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bloodinbloodout

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Just bought an investment property...all carpet with dark unfinished wood floors beneath. I will definitely keep some carpet but want to refinish the wood floors in certain areas. Anyone ever done it? When I say refinish I mean sand it down, seal it, finish it or whatever step I don't even know about. I have the money to hire but I want to learn how to do all of this shit on my own so I can save money and do it in all my other properties.
 
Never done it but seems easy enough for a diy'er. Just rent the machine from Home Depot and get going.

I don't know the steps but when I did my garage roof for the first time, I hired a "helper" that was working for a roofer. He sorta took me through the steps and it was cake from there. Maybe you could do the same. I paid him for one day's work.

Good luck and post this on the Home Improvement board. I'll just move this thread there now. Thanks for posting.
 
The hard part is getting the sanding all even. As GL mentioned rent the machine from home depot and maybe take one of their DIY classes. The rest is easy just time consuming.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
You'll fuck it up....... you have to know what your doing, most guys who install hardwood profesionaly dont even know how to sand and refinish.
 
I just did half my house, (2nd time I ave done this in 2 houses) what do you want to know? FYI, I learned how to do it from just being "handy" in general, and reading up on DIY network website. It's actually quite easy, but make sure to do one thing.

USE A TON OF NAILS. My old house I did it and didn't use enough nails and started getting squeeks. SO, I used a nail gun and shot the naisl every 4 inches this time around. Not one squeek. :D

Oh and one other tip, make sure your walls are straight BEFORE you start. A crooked wall is a nightmare to recover from.
 
he's not talking about putting down a wood floor....... he's talking about sanding and refinishing
 
fergie said:
he's not talking about putting down a wood floor....... he's talking about sanding and refinishing
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DOH! My bad but I have advice on that as well. :)

Don't get the round type sander get the belt type. The belt sander will get into the corners better without tearing up your drywall and is easier to hold onto when sanding.
 
bloodinbloodout said:
Just bought an investment property...all carpet with dark unfinished wood floors beneath. I will definitely keep some carpet but want to refinish the wood floors in certain areas. Anyone ever done it? When I say refinish I mean sand it down, seal it, finish it or whatever step I don't even know about. I have the money to hire but I want to learn how to do all of this shit on my own so I can save money and do it in all my other properties.
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if you use a belt sander, make sure not to use to rough of paper. Use a higher grade so you can fix any mess ups easier. will take a little longer, but it beats trying to sand out a quarter inch rut. good luck and get a mask when you stain and open all windows. get a good mask too not those pussy white ones.
 
I've done it several times, and it's not really all that hard. The platform sanders make it pretty hard to screw up so long as you don't stand still with it. Here's what I would suggest:

If the finish is still there, or there's wax, use a chemical stripper first, and let it get good and dry before you sand.

Follow the directions in the brochure, and proceed through all the grades of sandpaper.

Accept the fact that it's not a new floor, and there will be defects. This is called "character".

If you're pulling up carpet, make sure all the tacks are out or you will ruin your sandpaper.

Try not to topnail too much. You'll have to set the nails, fill them, and try to get it all to match, finish-wise.

Use the water-based finish. The fumes are monstrous otherwise.

Dust well before you finish, but it's damn near impossible to have the floor completely particle free, especially if you have animals or plaster walls.

While you're sanding, open a window and put a box fan in there backwards to help suck out the dust.

All that said, I'm not a pro, so someone might know more than I. I just know what worked for me. :)
 
i've seen someone use a 20" x 20" house fan and use a hvac filter to filter the air. I'm sure this would work well with projects idea of using a fan.
 
TheProject said:
I've done it several times, and it's not really all that hard. The platform sanders make it pretty hard to screw up so long as you don't stand still with it. Here's what I would suggest:

If the finish is still there, or there's wax, use a chemical stripper first, and let it get good and dry before you sand.

Follow the directions in the brochure, and proceed through all the grades of sandpaper.

Accept the fact that it's not a new floor, and there will be defects. This is called "character".

If you're pulling up carpet, make sure all the tacks are out or you will ruin your sandpaper.

Try not to topnail too much. You'll have to set the nails, fill them, and try to get it all to match, finish-wise.

Use the water-based finish. The fumes are monstrous otherwise.

Dust well before you finish, but it's damn near impossible to have the floor completely particle free, especially if you have animals or plaster walls.

While you're sanding, open a window and put a box fan in there backwards to help suck out the dust.

All that said, I'm not a pro, so someone might know more than I. I just know what worked for me. :)
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yes, i've redone wood floors and the project is right on all accounts. dusting is putting it mildly- get some tack cloths and really go over that floor, as well as using the attachement on your vaccuum cleaner on it.
 
cboogsrun said:
i've seen someone use a 20" x 20" house fan and use a hvac filter to filter the air. I'm sure this would work well with projects idea of using a fan.
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First, don't they have "dust free" sanders?.... and to the post above... Why would you want to filter the air you're removing from the room through a window to the outside? That filter idea works when you have the fan bringing air INTO the house through a window to keep the air filtered. Don't mean to pick it apart, but that's why it would be done.



and definately keep all hvac systems OFF during this whole process or you'll severely degrade the system.
 
