Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
Body Fat - Drugs that help?
- Thread starter kenny31
- Start date
Italianboy
New member
Adjust your diet.If you wanna cut the rule is:low cal(but not LOW fats!).
The better diet for me to loos fat is chetogenic.
For drugs what do you mean(here DRUGS mean:cocaine,exstasy,eroine,cannabis):aas or fatburner or both or what?
The better diet for me to loos fat is chetogenic.
For drugs what do you mean(here DRUGS mean:cocaine,exstasy,eroine,cannabis):aas or fatburner or both or what?
FarBeyondDriven
New member
Finaplex will do that. At least that is why they give trenbolone, main ingredient to fina, to cattle before auction. Then there are a lots of cutting substances. Italianboy is right about one thing, diet is important no matter what you do, that rest and exercise routine.
YoungNHugeGuns
New member
DNP.............D N P....................DDDNNNPPP!!!
Stating the obvious, but I didn't know this either until I found this website!
The most effective fatburner by far, which also preserves muscle -- DNP!!
Click on "search" in the upper right hand corner of the page, and you will find tons of results on it. In a nutshell, you can expect to lose 9-12 pounds of just fat in 8 days, and then you gain muscle when it is over (without losing muscle when you are on). The downside is extreme sides, which are mostly just uncomfortable and not a problem in the long-term if you monitor yourself and know what you are doing.
Stating the obvious, but I didn't know this either until I found this website!
The most effective fatburner by far, which also preserves muscle -- DNP!!
Click on "search" in the upper right hand corner of the page, and you will find tons of results on it. In a nutshell, you can expect to lose 9-12 pounds of just fat in 8 days, and then you gain muscle when it is over (without losing muscle when you are on). The downside is extreme sides, which are mostly just uncomfortable and not a problem in the long-term if you monitor yourself and know what you are doing.
B
basskiller
Guest
DNP ......be verrrrrry careful..........
To save you a little leg work....
This is from anabolicreview
DNP
DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol)
The substance; 2, 4-Dinitrophenol has many other brand names such as, 1 Hydroxy-2,4-dinitrophenol, Solfo Black, Nitrophen, Aldifen, and Chemox are just a few and is among many things, a metabolic stimulant. That is it's popularity here in our world, it burns fat like no other. Let me just tell you of it's other uses before I continue. First, it is a toxic dye, chemically related to Trinitrophenol (Picric Acid), second, it is found in insecticides, wood preservatives, herbicides, explosives, and is also a hazardous material. Third, it is used in science to couple or attach to DNA molecules. All of this should tell you that it is not a run-of-the-mill metabolic stimulant, like Clenbuterol or Triacana or Ephedrine or any other for that matter. Here is DNP's tox faq's from the international chemical safety cards to you give an idea of what it is considered to be; Combustible. Gives off irritating or toxic fumes (or gases) in a fire. Risk of fire and explosion. DO NOT expose to friction or shock. MAY BE ABSORBED! Redness. Roughness. Yellow staining on the skin. PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE: YELLOW CRYSTALS ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: The substance can be absorbed into the body by inhalation, through the skin and by ingestion. PHYSICAL DANGERS: Dust explosion possible if in powder or granular form, mixed with air. INHALATION RISK: Evaporation at 20°C is negligible; a harmful concentration of airborne particles can, however, be reached quickly. CHEMICAL DANGERS: May explosively decompose on shock, friction, or concussion. May explode on heating. Shock-sensitive compounds are formed with alkalis, ammonia and most metals. The substance decomposes on heating producing toxic gases including nitrogen oxides. EFFECT OF SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE: The substance may cause effects on metabolism, resulting in very high body temperature. Exposure may result in death. EFFECTS OF LONG TERM OR REPEATED EXPOSURE: Repeated or prolonged contact with skin may cause dermatitis. The substance may have effects on the peripheral nervous system. The substance may have effects on the eyes, resulting in cataracts. Boiling point: sublimes °C, Melting point: 112°C, Relative density (water = 1): 1.68. Solubility in water, g/100 ml at 54.5°C: 0.14. Relative vapor density (air = 1): 6.36. This product is handled and shipped in a 15% solution of water, making it a paste, so that it will not explode due to shock or friction.
