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I ran a 60 day contest prep protocol. starting stats were
6'1" 270 10% Bf
So basically to get down to around 3-4 percent I had to drop abut 20 lbs + another 10-15 lbs water weight over the last few days to hit the stage at a ripped 235-240
I opted to use a few high androgenic compounds early on to maintain strength and muscle mass for the beggining then changing to less aromatizing drugs to keep water weight down and improve hardness and overall muscle quality going into the show
Sustanon 125mg days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Deca 125 mg days days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Primo 100 mg days 33,37,41,45,49,57
Winstrol 25 mg days 34-36,38-40, 42-44,46-48,50-56, 58-60
Tren 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59
Prop 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59


GH use was 1.5iu 2x daily days 1-40, 1.5iu 3xdaily days 41-53
T-3 use was done 2 days on 2 days off until the last 20 days, dose was 50 mcg days 1-40 on listed days, 75 mcg ED days 41-60
Adex was used at 1 mg ED
ECA and clen were rotated on a 2 day on 2 day off protocol throughout. 50 mg Ephedrine 2xdaily and 80-120 mcg clen on those days

DNP was used at a dose of 400 mg on days 1,8,15,22,29,36,43 in order to help keep receptor sites cleared and burn of fat stores


I weighed in at the USA's the morning of at 240 after dropping 8 lbs of water weight.


All in all I feel the cycle was excellent. Post cycle retention is good and I feel energetic. PCt is well under way and I feel great for getting going again next year!!


:beer:
 
That is an insane cycle. Wow. I guess when you're competing, cycles are like that.
 
lol!


ouch at the DNP, ECA, T3 and CLEN.

Wulfgar bro, you looked so sick for the competition bro. Just amazing. Big props to you for working so hard and being that dedicated. mucho respecto aqui.
 
thanks Wolfgar its nice to see how you built your stack up to comp. Its a pity we dont get more of this info for us aspiring competitors.
 
Wulfgar said:
I ran a 60 day contest prep protocol. starting stats were
6'1" 270 10% Bf
So basically to get down to around 3-4 percent I had to drop abut 20 lbs + another 10-15 lbs water weight over the last few days to hit the stage at a ripped 235-240
I opted to use a few high androgenic compounds early on to maintain strength and muscle mass for the beggining then changing to less aromatizing drugs to keep water weight down and improve hardness and overall muscle quality going into the show
Sustanon 125mg days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Deca 125 mg days days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Primo 100 mg days 33,37,41,45,49,57
Winstrol 25 mg days 34-36,38-40, 42-44,46-48,50-56, 58-60
Tren 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59
Prop 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59


GH use was 1.5iu 2x daily days 1-40, 1.5iu 3xdaily days 41-53
T-3 use was done 2 days on 2 days off until the last 20 days, dose was 50 mcg days 1-40 on listed days, 75 mcg ED days 41-60Adex was used at 1 mg ED
ECA and clen were rotated on a 2 day on 2 day off protocol throughout. 50 mg Ephedrine 2xdaily and 80-120 mcg clen on those days

DNP was used at a dose of 400 mg on days 1,8,15,22,29,36,43 in order to help keep receptor sites cleared and burn of fat stores

I weighed in at the USA's the morning of at 240 after dropping 8 lbs of water weight.


All in all I feel the cycle was excellent. Post cycle retention is good and I feel energetic. PCt is well under way and I feel great for getting going again next year!!


:beer:

one thing i want to point out--this is bro at the top of his competitive game---so dnp should only be considered by bros in his position-and even then....his dose was not excessive---noobs, the stuff can kill you

in the case of t-3 he still, at 240 lbs lean, did not exceed 75mgs for 2 weeks.

and exp notice he does not mention lasix or any diuretic--diet, water intake, and the right compounds eliminated the need--that is smart training and very smart prep.

winny at 25--and notice the rest of his total gear intake----calculated to spare muscle as he leaned out. no where does he mention a gram of anything--or even a gram total and not even halo to dry out.

note he also alternated eca/clen and did not exceed 120 of the clen---and he 6'1/270/10% bf.

what this demonstrates is this is not a game and you suceed if you are smart, not if you take the most gear and most outrageous drugs. he knew he may tax his kidneys and liver and avoided excess anything that may do damage.
 
Your adex dose drew my attention. You didnt use crazy amount of AAS that coverts to estrogen but you used 1mg adex ed.