I took down a metal ceiling when rehabbing my house. It was those copper looking things. Hideous to me but people like it.
 
gonelifting said:
I took down a metal ceiling when rehabbing my house. It was those copper looking things. Hideous to me but people like it.
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those are only nice if they fit the time period/artchitecture of the house. Put that on a 1950s cape and it look aweful.

the wood ceiling i'm putting up is vaulted. it feels insanely high when you're up on a ladder. :worried:
 
stilleto said:
those are only nice if they fit the time period/artchitecture of the house. Put that on a 1950s cape and it look aweful.

the wood ceiling i'm putting up is vaulted. it feels insanely high when you're up on a ladder. :worried:
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I hope you insulated well. Don't be calling me again this winter to "warm you up".
 
stilleto said:
btw, i'm putting UP a wood ceiling. its a PITA, but looks OH so good.
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We put up some cedar ceilings Stilleto. Tongue and groove and finished the edges by just nailing up some thick rope to give a nautical look. I like them, but my guy LOVES them that way. They do look pretty and rustic. =-)


With regard to refinishing hardwood floors, it is LOTS of work sanding and then getting all that damn dust out in order to refinish is somewhat of a nightmare, but you will get so much more $$$ for those beautiful hardwoods than for carpet! It's time well spent.

Project has it all right, and it would be hard to add to that. I think the number one key is starting with a rougher grade paper and going all the way down to really fine paper.

Good luck!
 
heatherrae said:
We put up some cedar ceilings Stilleto. Tongue and groove and finished the edges by just nailing up some thick rope to give a nautical look. I like them, but my guy LOVES them that way. They do look pretty and rustic. =-)


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ya, this is tongue and groove too, but no rope. I'm not anywhere near the shore, so the nautical look would be silly (in the mountains). :)
 
stilleto said:
ya, this is tongue and groove too, but no rope. I'm not anywhere near the shore, so the nautical look would be silly (in the mountains). :)
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Don't lie you don't have mountains out there except what's in you shirt.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
I'd still stick a shop vac in there with a long exhaust vent(hose) to the outside. I have a 25 ft. 4 inch vent permanently attatched to my shop vac. Whenever I use it I always stick the vent out a window.


post pics.
 
Scotsman said:
The hard part is getting the sanding all even. As GL mentioned rent the machine from home depot and maybe take one of their DIY classes. The rest is easy just time consuming.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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Actually, for me, the hard part was getting the stain even when I was re-doing the floor. . .what a fuggin nightmare. Plus, my knees were really starting to act up at that point (a couple of years ago), so the job was complete agony. In my line of work, I bill people as much as $160/hour. . .ain't NO WAY IN HELL I'll EVER refinish another floor again as long as I live.

Oh. . .but you have fun, though!!
 
ouuuuuuu....... you will be dusting for weeks.... LOL
 
AHAAA! Also, tape some plastic covers over the entryways of the room and you;ll be fine. I didn't get too much dust in my house when I did it. I had it done professionally. New installation.



http://www.dustlessfloorsanding.ca/
 
Shit, I just noticed they attatch it to a truck. But there are other sanders that collect dust as well. They have a bag on the machine at the exit area of the sandpaper.
 
gonelifting said:
Shit, I just noticed they attatch it to a truck. But there are other sanders that collect dust as well. They have a bag on the machine at the exit area of the sandpaper.
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dude... thats a vacume cleaner ;)
 
Frisky said:
dude... thats a vacume cleaner ;)
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Oh.... how do YOU get dust out of the house? Do you suck it yourself? HA! umm. sorry.

Seriously, if you vacuum it as it's coming out, you have a great chance at keeping the place clean. It's like cum.
 
gonelifting said:
Oh.... how do YOU get dust out of the house? Do you suck it yourself? HA! umm. sorry.

Seriously, if you vacuum it as it's coming out, you have a great chance at keeping the place clean. It's like cum.
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lol

I now have a vision of a mini vac on the side your bed on the nightstand with an attachment to clean up your spunk.
 
Where the fuck's the ban button?!! Damnit!!!
 
gonelifting said:
Where the fuck's the ban button?!! Damnit!!!
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tee hee

hey... make sure you get the low end mini vac... too much suction can be quite painfull... :verygood:
 
I should have said "It's like cumming after a blowjob." You wouldn't understand.
 
gonelifting said:
I should have said "It's like cumming after a blowjob." You wouldn't understand.
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oh yea.... now I understand!

LOL

I guess I can now label myself as a vacume? ;)
 
digimon7068 said:
The sander that I used (an up-right model) had a bad-ass sweeper built in. . .there was very little dust flying around.
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thank you!!

I'm NOT crazy!

Yesiam
 
HumanTarget said:
getting scars from being porked on lots of wood floors doesn't make you an expert.
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I prefer grass, green grass and the good grass... not that cheap shit.
 
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