DNP is an uncoupling agent that inhibits the flow of electrons and the pumping of H+ ions for ATP synthesis. Fifty years ago it was used for weight loss, however, in 1938 the FDA removed it from the counter, as it caused cataracts and even sometimes death. If electron transport does not produce ATP, then much more sugar must be metabolized for energy needs. Very low production of ATP would be lethal. In oxidative phosphorylation, the flow of electrons from NADH (the reduced form of NAD+, oxidized from NAD. This enzyme is important in accepting electrons in the course of metabolic reactions. When NAD+ gives up it's electron, it is converted to it's reduced form NADH) and FADH2 (the reduced form of FAD) to oxygen results in the pumping of H+ from the matrix to the inner membrane space of the mitochondria. This gradient of H+ can produce ATP by flowing through ATP synthetase in the mitochondrial inner membrane. Dinitrophenol disrupts the H+ gradient reducing ATP synthesis. Under these conditions, much of the food that we eat could not be used for ATP synthesis and we lose weight. However, too much inhibitor and we could make too little ATP for life. The difference between weight loss and death is only a small concentration change in dinitrophenol, making the drug dangerous. Simply put, this means that while eating your normal diet, you will have somewhere between 20% and 40% reduction of calories.
You may now be wondering just what kind of dose would be effective, but not harmful. A dose of 2mg/kg/day (or two mgs per kg of body weight per day) would be an effective dose, causing the loss of about 5 to 10 pounds in a 10 to 14 day period, maybe less. So, a person weighing 200 lbs would weigh about 91 kgs, so 2mgs per kg of body weight would be the equivalent of 182 mgs of DNP per day, but since it typically comes in 200 mg capsules, you would take one cap per day. Since DNP has this inhibiting effect, glycolosis is inhibited as well, causing a diabetic effect due to the conversion of glucose without insulin, so you may have heard that people take insulin with DNP. This will counter act the symptoms of lethargy and lack of energy due to DNP's use.
To save you a little leg work....
This is from anabolicreview
DNP
DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol)
The substance; 2, 4-Dinitrophenol has many other brand names such as, 1 Hydroxy-2,4-dinitrophenol, Solfo Black, Nitrophen, Aldifen, and Chemox are just a few and is among many things, a metabolic stimulant. That is it's popularity here in our world, it burns fat like no other. Let me just tell you of it's other uses before I continue. First, it is a toxic dye, chemically related to Trinitrophenol (Picric Acid), second, it is found in insecticides, wood preservatives, herbicides, explosives, and is also a hazardous material. Third, it is used in science to couple or attach to DNA molecules. All of this should tell you that it is not a run-of-the-mill metabolic stimulant, like Clenbuterol or Triacana or Ephedrine or any other for that matter. Here is DNP's tox faq's from the international chemical safety cards to you give an idea of what it is considered to be; Combustible. Gives off irritating or toxic fumes (or gases) in a fire. Risk of fire and explosion. DO NOT expose to friction or shock. MAY BE ABSORBED! Redness. Roughness. Yellow staining on the skin. PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE: YELLOW CRYSTALS ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: The substance can be absorbed into the body by inhalation, through the skin and by ingestion. PHYSICAL DANGERS: Dust explosion possible if in powder or granular form, mixed with air. INHALATION RISK: Evaporation at 20°C is negligible; a harmful concentration of airborne particles can, however, be reached quickly. CHEMICAL DANGERS: May explosively decompose on shock, friction, or concussion. May explode on heating. Shock-sensitive compounds are formed with alkalis, ammonia and most metals. The substance decomposes on heating producing toxic gases including nitrogen oxides. EFFECT OF SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE: The substance may cause effects on metabolism, resulting in very high body temperature. Exposure may result in death. EFFECTS OF LONG TERM OR REPEATED EXPOSURE: Repeated or prolonged contact with skin may cause dermatitis. The substance may have effects on the peripheral nervous system. The substance may have effects on the eyes, resulting in cataracts. Boiling point: sublimes °C, Melting point: 112°C, Relative density (water = 1): 1.68. Solubility in water, g/100 ml at 54.5°C: 0.14. Relative vapor density (air = 1): 6.36. This product is handled and shipped in a 15% solution of water, making it a paste, so that it will not explode due to shock or friction.
