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Brainstorming with our customer: "What products do you want guys?" - Rewards!

Big Rick Rock

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Guys,


I will reward any of you that help us come up with an idea that leads us to another hit product from N2BM...

As many of you can tell, N2BM has been going through many changes lately, both in how the brand looks, and product mix. One of the things we have been wondering abut recently is the next steps that we need to take and the next problems we need to solve for our customers to keep buying from us.

Every product we sell, is nothing but a solution to a problem. Your balls are getting small? here is some HCGenerate. You are feeling like shit during cycle and can feel your blood pressure rise and face getting red? - Here is N2 Guard. Oh, you are off cycle, and need something strong to keep you making gains? - Here is Bridge. Oh no! it is May and beach season is here! What to do? Here is: N2 Flame, N2 Burn, N2 Slin and N2 Stim - Take your pick or combine them, they are all here! - Oh no! I'm mid cycle feeling Gyno creeping up and don't have an Anti-Estrogen! - Take some D-Spark... Wow cycle is going awesome but WTF is going on with my hair? I'm starting to thin! - N2 Shampoo to the rescue will stop that roid-induced thinning from the first day of use!

So what is your problem?

What issue can we help you solve with our products?

There are so many wonderful things that can be done with chemicals, herbs and compounds that it is quite amazing how we have literally thousands of different compounds both organic and synthetic that we can utilize to solve many problems plaguing our customers, we just need to know what you guys worry about.

Post up some ideas on problem that need a good bottle full of pills... N2BM is committed to fulfilling the needs of the HARDCORE Bodybuilding community. If you guys have questions or problems, you know that N2BM has your solution and answers!


Help us build a better brand by telling us exactly what you need from our company in order to make us your #1 source for Bodybuilding and Health Supplements. We are here for you and only continue to be in business because of you, so please let us know what supplement you need us to make for you.



-BRR
 
Would be nice too see a powerful dopamine aganist / anti prolactin product so we don't have to deal with the sides of prami or be worried about getting bunk caber
 
Best would be... A new SD clone! That would be sooooooo amazing
 
I don't know if its possible but it would be nice for us international buyers to be able to combine shipping from mr supps and ntbm. Perhaps stock some of the ph's and forma? For the Ntbm site perhaps a product like eviscerate?
 
I would love to see some package deals or stacks of products that commonly are used together. For example you ha ve traditionally offered the unleashed/post combo. Why not do a pct stack with those two, methyl, daa, etc. A similar stack could be done for on cycle with hcgenerate and n2guard and gear and n2slin and other such goodies. And a natty stack of dspark and bridge etc.

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A topical anti-gyno product that could be used for flare ups, or even proactively. I know Forma Stanzol can be used for this, but I'm thinking something focused on just the target concern.
 
buddhabuilder said:
A topical anti-gyno product that could be used for flare ups, or even proactively. I know Forma Stanzol can be used for this, but I'm thinking something focused on just the target concern.
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Duuuuuude! Yessss
 
The end all OTC test booster. There are thousands of test boosters out there. Even mrsupps/n2 has multiple products. I would love to see one with all of the big hitters in it. Bulbine, Chrysin, Fadogia, Fenugreek, the new DAA, Long jack etc and update the formula as new stuff emerges. Same with the fat burners.
 
Your own brand of research chemicals.. so it can be your one stop shop..

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Rustilldown said:
Would be nice too see a powerful dopamine aganist / anti prolactin product so we don't have to deal with the sides of prami or be worried about getting bunk caber
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Nelson Montana has something in the works called Low_prolact - we've talked about it numerous times.
 
Raff said:
Best would be... A new SD clone! That would be sooooooo amazing
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I know a ProH that is legal right now that works as awesome as Beastdrol, and still legal. We may do a run of that, but I doubt we'll sell ProHs ever again.
 
digit0x said:
The end all OTC test booster. There are thousands of test boosters out there. Even mrsupps/n2 has multiple products. I would love to see one with all of the big hitters in it. Bulbine, Chrysin, Fadogia, Fenugreek, the new DAA, Long jack etc and update the formula as new stuff emerges. Same with the fat burners.
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I have two big formulas like that sitting on my desk right now. Mehtly-Spark and HMGenesis... To put the big hitters in these it raises production costs so much that I'm wondering if you guys will understand the value of getting 5 bottle of Supps, in one big bottle at a price with big value... HCGenerate ES will let me know if the market is ready to understand a product like that.



