Advice on Test-E + T-bol, Proviron, & Win

[Curlsgetgirls]

Hey Mates,

Would super appreciate a second opinion on this cycle. I normally just run a Test-E + T-Bol, but the following was recommended to me.

Stats: 33 years old, 6' male, 180lb, 6% bf. 7 years training experience, this would be by 5th cycle

Goal: Mass gain

Concerns:

1. No experience with proviron or winstrol
2. T-bol duration feels a bit long, previous oral cycles were 6-8 wks
3. No experience with Clomid, usually use Nolva with Arimidex on standby
4. Prone to light gyno with d-bol, no issues since switching to t-bol

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 500"]
[TR]
[TD]Week #[/TD]
[TD]Test-E[/TD]
[TD]T-Bol[/TD]
[TD]Proviron[/TD]
[TD]Winstrol[/TD]
[TD]Clomid[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 1[/TD]
[TD]400mg per week[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 2[/TD]
[TD]400mg per week[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 3[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 4[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 5[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 6[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 7[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 8[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 9[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 10[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 11[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 12[/TD]
[TD]600mg per week[/TD]
[TD]20mg per day[/TD]
[TD]50mg per day[/TD]
[TD]25mg per day[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 13[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 14[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]150mg per day[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 15[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]100 mg per day[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Week 16[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]50 mg per day[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[stevesmi]

i would consider just dropping the tbol.

 

[charger69mx]

You want mass so you will want test and Tbol. I would Drop the Winnie. It is known to cause joint pain and is usually used in a cut. Tbol is fairly weak, but I like it.


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[SteveMobsterG]

If your previous cycle worked - stick with it

 

[cbbram]

I recommend a basic bulking cycle Test /Deca

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I don't love it to be honest. I would simplify it like this:

Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg per week (no need to change dose)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust as needed with mid cycle bloods)
Proviron 50mg per day

Weeks 1-6
tbol 40mg per day
N2Guard 7 caps per day

Perfect PCT Protocol https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[Chemaltered]

I don't love it to be honest. I would simplify it like this:

Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg per week (no need to change dose)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust as needed with mid cycle bloods)
Proviron 50mg per day

Weeks 1-6
tbol 40mg per day
N2Guard 7 caps per day

Perfect PCT Protocol https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

I agree this is how I would run it as well.


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[Tazz]

I don't love it to be honest. I would simplify it like this:

Weeks 1-12
Test 500mg per week (no need to change dose)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (adjust as needed with mid cycle bloods)
Proviron 50mg per day

Weeks 1-6
tbol 40mg per day
N2Guard 7 caps per day

Perfect PCT Protocol https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

awesome advice man