Bridging with Test/Gyno possibilties

[badazzwhitedude]

For some of you guys who never completely come off, and bridge with test, say around 100-200 mg a week between hitting it hard, do you guys use anti-e's with that small of an amount? Even though it is a very small amount for building muscle, it is still considerably more than your natural production, and I was wondering if prolonged use of such an amount could possibly cause gyno in the long run. What do some of you guys think? Pros or mods?

 

[badazzwhitedude]

Bump. Someone must have an opinion or experience. I am thinking of doing this myself.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

Part of the feedback loop that shuts down natural test is because of higher estrogen levels. While an anti-estro won't prevent shutdown at effective doses of test, maybe it would do something at a low dose.

Anti-estros by themselves can elevate your natural test (there is an abstract where armidex use resulted in higher natural test levels). Again, this is because part of the feedback loop is blocked.

I stopped my last cycle short almost a month ago because I was getting gyno. I have stayed on armidex and clomid in the hope that it would shrink down the nips some. A side effect of staying on the armidex is it seemed like I got my natural test production back twice as fast (as opposed using clomid only). Really it is sorta weird... I haven't lost any size and feel good.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

Very interesting. That is what I thought. Even at low dosages for building muscle, it is still much higher than natural levels, and estrogen levels would also be higher, and in turn, with prolonged use, could lead to gyno. So if I decide to stay on year round, it would be wise to constantly use arimidex even at the lower dosages. Thanks for the input.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

"it is not good to always be on arimidex. It is very bad for the cholesterol and can make you feel kind of tired and moody."


yeah, I'm sorta concerned the cholesterol thing. Does nolva or clomid have this effect too?

Also which would cause less estrogen rebound: tapering off armidex or tapering off nolva or clomid?

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

cool. I'll taper off the armidex and then take a very low dose of nolva for a little while.