The reason is to eliminate estrogen and get leaner easier right??? What is your dose on mass gaining cycles??

thanks
 
shyt nice and complex wulf ... i never seen dnp used in that manner interesting ..also nice to see u didnt use hgh at insane amounts like most people insist is needed
 
very interesting. You looked great in your pics on the other thread. 300 was the first thing I thought without using photoshop!
def a good post by eddy to tell the noobs this is for a very serious competitor and should be in anyones protocol for the basic cutter.
Great job wulfgar! what place did u get for the usa's and la?

what the bulker going to look like? thanks!
 
eddymerckx said:
one thing i want to point out--this is bro at the top of his competitive game---so dnp should only be considered by bros in his position-and even then....his dose was not excessive---noobs, the stuff can kill you

in the case of t-3 he still, at 240 lbs lean, did not exceed 75mgs for 2 weeks.

and exp notice he does not mention lasix or any diuretic--diet, water intake, and the right compounds eliminated the need--that is smart training and very smart prep.

winny at 25--and notice the rest of his total gear intake----calculated to spare muscle as he leaned out. no where does he mention a gram of anything--or even a gram total and not even halo to dry out.

note he also alternated eca/clen and did not exceed 120 of the clen---and he 6'1/270/10% bf.

what this demonstrates is this is not a game and you suceed if you are smart, not if you take the most gear and most outrageous drugs. he knew he may tax his kidneys and liver and avoided excess anything that may do damage.
In the case of my DNP use. I have some very strigent rules about DNP. As I do feel it can be very useful if used CORRECTLY. I know many guys take upwards of 7 or 8 mg per Kg of BW. I think this is a huge mistake and prefer to keep my doses between 3-5 mg per kg BW. In this particular case here was the main reason for my DNP use this time.
1. I was doing a CKD program and my very high carb days led to a massive surge of insulin(these were also my DNP days). There is a very profound synergy between high insulin levels and the presence of DNP. basically DNP aids in inducing an environment of insulin resistance in fat sites. in turn increasing caloric expenditure, increasing glucose transport(in muscle by about 200%) and decreasing fat cell gluttony. There is some more science behind it but thats is basically why I was doing it.


2. T-3 was mainly used in direct correlation to my GH use. since high GH levels tend to supress T-3 production. In my case, eating roughly 500 G protein daily I needed to keep my thyroid high in order to properly keep my metabolism working to assimilate the food and maintain muscle mass. I always let my GH use dictate the amount of T-3 I use. Not the other way around. On a side note without GH I will NEVER go above 50 mcg of T-3 in a 2 on 2 off protocol.

3. I did not use any Diuretics. I had some dyazide on hand but did not feel the need. I just manipulated my water and salt intake to drop the excess sodium.

4. I like winstrol as a hardening agent. I felt that with the other compounds I was taking as well as my attention to detail in my sodium/potassium water intake I did not need anymore than about 150 mg total weekly of winstrol. I dont think my cycle ever went over 600 mg a week total of AAS. except for maybe the last week. IMHO there is no need to use massive amounts of compounds during a prep because the body isnt getting in enough calories to grow from it all so much is wasted.

5. I like the rotation of Beta stimulators. I notice a much longer period of effectiveness wthout the side effects of blasting a particular compound for too long. Also I know the T-3,DNP, and GH helped to keep my adrenal receptors fresh.

6. I am a firm beleiver in health. My basic supplements included cranberry extract, milk thistle, red rice yeast, CoQ10, Niacine and ggugulsterones for kidney, liver and heart health. I will go get a blood panel done next week to judge how much longer Ill need to continue PCT
 
The last time I saw pics of you was b4 I went down range 15 months ago and I can see the huge improvement. And then pics of you from two years ago...holy crap bro...You have done such a great job.

