body to use) than calcium carbonate.

Calcium citrate is a bit more expensive, but may well be worth it if you can afford it.
 
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