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Advice on my cycle

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Age 33, 175#, 13% BF (was down at 8%, but got sick and slacked off).I wont be starting this until i get back to 10% though.

Multiple cycles under belt not a noob, just looking for tweaks. Simple questions 1) I have run HCG during and after, current Dr and Llewelyn (book author) tell me to run it at the end because you can kill your sensitivity to LH running it during cycle. So.... your thoughts? 2) I was thinking about changing the below test dosage to increase it throughout cycle.. ie 200/250/300/350/400. I have never run more than 300, thought this might work better (also book by Lleweyln recomends it/ Thoughts? 3) General comments on the cycle plan below? I should note that I run extra PCT to minimize LT damage to the swimmer or so my Dr. Says. I also am mildly suspectable to gyno symptoms.

Cycle
test cyp 300mg/week 12 weeks
Nolva 10mg twice a week
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
Albuterol 8mg daily
Sermorelin/GHRP 6mg/3mg daily starting last week of cycle

PCT Starting week 14
HCG 2,000 iu daily 5 days, 1000 iu daily 10 days. 500 iu every day for 20 days
Clomid 51 mg daily for 15 days
Nolva 20 mg daily 45 days

Post PCT
Working up to Clenbuterol 120mcg daily 4 weeks on 4 weeks off
 
Please take a look and provide feedback.

Age 33, 175#, 13% BF (was down at 8%, but got sick and slacked off).I wont be starting this until i get back to 10% though.

Multiple cycles under belt not a noob, just looking for tweaks. Simple questions 1) I have run HCG during and after, current Dr and Llewelyn (book author) tell me to run it at the end because you can kill your sensitivity to LH running it during cycle. So.... your thoughts? 2) I was thinking about changing the below test dosage to increase it throughout cycle.. ie 200/250/300/350/400. I have never run more than 300, thought this might work better (also book by Lleweyln recomends it/ Thoughts? 3) General comments on the cycle plan below? I should note that I run extra PCT to minimize LT damage to the swimmer or so my Dr. Says. I also am mildly suspectable to gyno symptoms.

Cycle
test cyp 300mg/week 12 weeks
Nolva 10mg twice a week
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
Albuterol 8mg daily
Sermorelin/GHRP 6mg/3mg daily starting last week of cycle

PCT Starting week 14
HCG 2,000 iu daily 5 days, 1000 iu daily 10 days. 500 iu every day for 20 days
Clomid 51 mg daily for 15 days
Nolva 20 mg daily 45 days

Post PCT
Working up to Clenbuterol 120mcg daily 4 weeks on 4 weeks off

Ditch the nolva and not many people on here do not approve of clen because of the heart side effects.
 
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^^^What he said about Nolva. Keep the Test the same dose throughout the entire cycle. Run HCGenerate from NTBM for 6-8 weeks up until week 12. Blast HCG during weeks 13 and 14 between your last shot of Test and PCT...do not run HCG during PCT. Lower your Clomid dose to 25 mg a day for 4 weeks.

Run PCT like this:

Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/Post-Cycle Combo
Forma-Stanzol
DAA or another natty test booster
 
Please take a look and provide feedback.

Age 33, 175#, 13% BF (was down at 8%, but got sick and slacked off).I wont be starting this until i get back to 10% though.

Multiple cycles under belt not a noob, just looking for tweaks. Simple questions 1) I have run HCG during and after, current Dr and Llewelyn (book author) tell me to run it at the end because you can kill your sensitivity to LH running it during cycle. So.... your thoughts? 2) I was thinking about changing the below test dosage to increase it throughout cycle.. ie 200/250/300/350/400. I have never run more than 300, thought this might work better (also book by Lleweyln recomends it/ Thoughts? 3) General comments on the cycle plan below? I should note that I run extra PCT to minimize LT damage to the swimmer or so my Dr. Says. I also am mildly suspectable to gyno symptoms.