It's always good to see good bros (pros) like you post up cycles for aspiring competitors.
:Chef: :tuc:
 
Wulfgar said:
I ran a 60 day contest prep protocol. starting stats were
6'1" 270 10% Bf
So basically to get down to around 3-4 percent I had to drop abut 20 lbs + another 10-15 lbs water weight over the last few days to hit the stage at a ripped 235-240
I opted to use a few high androgenic compounds early on to maintain strength and muscle mass for the beggining then changing to less aromatizing drugs to keep water weight down and improve hardness and overall muscle quality going into the show
Sustanon 125mg days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Deca 125 mg days days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Primo 100 mg days 33,37,41,45,49,57
Winstrol 25 mg days 34-36,38-40, 42-44,46-48,50-56, 58-60
Tren 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59
Prop 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59


GH use was 1.5iu 2x daily days 1-40, 1.5iu 3xdaily days 41-53
T-3 use was done 2 days on 2 days off until the last 20 days, dose was 50 mcg days 1-40 on listed days, 75 mcg ED days 41-60
Adex was used at 1 mg ED
ECA and clen were rotated on a 2 day on 2 day off protocol throughout. 50 mg Ephedrine 2xdaily and 80-120 mcg clen on those days

DNP was used at a dose of 400 mg on days 1,8,15,22,29,36,43 in order to help keep receptor sites cleared and burn of fat stores


I weighed in at the USA's the morning of at 240 after dropping 8 lbs of water weight.


All in all I feel the cycle was excellent. Post cycle retention is good and I feel energetic. PCt is well under way and I feel great for getting going again next year!!


:beer:

I love it, that's beautiful bro..

You think the DNP did much spread out like that?
 
Wulfgar said:
In the case of my DNP use. I have some very strigent rules about DNP. As I do feel it can be very useful if used CORRECTLY. I know many guys take upwards of 7 or 8 mg per Kg of BW. I think this is a huge mistake and prefer to keep my doses between 3-5 mg per kg BW. In this particular case here was the main reason for my DNP use this time.
1. I was doing a CKD program and my very high carb days led to a massive surge of insulin(these were also my DNP days). There is a very profound synergy between high insulin levels and the presence of DNP. basically DNP aids in inducing an environment of insulin resistance in fat sites. in turn increasing caloric expenditure, increasing glucose transport(in muscle by about 200%) and decreasing fat cell gluttony. There is some more science behind it but thats is basically why I was doing it.


2. T-3 was mainly used in direct correlation to my GH use. since high GH levels tend to supress T-3 production. In my case, eating roughly 500 G protein daily I needed to keep my thyroid high in order to properly keep my metabolism working to assimilate the food and maintain muscle mass. I always let my GH use dictate the amount of T-3 I use. Not the other way around. On a side note without GH I will NEVER go above 50 mcg of T-3 in a 2 on 2 off protocol.

3. I did not use any Diuretics. I had some dyazide on hand but did not feel the need. I just manipulated my water and salt intake to drop the excess sodium.

4. I like winstrol as a hardening agent. I felt that with the other compounds I was taking as well as my attention to detail in my sodium/potassium water intake I did not need anymore than about 150 mg total weekly of winstrol. I dont think my cycle ever went over 600 mg a week total of AAS. except for maybe the last week. IMHO there is no need to use massive amounts of compounds during a prep because the body isnt getting in enough calories to grow from it all so much is wasted.

5. I like the rotation of Beta stimulators. I notice a much longer period of effectiveness wthout the side effects of blasting a particular compound for too long. Also I know the T-3,DNP, and GH helped to keep my adrenal receptors fresh.

6. I am a firm beleiver in health. My basic supplements included cranberry extract, milk thistle, red rice yeast, CoQ10, Niacine and ggugulsterones for kidney, liver and heart health. I will go get a blood panel done next week to judge how much longer Ill need to continue PCT


new bros learn from what you read--this is the difference between use and abuse---nothing is half-assed or not done for a specific reason and within specific parameters. nothing magic here, just solid research and thought---this is where you want to be.
 
tonns of great info here and a few important lessons to be learned, great post!
 
looking at the steroid cycle and the days you used,
once you break it down and lay it out over the entire cycle
it is actually a very moderate cycle , no where near heavy usage
in my opinion ( atleast on a nationals level ) compared to what many others have run and are running that have a physic no where as nice as your physic
 
chazk said:
looking at the steroid cycle and the days you used,
once you break it down and lay it out over the entire cycle
it is actually a very moderate cycle , no where near heavy usage
in my opinion ( atleast on a nationals level ) compared to what many others have run and are running that have a physic no where as nice as your physic
thanks man. I appreciate the compliments

Honestly I think its all about growth thresholds. Why utilize extremely high doses when the body is in a caloric deficiet? my goal during contest prep is to rid myself of excess bodyfat and add quality to my physique. I see no reason to use massive doses of AAS over long periods of time when the calories just are not there for me to grow.

anyone ever tried growing while dieting? trust me, unless your name is kevin Levrone its pretty much not going to work out very well for you. lol
 
eddymerckx said:
new bros learn from what you read--this is the difference between use and abuse---nothing is half-assed or not done for a specific reason and within specific parameters. nothing magic here, just solid research and thought---this is where you want to be.