-Big Rick Rock
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I have two big formulas like that sitting on my desk right now. Mehtly-Spark and HMGenesis... To put the big hitters in these it raises production costs so much that I'm wondering if you guys will understand the value of getting 5 bottle of Supps, in one big bottle at a price with big value... HCGenerate ES will let me know if the market is ready to understand a product like that.



-Big Rick Rock
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I completely understand. I for one would definitely shell out. HCGen ES is out of stock though isn't it? Didn't you guys sell out fast?
 
BRR,

Don't know why I didn't mention this one first, something I've been looking for for quite some time: a women's test booster. Something that gives them the boost in the gym as well as in the bed. Something birth control safe (i believe chrysin and some other anti SHBG agent counters BC) that doesn't demolish estrogen either.


Woman strong, woman safe.

I've got other idea's but these two are right up your ally. I'm excited to hear you've got the bigger badder formulas already drawn too.
 
High quality Omega 3s. Very important and yet underated supp for all around use. Very few people take advantage of this and those that do use crap brands of low quality. Take a look at Carlons 2400mg MegaDose. That is one - if not THE - best brand on the market now but a bit pricey for the average person. (Best of all, no "fishy" taste to it or burp ups later)
 
Oh yeah... regular standard BCAA caps. None of this chewable kind that leaves your teeth feeling like you need to shave them.
 
digit0x said:
BRR,

Don't know why I didn't mention this one first, something I've been looking for for quite some time: a women's test booster. Something that gives them the boost in the gym as well as in the bed. Something birth control safe (i believe chrysin and some other anti SHBG agent counters BC) that doesn't demolish estrogen either.


Woman strong, woman safe.

I've got other idea's but these two are right up your ally. I'm excited to hear you've got the bigger badder formulas already drawn too.
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We have some products now that would work awesome on chicks, maybe even been stronger than what most women are willing to take. RS Transaderm comes to mind as something a woman could use and gain awesome results from it. I personally and other guys I know reported their GF/wife becoming much more interested in sex while they are taking RS Transaderm. Please don't misunderstand, it is NOT the Girl taking the RS Transa, it is the guy, and the chick gets a tiny dose of it from touching her man during sex. One girl I know strangely became a squirter from just getting RS Transa rubbed off on her.

The effects are not immediate for them, but after the 2nd or 3rd day they can really feel it.



-BRR
 
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Something like N2guard and forged joint repair but mixed together in one bottle/capsule.

Something to deal with test, cortizol, estrogen and prolactin...

A testbooster that covers EVERY BASE I mean everything. Dont get me wrong everything offered is great but imagine unleashed/dspark/hcgenerate es all of the great test boosters into one cock throbbin' capsule that eliminates the need to take 3 or 4 others.

Beastdrol v2.0

Get the GOOD protien flavors consistantly in stock.

Daa with creatine flavorless to mix with morning shakes.

combine the n2bm store and mr. supps. I want a one stop shop. Making orders from multiple stores is annoying and inconvienant.

Keep the coupons flowing. Every time I get a 30% +off coupon I drop some coin.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
We have some products now that would work awesome on chicks, maybe even been stronger than what most women are willing to take. RS Transaderm comes to mind as something a woman could use and gain awesome results from it. I personally and other guys I know reported their GF/wife becoming much more interested in sex while they are taking RS Transaderm. Please don't misunderstand, it is NOT the Girl taking the RS Transa, it is the guy, and the chick gets a tiny dose of it from touching her man during sex. One girl I know strangely became a squirter from just getting RS Transa rubbed off on her.

The effects are not immediate for them, but after the 2nd or 3rd day they can really feel it.



-BRR
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Good to know!
 
What about an anti anxiety suitable for hardcore guys? A nice blend of passionflower, GABA, etc. that doesn't put the user to sleep, yet allows them to remain calm on cycle/during pct/using beta agonists and stims...N2Calm!

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Fishak said:
Something like N2guard and forged joint repair but mixed together in one bottle/capsule.

Something to deal with test, cortizol, estrogen and prolactin...

