Advice on upcoming Tren cycle

[Jones.82]

Hoping to get a bit of advice on my upcoming cycle. I am 38 years old, 5'7 and around 165 lbs and BF at present is probably around 18%, though I'll get this down below 15% before cycle, aiming for around 13% ideally but I'll settle for 15%.

I have done 3 cycles in the past, first was Test only @ 250mg per week,(at this point I knew very little and diet was terrible and probably was not training enough), second was Test (300mg per week) and Dbol (30mg ED), third was Test (500mg per week), anavar (50mg per day) and EQ (400mg per week) but the first lockdown hit at about 2 thirds of the way through this cycle last year so really wasn't happy with this.

I want to get on the Tren now, but was looking for some advice on mt first cycle. This is the layout I was going to go with:

weeks 1-4:
50mg Anavar (with liver support run daily)

weeks 1-12:
250mg Test E
250mg Tren E
20mg Cardarine ED
0.5mg Adex EOD
0.25mg Caber E3D (if needed?)
25mg Proviron ED

PCT I would lay out as follows:

weeks 14-18
Clomid: 50/50/40/20
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Cardarine: 20/20/20/20
Ostarine: 25/25/25/25

Alternatively I could up the test/tren dose to 500mg Test E and 300mg Tren E. If I added Masteron to this at a similar does to the Tren could I do away with Proviron?

I will have Cialis on hand if needed. The other thing I was not sure about was whether or not I should add T3 to my cycle, I've read a bit about this and it seems Tren suppresses T3 production and seems to be a popular addition but I really dont want to include it if its not needed.


Thanks, I appreciate any feedback

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hoping to get a bit of advice on my upcoming cycle. I am 38 years old, 5'7 and around 165 lbs and BF at present is probably around 18%, though I'll get this down below 15% before cycle, aiming for around 13% ideally but I'll settle for 15%.

I have done 3 cycles in the past, first was Test only @ 250mg per week,(at this point I knew very little and diet was terrible and probably was not training enough), second was Test (300mg per week) and Dbol (30mg ED), third was Test (500mg per week), anavar (50mg per day) and EQ (400mg per week) but the first lockdown hit at about 2 thirds of the way through this cycle last year so really wasn't happy with this.

I want to get on the Tren now, but was looking for some advice on mt first cycle. This is the layout I was going to go with:

weeks 1-4:
50mg Anavar (with liver support run daily)

weeks 1-12:
250mg Test E
250mg Tren E
20mg Cardarine ED
0.5mg Adex EOD
0.25mg Caber E3D (if needed?)
25mg Proviron ED

PCT I would lay out as follows:

weeks 14-18
Clomid: 50/50/40/20
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Cardarine: 20/20/20/20
Ostarine: 25/25/25/25

Alternatively I could up the test/tren dose to 500mg Test E and 300mg Tren E. If I added Masteron to this at a similar does to the Tren could I do away with Proviron?

I will have Cialis on hand if needed. The other thing I was not sure about was whether or not I should add T3 to my cycle, I've read a bit about this and it seems Tren suppresses T3 production and seems to be a popular addition but I really dont want to include it if its not needed.


Thanks, I appreciate any feedback

Can you add masteron instead of proviron? sure I like proviron and masteron together. 200mgs of masteron is plenty IMO.

I would also like to see you bump the testosterone to 500mgs at least (2:1 with test/tren) and add cardazol preworkout 3caps (you wont regret it trust me) the workouts will be awesome.

PCT, I HIGHLY suggest you drop the clomid and replace with aromasin, nolvadex+aromasin is good for PCT without he emotional roller coaster of clomid and estrogen sides. Like this

+Aromasin 12.5 EOD/12.5 E3D/12.5 1x/week/7mgs 1x/week
Nolva: 60/40/20/20
+n2generate 5 caps/day
Cardarine: 20/20/20/20
Ostarine: 25/25/12.5/12.5

I also suggest you go full 8 weeks pct not just 4 weeks above, after trenbolone you need it.

 

[WintheactualF]

250 Test E, 200 Tren E, 400 Mast E.. no need for proviron imo if you use Mast. Run for 10-12 weeks. Var is a good drug, but isn't going to do much for you if you are running Tren and Mast. What benefit is it going to add that those too are not going to do? Drop it and save money, or add in something stronger the first 4 weeks like Anadrol or DBol.

.5mg eod of adex would kill most peoples estrogen on 250mg of Test. I'd start with .5mg on days 2x/week. I think Aromasin would be a better choice.

You may need caber, you may not.. good to have on hand just in case. .5mg 2x/week just like the adex.

There's no need for T3.

 

[stevesmi]

i would keep everything the same but halve your serm dosages and add n2generate

 

[RickRock13]

Id raise the test dosage myself

 

[BodyMonster34]

250 Test E, 200 Tren E, 400 Mast E.. no need for proviron imo if you use Mast. Run for 10-12 weeks. Var is a good drug, but isn't going to do much for you if you are running Tren and Mast. What benefit is it going to add that those too are not going to do? Drop it and save money, or add in something stronger the first 4 weeks like Anadrol or DBol.

.5mg eod of adex would kill most peoples estrogen on 250mg of Test. I'd start with .5mg on days 2x/week. I think Aromasin would be a better choice.

You may need caber, you may not.. good to have on hand just in case. .5mg 2x/week just like the adex.

There's no need for T3.

bro this is a layout i like but double the steroid dosages

 

[SteveMobsterG]

BM talks about what HE would do vs what you can do.

 

[ballin2504]

I agree with Rock, I’d up the test dosage some

 

[Tazz]

n2generate on PCT

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Be careful not to dose your AI too high since you are only running 250mg of test per week.