That wulfgar guy is Elite Mentor material, huh Eddy?? :D
 
Very surprised to not see any halo or masteron in there...but shit, when you got Fina, you got FIRE!!!!!
Very nice approach my man..
 
Thank you Wulfgar for posting and Eddy for making very valid points about Wulfgar's conscientious use of AAS and both of you for your comentaries. Wulfar 6'1" 270 lbs. at 10% BF you ARE a beast!!!!!!

Now Wulfgar, about that bulking cycle...
 
flex2win said:
Very surprised to not see any halo or masteron in there...but shit, when you got Fina, you got FIRE!!!!!
Very nice approach my man..
I really didnt see the need
at 30 days out I assessed my physqiue and figured if I was behind schedule for fat loss I would of layered in the masteron
I am truly not a big fan of Halotestin. it eats livers for breakfast and I dont feel I am advanced enough yet to warrant using it.
 
lookinfit75 said:
Thank you Wulfgar for posting and Eddy for making very valid points about Wulfgar's conscientious use of AAS and both of you for your comentaries. Wulfar 6'1" 270 lbs. at 10% BF you ARE a beast!!!!!!

Now Wulfgar, about that bulking cycle...
Agree ^^ this is the site working at its best. +1 about that bulking cycle, Wulfgar :p
 
chazk said:
looking at the steroid cycle and the days you used,
once you break it down and lay it out over the entire cycle
it is actually a very moderate cycle , no where near heavy usage
in my opinion ( atleast on a nationals level ) compared to what many others have run and are running that have a physic no where as nice as your physic

I thought the same exact thing.
 
nzrodney said:
Agree ^^ this is the site working at its best. +1 about that bulking cycle, Wulfgar :p
I am still piecing together my mass phase

basically it will consist of running about 4 weeks of AAS(utilizing heavy Androgenic compounds first and tapering to higher anabolic compounds), 4 weeks of non-AAS type anabolic agents(GH, T-3, creatine, etc...) and 4 weeks of cortisol/estrogen control all layered in to about 6-8 weeks and Ill repeat the process a few times until I feel ive gained sufficient mass

my goal is to compete again in March of 09 and qualify for national level shows again and then do the nationals in Nov of 2010
I feel to be competitive with the guys in the SHW class at nationals I will need to get up to about 310 @ 10% and diet down to a shredded 265.
 
are those first 4 weeks going to be a short ester like prop/suspension and nnp.
that crazy and much too complicated for 99% of the bro's on here. good luck to you in the future!
 
Wulfgar said:
I am still piecing together my mass phase

basically it will consist of running about 4 weeks of AAS(utilizing heavy Androgenic compounds first and tapering to higher anabolic compounds), 4 weeks of non-AAS type anabolic agents(GH, T-3, creatine, etc...) and 4 weeks of cortisol/estrogen control all layered in to about 6-8 weeks and Ill repeat the process a few times until I feel ive gained sufficient mass

my goal is to compete again in March of 09 and qualify for national level shows again and then do the nationals in Nov of 2010
I feel to be competitive with the guys in the SHW class at nationals I will need to get up to about 310 @ 10% and diet down to a shredded 265.


What do you prefer to use for your cortisol control?
 
sweed said:
are those first 4 weeks going to be a short ester like prop/suspension and nnp.
that crazy and much too complicated for 99% of the bro's on here. good luck to you in the future!
Possibly Ill use short esters. Still not sure. If i dont have to take hits every day for 28 days i wont..lol

It might be something like 250 mg Sustanon days 1-7, Deca 300 mg days 8-12. simple, yet very effective

I also like mixing different test esters to try to control blood plasma levels as well as possible.
 
Burpees said:
What do you prefer to use for your cortisol control?
If I cant do it with OTC stuff Ill probably use a biosynthesis inhibitor like cytadren in a 2 day on 2 day off protocol.
 
