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advice on a dianabol liquidex cycle

biglink

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Im 23 6'2" 225. I have been lifting heavily for five years and believe I am ready to try gear. I have been doing alot of research and plan on continuing to research. I want to start my cycle in the fall.

Here is what I had in mind:

25mg dbol ed week 1-6
.25mg liquidex week 1-6
30mg liquinolva week 7
20mg liquinolva week 8
10mg liquinolva week 9
UNLEASHED week 7-9
Liv-52 week 1-9

I will also be taking arginine-ornithine, glutamine, and creatine on cycle.

I am looking for any and all feedback. Is the liquinolva necessary? will i experience any shut down? i may work some sustanon into the cycle at 250mg twice a week but i kind of want to leave it out for this first try.

when should i take the dbol and liquidex? all at once or what?

thanks for your help
 
Instead of taking DBol with liquidex, just take TBol.

TBol is just DBol that doesent convert to estrogen.
 
if your thinking about sust then i would suggest to just take the sust and save the dbol for next cycle. sust 250mg/2 week will be an awesome 1st cycle. the dbol will require a pct because it will effect levels. for pct read nelsons thread or PP thread.
 
Always split up dbol doses. No need for nolva on cycle unless you have sides. Even then there is better out there then nolva for this.
 
biglink said:
Im 23 6'2" 225. I have been lifting heavily for five years and believe I am ready to try gear. I have been doing alot of research and plan on continuing to research. I want to start my cycle in the fall.

Here is what I had in mind:

25mg dbol ed week 1-6
.25mg liquidex week 1-6
30mg liquinolva week 7
20mg liquinolva week 8
10mg liquinolva week 9
UNLEASHED week 7-9
Liv-52 week 1-9

I will also be taking arginine-ornithine, glutamine, and creatine on cycle.

I am looking for any and all feedback. Is the liquinolva necessary? will i experience any shut down? i may work some sustanon into the cycle at 250mg twice a week but i kind of want to leave it out for this first try.

when should i take the dbol and liquidex? all at once or what?

thanks for your help

drop the creatine unless you like water retention
 
dbol mono??? dont like it at all... much better a only test cycle... 250 mg sust x 8 or 10 weeks will be much better...
 
im pretty set on dbol only. the main reason most people dont like it is because the gains are false water gains. but thats why im going to take liquidex to eliminate the bloat. Thus i wont lose water weight when i stop cycle. with proper pct, which i think i have, and a good diet as well as continuing to work just as hard off cycle i will make gains and keep them.

dianabol was used for decades as a stand alone and pct was unheard of back then. with the knowledge we have now i dont understand why people flame it so much
 
Well... do you think that the liquidex is going to transform water into muscle??? make some sence man, if the main reason why people dont like dbol only cycles is 'cause the water, well.. that means that no matter what, most of the wins are just water and not enough muscles... and you WILL get bloated, no matter what you take... or do you think that only people that dont take anti-e or AI while on cycle get bloated??, , gains wont be the best, besides that's a oral 17aa, your liver wont be very greatfull... there are much better things to use, much safer for a first cycle,if you want something soft... you might even go with a stano only cycle, much better than a dbol only cycle... By the way, I hate monocycles...
 
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