Boldenone and "vascularity". Paging Ulter/Macro

[52_21_30]

I was always under the impression that improved vascularity is achieved through genetics (thin skin), and low bf%. I have heard for years people praise EQ for the vascularity it delivers. Is there a scientific explanation behind this, or does it just so happen that most of the people using EQ are lean individuals who would get improved vascularity from any AAS?? Don't all AAS increase angiogenesis to some degree?

I haven't given EQ a real chance with a proper 12-20 week cycle so that's why I'm asking. I notice improved vascularity from AAS use in general, as well as GH. GH vascularity is very noticeable because of the subcutaneous fat breakdown. It makes my skin look like a leaf.

 

[sofakingdel]

bump i'm curious too

 

[georgie24]

all EQ gave me was some sub par cuts and MAJOR anxiety, no extra vascularity or hunger

 

[macrophage69alpha]

increased RBC's and likely effects that increase peripheral blood pressure due to binding profile similar to etiocholanolone. Also likely the reason that it causes "fever" like symptoms among users

 

[enacer420nj]

all EQ gave me was some sub par cuts and MAJOR anxiety, no extra vascularity or hunger

Im hearing alot about anxiety...not looking foward to that...next cycle is Wk 1-15 600mg EQ and TestE250mg 5-15

 

[rg78]

Im hearing alot about anxiety...not looking foward to that...next cycle is Wk 1-15 600mg EQ and TestE250mg 5-15

Not everyone experiences anxiety so dont stress and see how it affects you personally.
The benefit of EQ for me where increased appettite which enabled me to eat cleaner which helped me cut fat and still get enough calories to gain muscle.

 

[chestmaster1]

coming up on week 6 , first time using it, haven't had any hunger or anxiety. I'm using it for cutting and have definately noticed an increase in vascularity. I'm naturally not vascular, i feel I have pretty thick skin but have noticed a big difference in vascularity mostly between my left forarm and bicep. I went from seeing maybe 1-2 veins lightly to 4-5 veins pretty visible running into the bicep all the way from my wrist. My arm looks like a different arm. I don't know what it is because I also thought that it depended on body fat but I feel I have had my body fat lower then this but not been as vascular. I know its only week 6 but I feel the eq has made me more vascular unless I all of the sudden just started getting more vascular for another reason i don't know off

 

[JoNeS]

Love EQ. Run it long though, 12+ weeks. I get insanely vascular while on it. Especially the calf's and Quads. No anxiety or increased appetite for me though, just vascularity, maybe slight strength slight size.

 

[enacer420nj]

Not everyone experiences anxiety so dont stress and see how it affects you personally.
The benefit of EQ for me where increased appettite which enabled me to eat cleaner which helped me cut fat and still get enough calories to gain muscle.

awesome thats what im looking for clean, lean gains.....im hearing people say they didnt get shit as far as apetite and strength/size...I aint taking the shit to be "vascular" i could give a fuck less...wtf are vains if your not big/lean

 

[dsh89]

Yeah I have veins that have come up on my legs that I could never see before. Been on EQ for about 16 weeks now. Forearm veins are ropes now. It is good stuff.

 

[Ulter]

One thing to keep in mind is that Eq improves vascularity. It doesn't give you vascularity all by itself unless you're using it for a very long time. It also doesn't increase appetite for most men using test with it.

 

[Mrpumped]

Love EQ. Run it long though, 12+ weeks. I get insanely vascular while on it. Especially the calf's and Quads. No anxiety or increased appetite for me though, just vascularity, maybe slight strength slight size.

Not to be sarcastic at all or rude, but why use it if it just gives you slight strength gain and slight muscle gain? Is that pretty much the way EQ is as an aas or will everyones experience vary(as far as strength, size, hunger, vascularity etc..)? I ask this because I'm thinking about using it for my next cycle.

 

[rg78]

One thing to keep in mind is that Eq improves vascularity. It doesn't give you vascularity all by itself unless you're using it for a very long time. It also doesn't increase appetite for most men using test with it.

Ulter have you heard any information regarding Eq and wether or not it may be benefical to the treatment of asthma?

 

[JoNeS]

Not to be sarcastic at all or rude, but why use it if it just gives you slight strength gain and slight muscle gain? Is that pretty much the way EQ is as an aas or will everyones experience vary(as far as strength, size, hunger, vascularity etc..)? I ask this because I'm thinking about using it for my next cycle.

Because my goal for using it was to preserve muscle while dieting. I wanted something that had very little side effects, and something that gave you slow / lean / keep-able gains.

I wasn't looking to add any real size.

 

[glennds]

all EQ gave me was some sub par cuts and MAJOR anxiety, no extra vascularity or hunger

i didnt get the anxiety but didnt see any of the so called benefits of EQ. wont use again.

 

[georgie24]

i didnt get the anxiety but didnt see any of the so called benefits of EQ. wont use again.

what dose did you run?

i ran 400mg maybe if i did 6-800mg then i would of seen those veins lol

masteron/var or materon/winny = titanium shredded vascular look

 

[MR. BMJ]

I agree with Ulter in that for most, myself included, it has been a waste taking it with a cycle cosisting of high test/Dbol/nandrolone. If bulking using these compounds 'most' will not see much vascularity.

I will probably only use it again while cutting up. I can tell a big difference in vascularity in the first week of using the compound. This is separate from muscle gains obviously...but my arms look veinier after just 1 week using the stuff.

I'm gonna semi-bulk here in about 1.5-2 months using a stack of 100mg/d of Var, and Test/EQ @ 2-300mg EOD. Along with hopefully some GH EOD by then as well.

BMJ

 

[glennds]

what dose did you run?

i ran 400mg maybe if i did 6-800mg then i would of seen those veins lol

masteron/var or materon/winny = titanium shredded vascular look

ono masteron now for first time georgie, with deca/test/tren. this is biggest cycle i have ever done.

i am the biggest i have ever been but surprisingly not seeing it significiatnly in scale weight. definitiely thinner waist on this cycle. gotta love the effects of steroids.

 

[shrimp44]

Love EQ. Run it long though, 12+ weeks. I get insanely vascular while on it. Especially the calf's and Quads. No anxiety or increased appetite for me though, just vascularity, maybe slight strength slight size.

how much of this veiny look do you keep once the cycle is over?

 

[Ulter]

Ulter have you heard any information regarding Eq and wether or not it may be benefical to the treatment of asthma?

There wouldn't be any such research. Eq is only approved for use in animals. So there is no reason to research it as a asthma medication. It wouldn't work anyway.

 

[JoNeS]

how much of this veiny look do you keep once the cycle is over?

Hmm. TOugh to say really. All of my "EQ veins" are still visible off gear, they're just not as full and noticeable.

 

[52_21_30]

Well folks my bridge is going to be 300/week, but I really only think for the cycle I'll go 400, maybe 500 a week tops. I'll be stacking with test, tren, anavar, and winstrol, so I think those doses are plenty, even at my size and experience level (with gear, not EQ). From everything I've read, the sides (anxiety) seem to be dose-dependant, particularly occurring with doses at or above 600 mg/week. Of course there are people that run a gram or more a week with no sides, but those that DO experience sides seem to get them at the said doses. I'll be starting the bridge next week, and will report any anxiety issues if they arise (I hope to god they dont) and at what dosage. Probably in another thread though....