best gains ever were on...

[satchboogie]

creatine and a very high cal diet.

i've been using steoirds mainly for cutting. but the most muscle i ever put on was by eating a lot of food... healthy stuff but a lot of it... and steroid free!

 

[variation]

ya, I found the same thing, I gain really fast eating lots and lots and lots of healthy foods and using creatine, but I may have made a mistake during my first bulk, when I bulk again I am going to keep carbohydrates very minimum about 4 hours before bed so I don't interfere with any possible growth hormone releasing during sleep and I'll compare to see if I get better results, because before I'd eat like a massive carb/protein meal right before bed hehe......