A testbooster that covers EVERY BASE I mean everything. Dont get me wrong everything offered is great but imagine unleashed/dspark/hcgenerate es all of the great test boosters into one cock throbbin' capsule that eliminates the need to take 3 or 4 others.

Beastdrol v2.0

Get the GOOD protien flavors consistantly in stock.

Daa with creatine flavorless to mix with morning shakes.

combine the n2bm store and mr. supps. I want a one stop shop. Making orders from multiple stores is annoying and inconvienant.

Keep the coupons flowing. Every time I get a 30% +off coupon I drop some coin.
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^ Good post. And very true about the coupons
 
A topical forma + dhea product at an affordable price. Leave out the extra ingredients. A strong dosed product with only these ingredients would be the shit.

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20 mg var caps mixed with some N2guard in the same cap????? No? okay. You sure? You could call it Dibencozide or Vanadyl lol...FDA wont mess with you lolololol.




Seriously BRR....

The HMGenesis sounds very interesting. If you want some test dummies for the natty test boosters....I get full bloods done every 3 months and would happily give you some before and after bloods to prove how much it works. Sign me up.
 
AGAIN, i can say this a million times "NO OFFENSE" to N2....BUT How are you asking what we want to see when stock of protein and supps we take now are hardly ever in stock??? I would think get protein stock and rest of supps stock in order BEFORE trying to make another supplement that we may like and that to will be out of stock if it cant be kept in stock........Sorry to complain but i love N2 stuff but cant get it regularly.....always out of stock.....protein etc....... just my 2cents
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I have two big formulas like that sitting on my desk right now. Mehtly-Spark and HMGenesis... To put the big hitters in these it raises production costs so much that I'm wondering if you guys will understand the value of getting 5 bottle of Supps, in one big bottle at a price with big value... HCGenerate ES will let me know if the market is ready to understand a product like that.



-Big Rick Rock
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I would love something like this and I would be more than willing to shell out the cash for it. Especially since if you add up the $ of the multiple different bottles of product that we already purchase. It would make sense.
 
Transdermal a work very well. Take a look into transdermal magnesium. I've seen multiple accounts of this products raising DHEA significantly. Maybe your own spin off of it. I'd rather buy it from you guys
 
JINX2898 said:
AGAIN, i can say this a million times "NO OFFENSE" to N2....BUT How are you asking what we want to see when stock of protein and supps we take now are hardly ever in stock??? I would think get protein stock and rest of supps stock in order BEFORE trying to make another supplement that we may like and that to will be out of stock if it cant be kept in stock........Sorry to complain but i love N2 stuff but cant get it regularly.....always out of stock.....protein etc....... just my 2cents
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Jinx,

Thank You for you feedback bro. Listening to you guys and learning from what you guys want is the only thing that has made N2BM what it is today. YOU guys, the customers to give us your feedback and let us know what you want out of our company, we only have you all to Thank for allowing us to work in this industry that we love.

That being said: I think you can agree that for the last 4-5 months, N2BM has done a much better job at keeping products in stock than ever before. We have not been out of any products this year, and the one time we ran out of HCGenerate it happened for about 3 days, and we got some more stuff in. I knew stock replenishment was a problem for a long time specially witht he protein in our store. So as far as the top sellers, I think you guys can all agree you always find what you need, in stock and ready to ship.

When it comes to the protein, We don't really make any money on the protein, for a long time we actually lost money on it, and foolishly reinvested money that should have went to restocking the top products, into this money losing pit called protein. Look, N2BM is still a very small company we don't sell more than 100 - 200 bags of protein per month, our orders are so tiny that the manufacturers rape us on prices. Not only that but we have done such a good job at losing money on this protein while other places make money selling it expensive and charging shipping, that the customers get very upset when they can't have their 5lbs bags of protein that we ship free via 3-day mail and give a permanent 10% discount and some times more...
Protein has be come a double edge problem for us, as customers now are super pissed at me for not restocking the protein, but what happens if we make a big investment into protein is we run out of funds to restock the top sellers like HCGenerate and N2 Guard? Well then you guys get even more pissed at us... Look guys, I'm working on a set up where I can sell you guys the protein at even $0 profits, as long as I'm not losing money on it, and I have you guys word that you will keep buying it from N2BM. I will keep huge tubs of this protein in stock for you guys always and I'll be willing to let it go out the door at 0%-3% margins, just because I want you guys to quit sending me hate mail over your protein, and make you happy too. We are working on setting up "The Protein Club" where you guys get a monthly call from our sales rep Sean to confirm your protein order for the month. You guys will get it dirt cheap as long as you keep buying it every month, that way at least we can forecast how much we will need... I think with all the hate messages I've received about bringing back this protein that we lose money on, it is a fair deal to ask the customers to commit to picking up at least one tub from us every 30-60 days to keep getting it cheap. Basically guys, I'm not really selling this protein to make money, I will just utilize the channels I have now to get it for you guys dirt cheap as a service to all of you who have made N2BM what it is. It's my way of hooking it up for you all who've been so loyal.

