Athletic performance, first cycle

[Barbiegirl]

I'm new to the board and this is my first post.

I have spent some time using the search and researching before posting so hopefully I won't annoy anyone with any obvious questions.

I am female, 26, 5'7", 140lbs. I am an athlete competing at county level in the UK. My main events are 100m, 200m and 400m. I am looking a a short and relatively mild cycle to help my performance. I know a quite a few other athletes at my level who use AS so have decided to have a go myself and see what if any improvement I can make to my performance. I am extremely unlikely to be drug tested but would like to stay clear AS with long clearance times.

The advice I was given was a 6 week course using Stromba (5mg Stanozolol) and clen.

week 1 - 2 Stromba
week 2 - 3 Stromba
week 3 - 4 Stromba
week 4 - 4 Stromba
week 5 - 3 Stromba
week 6 - 2 Stromba

The clen is 2 per day 2days on 1 day off.

Adding extra protein into my diet but asides from that I eat pretty clean anyway.

Will include a day of weight training too for my upper body, lower half suffers enough the three days I am at the track.

Now this was all fine till I started reading through Elite, Stanozolol (Winny) does not seem to have much of a fan base her, in fact it seems downright disliked mainly for the sides it give. The other alternatives it seems are Primo and Anavar. I can get all three. Anavar seems the firm favorite but it is the only one of the three I cannot guarantee the authenticity of, so I feel a little reluctant to spend the money it costs at the risk of it being fake. I can get genuine Sherring Primo(injectable),the Stromba is real and I could even lay my hands on genuine injectable winny from zambon.

My problem and question is what one should I go for, Primo looks good at the mo coz I can get it, its real and it seems a sight more popular than Winny. Not sure how to fine out if my Anavar would be real till I got them (mail order) by then it would be a little late, and is Winny really that nasty?

Am I right to think Primo is the one? If so is 50mg twice a week the right sort of dose for what I want (Athletic performance)

Any help would be much appreciated, and thank-you for taking the time to read my post.

Barbiegirl
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[new@gettinbig]

WELCOME!! u came to the right place for info!! I would take winstrol, some women love it, others hate it....everyone woman is different so we all react to cycles differently. For your purposes i would chose winstrol over the other 2, but i will let the experts chime in!!!

 

[ann]

Nothing but good things to say here about winny ; I second the notion with New@gettinbig You will find some nice gains with it.

 

[Barbiegirl]

new@gettingbig & ann,

Thanks for your replies, would you choose injectable or tabs?

If your were to use injectable then what would the dose be? How many mg's at what interval, I can get the
Zambon Winstol Depot 50mg/ml so I guess I could go as low as 1/4 ml to give me 12.5mg.

Any ideas.

Thanks again

Barbiegirl
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[new@gettinbig]

I would use injectable instead of tabs....12mg-25mg ed...start off low, u can always increase if u need to.

 

[KBgrl]

Search a bit with Clen & WarLobo. The two day on - two day off in NOT correct [/QUOTE

oh oh --pick me pick me!!! 2 weeks on 2 weeks off !! i know thats the right answer ive done my homework ya see
Lobo-- ? -- i hear the oxyflux clen sucks. well thats just wonderful cause thats what i have soooo what do u suggest i start with. they're .2mg tabs. thanks

 

[wilson6]

If there is even the most REMOTE chance you'll be tested, DO NOT use inj stanozolol. Stanozolol produces fairly long-lasting metabolites as it is. If some of the crystals get into a fat depot, they may be around for a while. Perhaps months. Thus, traces of stanzolol metabolites will be around for months if not more esp. if you start shedding body fat (the traces will be released).

Ditto for methenolone depot.

Oxandrolone is "thought" to have the shortest clearance time for testing for several possible reasons. Perhaps 3 weeks from last dose. But with improved testing methods, anything is possible.

Avoid any inj preps with the exception of short acting testosterone esters. T-gel is in and out rapidly as is the patch which can be removed.

Clearly, the best option if testing is an issue is to stay clean.

W6

 

[poohbear]

I've read that winny was used by Ben Johnson in the Olympics and it is one of the drugs tested most during athletic events.

Welcome to the board by the way

 

[wilson6]

They can pick up any known anabolic steroid with current testing if there is enough of the parent drug or known metabolite in the urine at the time of testing and enough means a very, very small amount. They don't test specifically for any one steroid. Each steroid and/or its known metabolites has its own signature upon analysis. Testosterone testing employs a testosterone to epitestosterone ratio, total epi in the sample, consistency in testing (T/E ratios over time in the same person) and measurement of 13C to 12 C carbon ratios to identify whether the test was produced by the body or synthetically. Thus, only fast clearing T preparations are used. There are tests for GH, but they have not been approved for use. Therefore, those who choose to dope have to use fast clearing orals with few metabolites, short acting T and GH. Clen can be detected for about 10-14 days.

W6

 

[Starski]

Thank you everyone for your replies, you really are quite a friendly lot!

Testing really is not a concern and I have always been lead to beleive that injections are easier on the system than orals so would I be right to believe that Injectable Winny would be the AS of choise for my needs?

Anyone in favor of Primo?

Thank you WarLobo for the tip on the correct usage of Clen and pointing me to post...

Barbiegirl
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[wilson6]

Inj are easier on the liver except stanozolol. Oral or inj., its about the same, perhaps a little more potent mg/mg when inj since it doesn't get degraded by the first pass in the liver as the oral form would. However, it is the chemical structure of the AAS that determines liver toxicity. Winstrol is a C-17 alpha alkylated AAS whether it is oral or inj. so a similar burden to the liver. AAS such as testosterone (except methyl-T, oral) and nandrolone esters have little liver toxicity in low to moderate doses, but cannot be taken orally. Oxandrolone is unique among orals because it is not extensively metabolized by the liver and has an oxo- group in its A ring making it less liver toxic than other C-17 alpha-alkylated orals, but at high doses it can adversely affect the liver, but much less so at lower doses when compared to orals such as methyl-T, halotestin, etc.

W6

 

[ann]

I take the oral winny ; love it ; and have no complaints. I think it was Brickgirl who just posted some pics on this board, and answers a lot of questions about winny, and some of the sides. Might help you some..... This is my second cycle with it.

 

[Barbiegirl]

Thanks everyone for you replies,

Had a look at brickgirl's cycle (thanks ann) results
sounded great, though I don't think she said how long
she was on but it sounded like a long time. but still
great results.

Looks like injectable Winny for six weeks and see how things go as has been said averyone reacts differently to AS.

May well start the cycle after this season ends, my boyfriend will be on his next cycle in a month or two so we can jab each other. (Incidentally my last post was off his computer, he was still logged in hence his user name!).

What ever happens I will keep you posted.

Barbiegirl
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