Cycle
test cyp 300mg/week 12 weeks
Nolva 10mg twice a week
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
Albuterol 8mg daily
Sermorelin/GHRP 6mg/3mg daily starting last week of cycle

PCT Starting week 14
HCG 2,000 iu daily 5 days, 1000 iu daily 10 days. 500 iu every day for 20 days
Clomid 51 mg daily for 15 days
Nolva 20 mg daily 45 days

Post PCT
Working up to Clenbuterol 120mcg daily 4 weeks on 4 weeks off

What a mess.

How tall are you?

Nolvadex is garbage. You need some estrogen. Not killing it off. You should read up on the sides of nolvadex. Then your going to take arimidex on top of that? WTF....where did you get this shit info from? You need to learn the value of estrogen and having a balance of hormones in your body. Not fucking killing all your estrogen. Do you want to make gains?

Clen is garbage. It will destroy your heart muscle.

GHRP 6 is crap. Change it out for Ipamorelin. Do you have a glucose monitor for your peptides? GHRP-6 will likely cause Glucose issues. Plus you will retain a good amount of water. PLUS>...the GH spike is very short. The spike from Ipam is 4 times as long. Plus it wont spike your cortisol, make you a fat water bag or give you a constant near diabetic low blood sugar. But you STILL need a monitor. Your going to take 3mg daily? Of what? This doesnt make any sense. You need to either correct a typo or learn how to dose peptides correctly.

PCT is terrible. Theres only about a thousand PCT threads here plus a PCT forum here. Put something together that will work.
 
OK Gents, how about this (modified).

OK, Try this instead. Please provide any criticism or improvements:
Please take a look and provide feedback. Thanks everyone!

Cycle
test cyp 300mg/week 12 weeks
Nolva Only if Gyno symptoms occur
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
Albuterol 8mg daily
HCG 250 IU 2xWeek
Sermorelin/GHRP6 6mg/3mg daily starting last week of cycle

PCT Starting week 14
Clomid 51 mg daily for 15 days
Nolva 20 mg daily 45 days

Post PCT
Working up to Clenbuterol 80mcg daily 2 days on 2 days off (4 weeks on 2 weeks off)
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Also not to start a confrontation, but most of what I came here with was from working with 2 MD's (both endo's) over years. Both of which whom specialize in male hormones. I should also note their thinking ties in with the author of Anabolic's William Llewellyn. Not believing everything "experts" say I posted it here to get a feel of real life. So please don't bash me just for doing the right thing. This isn't my first cycle. That said there are 400 versions of cycling you can find in these forums.
 
OK Gents, how about this (modified).

OK, Try this instead. Please provide any criticism or improvements:
Please take a look and provide feedback. Thanks everyone!

Cycle
test cyp 300mg/week 12 weeks
Nolva Only if Gyno symptoms occur
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
Albuterol 8mg daily
HCG 250 IU 2xWeek
Sermorelin/GHRP6 6mg/3mg daily starting last week of cycle

PCT Starting week 14
Clomid 51 mg daily for 15 days
Nolva 20 mg daily 45 days

Post PCT
Working up to Clenbuterol 80mcg daily 2 days on 2 days off (4 weeks on 2 weeks off)
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Also not to start a confrontation, but most of what I came here with was from working with 2 MD's (both endo's) over years. Both of which whom specialize in male hormones. I should also note their thinking ties in with the author of Anabolic's William Llewellyn. Not believing everything "experts" say I posted it here to get a feel of real life. So please don't bash me just for doing the right thing. This isn't my first cycle. That said there are 400 versions of cycling you can find in these forums.

You didnt listen to a damn thing. Good luck.

Theres no confrontation. DO you think your the first new person to try and justify WRONG info based on what their doctor or endo told them. For the record the majority of endo's know SHIT unless it comes from a book. Not real life applications. So if thats your security blanket and where your info is coming from then good luck. Your PCT is SHIT. Nolvadex and clomid will NOT help your natural test recover. You and your endo's are doing more harm than good with your PCT. Unless your gyno prone your running too much AI. You shouldnt even need an AI at that dose of test.
Obviously your set on long term heart side effects so enjoy the clen. And obviously your ok with retaining water and having major glucose fluctuation with GHRP 6 instead of a better peptide.

