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Anne Heche was crazy while gay.

she was crazy, dont know if that makes her gay though...still to get with ellen degeneres.....funny that she met her hubby while filming a doccy on her bitch (assume she was still with ellen)......thats out of order


celestia.....sooo cliche ;)
 
She is a media whore who knows how to manipulate the press to get publicity. Period.
 
She just released a book too, about being crazy. Do you think she'll mention which personailty of hers had its face buried in Ellen DeGeneres' cooch?
 
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She is a media whore who knows how to manipulate the press to get publicity. Period.
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I wish she'd manipulate me!!:p :p :p
 
I thought I remember hearing something about she was on exctasy when she was seduced by Ellen for the first time. Ellen is a pig anyhow.
 
Oh i had no idea she's getting married!!!

I knew her mom some years ago. I bet her mom is over the moon...

love
helen
 
HelenSL said:
I knew her mom some years ago. I bet her mom is over the moon...
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Yeah, I'll bet she's really happy that her dead husband raped her daughter for years before dying of AIDS., and that her daughter's written a book about it.

Did you and Heche talk to God together, Helen?
 
One of the excerpts I heard from her book talks about how her dad was SO gay but had to hide it. Then another one talks about how he had sex with her all the time when she was young. Hmmmmmmmmm, not to call her a liar or anything, but those facts just don't seem to go together. Horrible if true, but something sounds fishy (get it? fishy. a little dyke humor).
 
Coming out as Straight

There seem sto almost be an epidemic of chicks "waking up" and realizing that they aren't gay and never were.
Remember how we keep being told that sexual orientation is fixed at birth amd can't be changed? Well, what the heck is going on, then?

See this lovely article in the Liberal rag Salon: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/07/25/coming_out/


Excerpt:

"After 12 years and two children, Julie Cypher leaves Melissa Etheridge, claiming that she's not gay and she never was. Melissa throws up her hands. Many lesbians, understandably, are outraged. Not gay? After years with a same-sex partner? Who is she trying to fool?

Herself, perhaps. And perhaps not. At the age of 28, after eight years of dating women -- that is, never having dated men -- I realized that I wanted to be with men. And that, in fact, I had never wanted to be with women -- not sexually, anyway. "
 
There was a study done by a professor up in the northeast (Boston, or somewhere "up and over there") a few months back that was spoken of on The O'Reilly Factor that proved that those who were gay were only fooling themselves, and could be "fixed" with the right treatment.

*IF* in fact, they can be "fixed," it means they weren't broken in this case, though--My logic is this...No matter how many pictures, movies, etc., I saw with naked guys, I know I'd just think it was nastier and nastier everytime.

Like I said..."WHO KNOWS?" ;)
 
In the 60s and 70s, it was very politically correct and very fashionable for women to give up on men and sleep instead with women. It was a political more than a sexual move. ALl these women claimed to be "liberated."
Well, these same women have been waking up and realizing that they were misled by the radical feminist lesbians. They were lied to.
They're waking up to the fact that they want men and they want to get married and have children. They are realizing how hollow and hate-filled the lesbian dialectic is.
And these days as well as in the 90s, we see it being ever-so-fashionable for men to be gay. Watch the backlash within 10 years of "gay" men suddenly remembering that they like women.
Hell, even the ultra Feminazi Gloria Steinem ended up getting married...


"Aging feminists needn't worry that their north star has flickered out. The ceremony, at the Oklahoma home of Wilma Mankiller, was suitably unconventional. The bride not only didn't wear white; she wore jeans. "
 
That's a good point...These middle-class men in their late 30's, 40's, and 50's that leave a wife and kids to go get f*cked in the ass are so jaded by the liberal media's portrayal of the lifestyle...It's sad.

But, like you said, just wait 10 years or so, when they *REALIZE* it all was a mistake, and that the "movement" has halted.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
bwwaahhahahahah, I don't know, but I don't think anybody goes to get fucked in the ass because of what they see in the media......I could be wrong, but I don't care how much the liberal media play's up the gay lifestyle, I'm not getting aids in exchange for a prostate massage I can have my girlfriend perform
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ahahahahahahahahahaha :p ;) ;)

makes u wonder why your media goes ape shit everytime a same sex kiss is on TV. i aint seen one on buffy yet :bawling:
 
danielson: They go "ape shit," as you put it, because most NORMAL Americans think seeing to human beings of the same sex kiss is fuckin' gross...IMO.

:D ;) :angel:
 
I do believe that people today are such fucking sheep that they will fuck members of teh same sex if enough externally-generated messages tell them that they should.
Witness women in the early days of the Feminazi movement, as I mention above.
Otheriwse, we wouldn't have women waking up from lesbianism and needing to claim to have been crazy just to get out of responsibility for eating another woman's chocha.
 
Everyone who believes the media influences the true sexuality of a person, is a fucking moron. I have had homosexual feelings and fantasies since I was 5 years old. I am on of six children, and am the only one gay. We were all raised the same way working and fighting our asses off on a huge farm. I played D1 college football, and hid the fact I was gay for 23 years. There is nothing femine about me, and I am not fixable if you believe that I am broken. I have tried about everything imaginable to change my sexuality to fit into society, and am not going to believe for one fucking minute Anne Heche was ever gay. She is a media hungry whore who is trying to save who miserable faltering career.
 
That's because we live in a gullible society that believes perception is fact and perception is the only thing that matters anymore. Your imagination becomes your reality and anything that does not concur with this is not exceptable and will be denied.
 
Well put, Kryp2o.
Without some things we know to be true, things which have been true for thousands of years, we are adrift in a morass of gullibility and changing fashions and fickleness masquerading as wisdom.
Has human nature really suddenly changed in the last generation, or have we just decided that we didn't like Mommy and Daddy's rules?
 