DNP is an uncoupling agent that inhibits the flow of electrons and the pumping of H+ ions for ATP synthesis. Fifty years ago it was used for weight loss, however, in 1938 the FDA removed it from the counter, as it caused cataracts and even sometimes death. If electron transport does not produce ATP, then much more sugar must be metabolized for energy needs. Very low production of ATP would be lethal. In oxidative phosphorylation, the flow of electrons from NADH (the reduced form of NAD+, oxidized from NAD. This enzyme is important in accepting electrons in the course of metabolic reactions. When NAD+ gives up it's electron, it is converted to it's reduced form NADH) and FADH2 (the reduced form of FAD) to oxygen results in the pumping of H+ from the matrix to the inner membrane space of the mitochondria. This gradient of H+ can produce ATP by flowing through ATP synthetase in the mitochondrial inner membrane. Dinitrophenol disrupts the H+ gradient reducing ATP synthesis. Under these conditions, much of the food that we eat could not be used for ATP synthesis and we lose weight. However, too much inhibitor and we could make too little ATP for life. The difference between weight loss and death is only a small concentration change in dinitrophenol, making the drug dangerous. Simply put, this means that while eating your normal diet, you will have somewhere between 20% and 40% reduction of calories.
You may now be wondering just what kind of dose would be effective, but not harmful. A dose of 2mg/kg/day (or two mgs per kg of body weight per day) would be an effective dose, causing the loss of about 5 to 10 pounds in a 10 to 14 day period, maybe less. So, a person weighing 200 lbs would weigh about 91 kgs, so 2mgs per kg of body weight would be the equivalent of 182 mgs of DNP per day, but since it typically comes in 200 mg capsules, you would take one cap per day. Since DNP has this inhibiting effect, glycolosis is inhibited as well, causing a diabetic effect due to the conversion of glucose without insulin, so you may have heard that people take insulin with DNP. This will counter act the symptoms of lethargy and lack of energy due to DNP's use.
Fina is an AAS just like all the others. It does not add a lot of water, but it does not necessarily make you lose fat either. Its all how you eat. The reason fina is given to cattle is because they make better use of the food they eat and put on mass with the same amount of feed. When it comes time to sell, the farmer gets paid by the pound and therefor makes more money.
FarBeyondDriven
New member
If you are considering DNP usage I would recommend a shitload of studying. It is serious shit with alot of dangerous side effects, including death.
Phemomena
New member
i'll probably get flamed for this, but if you're just starting out and have never used fat burners b4, why not give an eca stack a try....
that, combined with clean diet, heavy lifting and some solid cardio could probably get you to your goals, maybe a little slower, but it's
1)easier and cheaper to get and
2) probably a bit easier on the system (if you don't overdo it)
that's just my two cents
that, combined with clean diet, heavy lifting and some solid cardio could probably get you to your goals, maybe a little slower, but it's
1)easier and cheaper to get and
2) probably a bit easier on the system (if you don't overdo it)
that's just my two cents
Phenomena, my diet is very clean and I use fatburners like Adipokinetix and MD6 for about 6 years now. Before those products, there was Ripped Fuel of course. I feel absolutely nothing from those products, maybe curbed appetite. I even stacked the old version of MD6 with T2, full dose starting day one and didn't feel SHIT! So I think I'm pretty tolerant to supplements in general because I rarely have side effects from anything.
The problem is I lose way too much muscles while on a diet. So if I can lose fat without dieting, I would go out of that vicious circle.
The problem is I lose way too much muscles while on a diet. So if I can lose fat without dieting, I would go out of that vicious circle.