These awsome male hormone specializing endo's and MD's are also the same variety of "specialists" that that like to put people on HRT with test doses every 2,3 even 4 weeks. They like to give people a hormonal roller coaster ride which is way more unhealthy than the low test they came in with to begin with. Use your doctors to monitor your bloodwork. Doctors know dick about cycling.
If they were at all intelligent then they would have warned you that clen will ruin your heart. (but you dont want to hear that). If you need clen then you obviously dont understand how to diet or how stupid it is to go right from cycling to a catabolic agent like clen. They also would have told you that nolvadex can cause blood clots in the legs/lungs and that AAS increases RBC. Good combo. Great doctors. Good plan.
 
What a absolute disaster. Throw it out the window. Why is it so difficult for to do research? But yet a Dr knows best? I feel sorry for you. I doubt you will be back in 6 months to a year when your pct has failed and you are bonerless.


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First off I did change it. Second If I believed everything these guys said (as well as a former Mr. Florida I know), I wouldn't be posting asking for advice. I of course have read a variety of forum comments on PCT/ETC and THEY ARE DIFFERENT EVERY TIME. Also I wasnt ragging on you about my sources, I was answering your question which was - Where did you get this?

Now some explanation. I pulled the Nolva for intra cycle as you recommended. I left it only if Gyno symptoms occurred (hopefully they wont). As I think I mentioned I do get gyno symptoms on cycle so that is why I left the Anastrozole (and they came in 1mg capsules not tabs). I left the Clen because it worked so well in the past, but I did reduce. Based on the passion in your post - Ill pull it out. Consider it done. HCG I changed to intra cycle as well at 250 iu every other day (which seems to be the consistent recommendation). PCT I have seen things all over the map. You say Clomid and Nolva do jack... but looking at the forums you recommend they all say to use them. So what do you recommend for PCT. The best compromise I came up with from all the forums is what I had listed. I'd prefer not to just get raked over the coals, but a recommendation. Again I subscribe to all the boards to better my knowledge. Most guys just take the Dr's rec, or do something stupid their friend told them. Im at least reading books, listening to the Dr's, listening to world class body builders and posting on this forum to get clarification.

So again recognizing that I DID listen to you, and I just did again - Advice without the hostility.
 
For someone who doesnt compete listening to world class BBr's is a mistake too. My bro is 6'3" , 285 about 10%bf. Enormous. He is trained by a IFBB pro. His training, his cycles, his pct's ect. Its all good except his PCT. I was shocked at what awful advice he was given for PCT. I have since correct it for him and he is reaping the rewards from it.
The moral is for us in the middle of the game who dont compete pro's advice isnt good either and docs know even less.
As for PCT look at your other thread where i commented. You will find that this board is very very different in PCT advice and philosophy than any other board out there. Most of them think we are crazy. PCT has evolved dramatically. Most people refuse to buy into it. Clomid run in a very low dose like 12.5-25mg ED is fine if you must have it. Nolvadex is outdated garbage with a long list of nasty sides. Its sides suck for the women that take it for its intended purpose.
NOW...your going to notice that some of the killer supps that are recommended are sold by sponsors here. I can see where most people go "ahhhhh ok...I get the sales pitch now" ...believe me I know how it can look.
I have been here for 12 years or so..... I'm not affiliated with anyone here except myself. I dont care who the sponsors are and who sells what. If it works I will tell you. If its shit....I probably wont bash a sponsor in open forum but I will PM someone not to waste their cash.
When I recommend things like Unleashed, Hcgenerate...ect I do so because I know they work from personal experience. I hate salesman and I hate to be sold something.
HCgenerate and unleashed are awsome. They do what they say they are supposed to.
There are other things that will help immensely like HMG. Proper PCT isnt cheap
 
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