we are replenishing the current protein stock and should be in about 4 weeks, then we will be switching the presentation of our protein to 7.5lbs tubs, that we will sell very cheap...
 
Brr,

Us guys who cycle are constantly buying all our supports, pct ect. Why not put together the ultimate cycle package that includes EVERYTHING a guy would need for a 12 week cycle? It eliminates forgetting things and covering all bases for newbs.
Include:
Daa
Shampoo
N2guard
Unleashed/ post cycle
Create a creatine nitrate supp and include that.
Protein
Ect ect ect.
 
noodles1010 said:
Brr,

Us guys who cycle are constantly buying all our supports, pct ect. Why not put together the ultimate cycle package that includes EVERYTHING a guy would need for a 12 week cycle? It eliminates forgetting things and covering all bases for newbs.
Include:
Daa
Shampoo
N2guard
Unleashed/ post cycle
Create a creatine nitrate supp and include that.
Protein
Ect ect ect.
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Noodles,


Nelson Montana, Nathan Chase and myself have been talking about putting together some J.A.T cycles. J.A.T meaning "Just Add Testosterone" - Where basically we would offer a package of everything you need to run along high test dosages, from your Anti-E in D-Spark and your PCT in HCGenerate, with the proteins and all those goodies that can make a good cycle GREAT!- All you guys have to do is just add Testosterone either your HRT or whatever you guys get. Each J.A.T cycle will come ready to deal witht he Test dosage you will use, so there will be 500mg/mk cycle programs and 750mg and all the way up to 1,000mg per wk cycles.

The idea behind the cycle is using the Testosterone as a base and then adding the Supplement to enhance it's effects and also negate any possible side effects... For example, taking D-Spark with Testosterone, you are ensured a pretty potent AI that should keep Estrogen conversion to a minimum, and the pumps in the gym should be pretty fucking sickl, better than test alone - Compount that with a healthy daily dose of G.E.A.R and maybe stacking it with some RS Transaderm, ect ect ect.... Bascially the cycles will be all laid out ready for purchase with a couple of clicks, everything you will need to make HUGE gains of just Test alone...

The main reason why I came up with this J.A.T cycle idea is because it is becoming more and more clear that as time goes by and UG labs come and go, good old cheap Testosterone may be the only reliable product out there. It's crazy easy to get Human Grade Testosterone all over the place, and guys on HRT sometime Testosterone is all they get. Centering a few cycle packages around "Just Add Testosterone" maybe a great value for customers who will get HUGE gains out of what otherwise could be a mild cycle.


-BRR
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Noodles,


Nelson Montana, Nathan Chase and myself have been talking about putting together some J.A.T cycles. J.A.T meaning "Just Add Testosterone" - Where basically we would offer a package of everything you need to run along high test dosages, from your Anti-E in D-Spark and your PCT in HCGenerate, with the proteins and all those goodies that can make a good cycle GREAT!- All you guys have to do is just add Testosterone either your HRT or whatever you guys get. Each J.A.T cycle will come ready to deal witht he Test dosage you will use, so there will be 500mg/mk cycle programs and 750mg and all the way up to 1,000mg per wk cycles.

The idea behind the cycle is using the Testosterone as a base and then adding the Supplement to enhance it's effects and also negate any possible side effects... For example, taking D-Spark with Testosterone, you are ensured a pretty potent AI that should keep Estrogen conversion to a minimum, and the pumps in the gym should be pretty fucking sickl, better than test alone - Compount that with a healthy daily dose of G.E.A.R and maybe stacking it with some RS Transaderm, ect ect ect.... Bascially the cycles will be all laid out ready for purchase with a couple of clicks, everything you will need to make HUGE gains of just Test alone...