One of the most important things.. was did the diet look like for the first part and the last part. I am sure it was very different from the beginning of the diet to the last few days, could you give a short example please! :)
 
eddymerckx said:
one thing i want to point out--this is bro at the top of his competitive game---so dnp should only be considered by bros in his position-and even then....his dose was not excessive---noobs, the stuff can kill you

in the case of t-3 he still, at 240 lbs lean, did not exceed 75mgs for 2 weeks.

and exp notice he does not mention lasix or any diuretic--diet, water intake, and the right compounds eliminated the need--that is smart training and very smart prep.


note he also alternated eca/clen and did not exceed 120 of the clen---and he 6'1/270/10% bf.

what this demonstrates is this is not a game and you suceed if you are smart, not if you take the most gear and most outrageous drugs. he knew he may tax his kidneys and liver and avoided excess anything that may do damage.

If Wulfgar can do it then so can I! Thanks Wulfgar, I am not going to take exactly what you did without any research at all! If only I knew Cutler's stack...

JK Eddy.

Wulfgar...you have pics posted or what?
 
Wulfgar said:
I am still piecing together my mass phase

basically it will consist of running about 4 weeks of AAS(utilizing heavy Androgenic compounds first and tapering to higher anabolic compounds), 4 weeks of non-AAS type anabolic agents(GH, T-3, creatine, etc...) and 4 weeks of cortisol/estrogen control all layered in to about 6-8 weeks and Ill repeat the process a few times until I feel ive gained sufficient mass

my goal is to compete again in March of 09 and qualify for national level shows again and then do the nationals in Nov of 2010
I feel to be competitive with the guys in the SHW class at nationals I will need to get up to about 310 @ 10% and diet down to a shredded 265.
So over 8 weeks you are using a short shock type protocol combined with peptides & T3 & then a short PCT. I guess you will be switching around compounds in the first 6 weeks & then just stabilising that work to see how you are going. I'm very interested in that concept. Have you ran this type of short cycle before & how effective was it? Bro thanks for your input. I can understand that this is something that you prefer not to share every detail with. I'm sure many here wil appreciate your comments & I would like to wish you well in your endevours. Just dont forget us here on EF when you are standing in the lineup at Mr O 2012 :rainbow:
 
Wulfgar said:
If I cant do it with OTC stuff Ill probably use a biosynthesis inhibitor like cytadren in a 2 day on 2 day off protocol.

Are you going to share your PCT, or do you not come off? Sorry if I missed it.
 
nzrodney said:
So over 8 weeks you are using a short shock type protocol combined with peptides & T3 & then a short PCT. I guess you will be switching around compounds in the first 6 weeks & then just stabilising that work to see how you are going. I'm very interested in that concept. Have you ran this type of short cycle before & how effective was it? Bro thanks for your input. I can understand that this is something that you prefer not to share every detail with. I'm sure many here wil appreciate your comments & I would like to wish you well in your endevours. Just dont forget us here on EF when you are standing in the lineup at Mr O 2012 :rainbow:
Yes Ive used this type of protocol before. This show prep was my first time utilizing GH. I think short cycles are the most efffective route for being able to safely gain muscle and minimize sides. I may experiment with insulin too this year. i have not made up my mind yet.
 
Wulfgar said:
Yes Ive used this type of protocol before. This show prep was my first time utilizing gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - . I think short cycles are the most efffective route for being able to safely gain muscle and minimize sides. I may experiment with insulin too this year. i have not made up my mind yet.
Awesome posts thus far and you just solidified my thoughts about short cycles! Thank you so much. I can't wait to check out your short mass cycle to study it. Either way, I don't think I'll ever do a 12 week cyle like I just did again. I just wish I would have had this information before I started haha. Oh well, better late than never. How much time off will take off between these shorter cyles?
 
lookinfit75 said:
Awesome posts thus far and you just solidified my thoughts about short cycles! Thank you so much. I can't wait to check out your short mass cycle to study it. Either way, I don't think I'll ever do a 12 week cyle like I just did again. I just wish I would have had this information before I started haha. Oh well, better late than never. How much time off will take off between these shorter cyles?
I take consistant blood work readings to see where my insulin/cholesterol/lipid/liver/ etc. levles are at the tail end of any of my burst cycles(for 100$ its worth it!)
basically if all my levels check out Ill dive right in to another cycle, if not Ill take the steps necessary to normalize my health before I decide to run again.
this is actually a new policy Ive adopted. In the past I would typically completely come off everything for months at a time. If I was not competitive I probably still would do that just to not have to constantly worry about timing all the chemistry. lol

Also I always do a mental eval to make sure I am prepared for the mental/emotional/physical stresses that a steroid cycle inavoidably brings. If everything checks out and i get the green light I am balls out till the stop date.
 