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Bull69, that may be true for you. Did I anywhere in my posts say that I was explaining all homosexuals with this theory? No.
Just some.
 
The word "rebellion" comes to mind...???

Bull69: You said you were "1 of 6," so do you think being the "only gay one" makes you unique...???

Just food for thought on this rainy ass day while I sit here at work without any customers...???
 
My homosexuality is not due to rebellion. At 5yo, I did not have a clue what sex or homosexuality was, and I can remeber having a crush on a friend of mine. I never acted on any of the feelings I had, and I made a effort to sleep with as many women as I could to prove that these feelings were not valid. However, I had to fantasize about men to finish the deal. It is like asking you if you chose be be straight or if you did so to rebel. It is ludicrous. Just because you can not understand something, does not mean it is not valid or wrong.

I never respond to these threads, because I think they are a waste of time. I do have to wonder why it seems so many of the straight men on here are so preoccupied with this subject. Why do you care if you are not gay? What is your objective in wanting to prove that homosexuality is a choice, sickness, or whatever else you claim it is. We do not give a damn that you are straight, and would never think that you should change your sexual orientation so what do you care what our sexual orientation is?
 
Wow bull, I don't think I had a crush on a chick until like 4th grade. I did not like girls, i wanted to hang with the guys play football, matchbox, war, and throw rocks at girls until middle school.

On a funny sidenote, i remember getting wood in 4th grade looking at my friend's dad's Playboy. I did not know what was wrong with me, but I was ready to do some serious pipe-work on those broads!
 
This great quote by Jonah Goldberg sums up the issue of "homophobia" for me.

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The Left has defined anything critical of (for want of a better phrase) "the gay-rights agenda" or "gay culture" as homophobia. Homophobia leads to hatred, the argument goes, and hatred to violence. What a coup! There are things about African-American culture I do not love. I am not afraid of, nor do I hate, African Americans. And I am fundamentally opposed to any form of racially motivated violence against black people---for any reason. There are things about Japanese culture I think are downright terrible (brutal mysogyny being one), but I don't hate the people. There are things about the Chinese I think all Americans should deplore. Does this make me a "Sinophobe"?

The exaggerated definition of homophobia is a brilliant and cynical ploy to close off any reasonable debate. I am against gay marriage. I am troubled by gay adoption. If I say so, does this mean that I am encouraging morons to kill gay people? Just a few years ago, black civil rights leaders adamantly opposed white people adopting black children on the grounds that it was "cultural genocide." Did the phone lines light up with people charging "Caucaso-phobia"---even though this view was reflected in national law? While I think homophobia is a smear word, I am beginning to think that homophilia makes a lot of sense when describing how the Left views gays. For the Left, when was the last time anything was wrong with anything gays do?

http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg101698.html
 
Bull69: I never get into these discussions, either, because I do not want to be looked at as a true "bigot," but I 1)believe that homosexuality is abnormal, and 2)that the movement towards 'acceptance" is *part* of the reason for the degradation of the moral fabric (respect for family) in this country.

I don't believe it's natural, due to the inability to procreate.

I believe that *some* (like WeaponX said, he, nor I, is trying to "explain" being gay, or why they are) gay people are most likely NOT really gay...

There's my two cents, I'm sure I'll catch hell for this, but so be it...

It seems like I get more conservative as I get closer to having children of my own...
 
Badkins21 said:
danielson: They go "ape shit," as you put it, because most NORMAL Americans think seeing to human beings of the same sex kiss is fuckin' gross...IMO.

:D ;) :angel:
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well i think showing same sex kisses uring the pre watershed times (i.e. befroe sexual contact is allowed to be shown) is very bad as kids shoudlnt have to see that.

however take ally mc beal. same sex kiss. so much contreversy. allmcsqueal goes out at a late time and deals with transexuals etc....whats a same sex kiss gonna do.

ill admit when i see 2 men kiss half the time ill look and think of something else, the other times i look away...if its a gross one...its just me..im not disgusted by it particularly but seeing grown men make out doesnt really interest me at all. 2 women....well then my trousers are round my ankles ;)

over here (europe) provided its at an appropriate time then its accepted. but it doesnt happen a lot. just movies, the odd tv series etc....men2men kisses dont happen much as well, only one comes to mind and that was gross :rolleyes:
 
still u cant have double standards....i think it should be allowed. i just dont have to get off on it :FRlol:

the type opf program i was shocked about was asking young kids (14-18) about attitudes to sex etc....like the ho's an man-ho's they wre most of them had done something sexual ( ;) ) but then the question of same sex kisses came up (they were a group of friends)...all of them (male and female) had made out/done stuff with this one chick (who tried to maintain they were all crap :lmao: ) but then they asked all the guys if they had done anything same sex.

most of them said they had. its not the fact they said they did but

a) they tried to maintain they were completely straight
b) the show attempted to say this was how the whole country is (or suggested it)
c) they implied (the kids + editing) that this was all normal 'experimentation'
d) they maintained they were straight!!!

wtf!!
i have nooo problem that 2 guys made out. but....dont make out its the norm for 2 straight guys to make out on a whim...it isnt. if theyave homesexual urges then ok but i can seriously see some twit embarrasing himself by making out with his best bud then both realsing that this is jus 'ewwww'. and it isnt experimentation. if u have an urge go for it if ur brave enough. dont try and pass it off as everything a boy should do when growing up.

thankfully one of the guys there did adit he was at least bi-sexual for him to wanna ake out with other guys. im sure the program was edited to be shocking as it was presented as an insight into out teens.

im opposed to that.

(btw the exact same thing applies to the girls there. they should have mentioned it there civic duty to video the event and let all their male friends watch it)
 
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