The main reason why I came up with this J.A.T cycle idea is because it is becoming more and more clear that as time goes by and UG labs come and go, good old cheap Testosterone may be the only reliable product out there. It's crazy easy to get Human Grade Testosterone all over the place, and guys on HRT sometime Testosterone is all they get. Centering a few cycle packages around "Just Add Testosterone" maybe a great value for customers who will get HUGE gains out of what otherwise could be a mild cycle.


-BRR
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thats awesome.. ive been saying that ntbm needs to do this for the longest time... it will be a hit for sure and like i said before so much easier for noobs to not fuck up anymore (somehow im sure they will manage to fuck up even if we drew them a map lol) but in any case awesome idea...

as far as a new supp... hands down a creatine nitrate supp would be phenomenal.
stacks with all aas and feed it to your rat when theyre on sarms. cant loose with that one.
 
I agree stacks together for cycle maybe mixing creatine in with the daa powder, maybe some different types of pre workout or flavors all good suggestions one I really like but I'm sure wont happen is combining mr supps products with need to but at the same time both sites offer free shipping witch is good enough...
 
noodles1010 said:
thats awesome.. ive been saying that ntbm needs to do this for the longest time... it will be a hit for sure and like i said before so much easier for noobs to not fuck up anymore (somehow im sure they will manage to fuck up even if we drew them a map lol) but in any case awesome idea...

as far as a new supp... hands down a creatine nitrate supp would be phenomenal.
stacks with all aas and feed it to your rat when theyre on sarms. cant loose with that one.
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Creatine Nitrate is a problem because a huge lab has a use patent on it. I could contact them and try licensing it like the other guys do, but chances are they will not deal with us, because we are way too small, we are NOT on GNC shelves and we sell products that cater to the Steroid community, something that the mainstream guys have tried to almost act like it doesn't exist.

Guys, unfortunately Creatine Nitrate is not something that is in the works any time soon guiys. I just honestly don't think the guys who hold the pantent on it will license it to such a tiny operation such as ours. Plus we still sell some ingredients that the mainstream stays away from.


-BRR
 
Fishak said:
BRR, do you have a ballpark cost on the 7.5# tubs? How about a 10-20# bag?
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I'm still working out numbers. Like I said, out protein orders are tiny compared to the big players. The manufacturer charges us a lot per unit because of the set up time/cost to run tiny 50-100 bag runs of some more than 10 different flavors we now carry. So i can't promise it will be super cheap, but I can tell you that from what I buy the units for, I will raise the price just enough to stock and ship the item, plus a margin enough to offset coupon codes guys use all the time,. I also have a sku fee to pay each month per flavor at the fulfillment center.

I can't tell you ballpark figures, under $100 I'm sure, but I can't tell you precisely until we crunch the number. The new custom tubs we are using for this 7.5lbs presentation are very expensive, we are paying about $6 per each tub, I'm sure all of you guys will save and reuse the tubs as they are cool as hell! But I still gotta pay $6 for each of them and probly another buck or more for the BIG ASS label that needs to go on each tub.

I can tell you this: the guys who join the N2BM protein club and agree to have 1 to 2 tubs shipped every 30 to 60 days will get it MUCH cheaper than anybody else.


-Big Rick Rock
 
noodles1010 said:
green juice line? wheat grass, juice cleanse system type of thing?
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We are sooooo doing a powdered greens formula!

Thank You - I owe you a prize!
 
No problem. Big market for it right now too. The more people read about how beneficial it is the more people jump on the band wagon.
 
I'm in for the J.A.T. Cycle packages! I'm currently on TRT and I only get the testosterone from the doc. All my other ancillaries I get from N2BM & Mr Supps. So I'm personally in for this bc it would be addressing a need for someone like myself. Thanks keep us posted.
 