Wulfgar said:
I take consistant blood work readings to see where my insulin/cholesterol/lipid/liver/ etc. levles are at the tail end of any of my burst cycles(for 100$ its worth it!)
basically if all my levels check out Ill dive right in to another cycle, if not Ill take the steps necessary to normalize my health before I decide to run again.
this is actually a new policy Ive adopted. In the past I would typically completely come off everything for months at a time. If I was not competitive I probably still would do that just to not have to constantly worry about timing all the chemistry. lol

Also I always do a mental eval to make sure I am prepared for the mental/emotional/physical stresses that a steroid cycle inavoidably brings. If everything checks out and i get the green light I am balls out till the stop date.
That is so true. Erring on the side of caution as you do is the way I think things should be done as well. There is nothing wrong with being cautious as this IS your health we are talking about here so in the end, you'll be a healthy man a lot longer and probably more competitive than most later on in your career as a result of vigilance and circumspection. I never thought about a mental evaluation but you are right, not only do we go through physical changes, we go through psychological changes as well so that would be a prudent thing to do.
I have one question for you about growth hormone. I've heard that it can be used to help heal quicker from injuries and help heal joints as well. Is there any truth to that? I ask because I do have some shoulder issues and was wondering if in small dosages, gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - would work for me.
Anyway, thanks once again for the posts.
 
wow! Thanks for posting this. It is nice to see a cycle laid out like this and to also see your results. This is great info to have.
 
I ran a 60 day contest prep protocol. starting stats were
6'1" 270 10% Bf
So basically to get down to around 3-4 percent I had to drop abut 20 lbs + another 10-15 lbs water weight over the last few days to hit the stage at a ripped 235-240
I opted to use a few high androgenic compounds early on to maintain strength and muscle mass for the beggining then changing to less aromatizing drugs to keep water weight down and improve hardness and overall muscle quality going into the show
Sustanon 125mg days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Deca 125 mg days days 1,9,13,17,21,25,29,33,37,41
Primo 100 mg days 33,37,41,45,49,57
Winstrol 25 mg days 34-36,38-40, 42-44,46-48,50-56, 58-60
Tren 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59
Prop 50 mg days 45,47,49,51,53,55,57,59


GH use was 1.5iu 2x daily days 1-40, 1.5iu 3xdaily days 41-53
T-3 use was done 2 days on 2 days off until the last 20 days, dose was 50 mcg days 1-40 on listed days, 75 mcg ED days 41-60
Adex was used at 1 mg ED
ECA and clen were rotated on a 2 day on 2 day off protocol throughout. 50 mg Ephedrine 2xdaily and 80-120 mcg clen on those days

DNP was used at a dose of 400 mg on days 1,8,15,22,29,36,43 in order to help keep receptor sites cleared and burn of fat stores


I weighed in at the USA's the morning of at 240 after dropping 8 lbs of water weight.


All in all I feel the cycle was excellent. Post cycle retention is good and I feel energetic. PCt is well under way and I feel great for getting going again next year!!


:beer:

If this log is over I would like to move it to best of ef bro? let me know.
 
No doubt gets my vote for best of EF...This is a great post and we need to see more of this stuff from guys competing...

thanks again wulfgar this post will definatly help me out on what i was planning on next.
 
Hey Wulfgar what is it you said about DNP and keeping your receptors clear? I'm not looking into DNP but does it free up receptors and make gear more effective? At what point and to what degree? Just curious guy!
 
Hey Wulfgar what is it you said about DNP and keeping your receptors clear? I'm not looking into DNP but does it free up receptors and make gear more effective? At what point and to what degree? Just curious guy!

DNP helps to clear saturated receptor sites by its very nature of being a oxidative protein uncoupler

I find after a 5 day DNP cycle using 5mg per kg BW of DNP the effectiveness of whatever compound i use afterwards is magnified.

Obviously sensitivity to anabolic growth factors( insulin,AAS, Thyroid and others) is paramount to success
 
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