Elrock said:
I'm in for the J.A.T. Cycle packages! I'm currently on TRT and I only get the testosterone from the doc. All my other ancillaries I get from N2BM & Mr Supps. So I'm personally in for this bc it would be addressing a need for someone like myself. Thanks keep us posted.
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Bro - I really think that with just Test alone and a nice pack of ancillary supplements, you can make as much gains as the guys did way back in the day with just 3 or 4 steroids. There are just so many ways to approach muscle building and feeding the muscle cells that Testosterone alone can be used as the base for a badass cycle that can be virtually side-effect free and without any lasting negatives.

To be honest bro, with all the UG labs out there now under-dosing and switching up products on guys, I much rather just score some cheap old Human Grade Test that is still easy to find and cheap to buy, everything else I need goes right on my Credit Card and get shipped to my door no-worries at all.

The J.A.T cycles are a sure reality, I will send out a mass email explaining it to guys once these cycles are done.

Just Add Test!


-BRR
 
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gjohnson5 said:
Agmatine sulfate is another good product out there which has few sources out there to obtain
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We are doing that.

There is a product in R&D called "Methyl-Spark" It is D-Spark's BIG BROTHER. It carries a second AI along with a higher dose of Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione

Since D-Spark is known for the awesome Pumps you get while on it, we added Agmatine Sulfate to Methyl-Spark in order to round out the No2 Triple threat of DAA + Nitretine + Agmatine Sulfate... We are looking at 3 months till Mehtyl-Spark is out for sale.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
We are doing that.

There is a product in R&D called "Methyl-Spark" It is D-Spark's BIG BROTHER. It carries a second AI along with a higher dose of Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione

Since D-Spark is known for the awesome Pumps you get while on it, we added Agmatine Sulfate to Methyl-Spark in order to round out the No2 Triple threat of DAA + Nitretine + Agmatine Sulfate... We are looking at 3 months till Mehtyl-Spark is out for sale.
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I like this
 
Big Rick Rock said:
We are doing that.

There is a product in R&D called "Methyl-Spark" It is D-Spark's BIG BROTHER. It carries a second AI along with a higher dose of Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione

Since D-Spark is known for the awesome Pumps you get while on it, we added Agmatine Sulfate to Methyl-Spark in order to round out the No2 Triple threat of DAA + Nitretine + Agmatine Sulfate... We are looking at 3 months till Mehtyl-Spark is out for sale.
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I ran DSpark during my PCT and it was absolutely killer. Along with N2Guard it's probably my favorite supplement out there with Keto Burn and HCGenerate not far behind. The idea of getting to use it's "big brother" is pretty damned exciting.
 
What about the possibilities of condensing some of the hcgenerate pills instead of 5 pills you make them three pills a day? The one Idea I had was why not sell a larger bottle full of hcgenerate instead of a months supply so you help the consumer out by making a bottle that will last 2 months or so for longer cycles I my self am going to test out helladrol and that ph needs 6 weeks so I am forced to start hcgen on my 3 week rather from day one I would hate to spend 60 bucks for 2 weeks. Maybe you can take that into consideration other than that I love all the products
 
Idobehigh said:
I agree stacks together for cycle maybe mixing creatine in with the daa powder, maybe some different types of pre workout or flavors all good suggestions one I really like but I'm sure wont happen is combining mr supps products with need to but at the same time both sites offer free shipping witch is good enough...
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Yeah It's free shipping all over so no biggies on that.

We have a creating product in the works. It is a tasty drink like Gatorate/Poweraid-like flavor with a tiny bit thicker mouth-feel. It should spike insulin and inject creatine with every serving. This is mean as the "Hardgainer's Solution" some of those guys who just can't pack on the mass as much as they try, they will love this stuff. Some of you guys that have an easier time packing on muscle, will love this stuff Post-Workout with some protein, and if you are on Gear, man that is a marriage made in heaven, it will ROCK using it while on Steroids.



-BRR
 
Ever since Nuclear Nutrition shut down (Trevor Smith died) I've yet to find a similar protein/mrp powder.

They had fruit punch and grape flavor. What i liked is that they were a clear, juice type drink rather than a shake. They were geared toward the guys that were trying to consistently consume 400+ grams/day.

In some ways NTBM reminds me of the old NN.
 
helheim said:
Not to Canada.. Maybe offer free shipping if you order over X amount.
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I would love this idea. All my orders are over $300 because I have to pay so much in shipping/ customs I like to do a big batch.

Would love some better shipping options. Us Canadians are your next door neighbours after all..
 
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