Adderall and Steroids

[Discreet User]

Any thoughts on combining the focus enhancing drug Adderall and AAS?

I'm enrolled in a very challenging Doctoral Degree program.

I've never used Adderall or anything like it, but professionals have recommended that I do use it in order to help improve my academic performance.

I cycle on and off AAS year-round...

 

[hurricane]

Adderall will kill your appetite ..especially if u are a noob to it

 

[dylangemelli]

you need to do some serious research on adderall before you even think about touching it... its basically like taking xxx in a medicated form... its not someting you should take while cycling at all and I wouldn't recommend it at all to anyone... I have never seen anyone take it without abusing it... You need to think hard before you use it...

 

[Arabian]

This has been debated before on here. Adderall has side effects like , insomnia, anxiety and can induce panic attacks in higher doses. Certain steroids like Tren can also increase anxiety and insomnia , so my only concern would be two compounds that are known for these classic sides. You can try it and see if you can gradually start a cycle by starting at reduced dosages.

 

[igomad]

adderall will also increase your BP, add some AAS into the mix ... Probably not a good idea.

 

[motorcyclegiant]

Ive struggled for years with interupting people, starting multiple projects and only finishing 95% of each, ive always been organized but its a huge huge battle, also in the past 5 years thought my nemory was just shit.
Went to see a psychologist, they did a comprehensive study and testing....diagnosed with ADHD, prescribed adderall, its been like the movie with the smart pill "limitless", I have ultra focus, I can have conversations and remember what was said, I dont interupt people, and the memory thing wasnt my memory, it was because I didnt "listen" to people. I was worried, but after studying the effects of not enough dopamine and its relationship to the left/right brain cross comunication, I decided to try it. I have not once felt I was "on drugs", it just chilled me out. I have no problems eating, although it is easy to become absorbed in a task and "forget" to eat. My pulse and bp have actually Decreased, today my pulse was 62 bpm and blood pressure 113/80.
I have not taken it a few times and had no ill effects, other than the paying attention piece.

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[Discreet User]

Ive struggled for years with interupting people, starting multiple projects and only finishing 95% of each, ive always been organized but its a huge huge battle, also in the past 5 years thought my nemory was just shit.
Went to see a psychologist, they did a comprehensive study and testing....diagnosed with ADHD, prescribed adderall, its been like the movie with the smart pill "limitless", I have ultra focus, I can have conversations and remember what was said, I dont interupt people, and the memory thing wasnt my memory, it was because I didnt "listen" to people. I was worried, but after studying the effects of not enough dopamine and its relationship to the left/right brain cross comunication, I decided to try it. I have not once felt I was "on drugs", it just chilled me out. I have no problems eating, although it is easy to become absorbed in a task and "forget" to eat. My pulse and bp have actually Decreased, today my pulse was 62 bpm and blood pressure 113/80.
I have not taken it a few times and had no ill effects, other than the paying attention piece.

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Great post, thanks.

I might PM you with some specific questions.

 

[hurricane]

Ive struggled for years with interupting people, starting multiple projects and only finishing 95% of each, ive always been organized but its a huge huge battle, also in the past 5 years thought my nemory was just shit.
Went to see a psychologist, they did a comprehensive study and testing....diagnosed with ADHD, prescribed adderall, its been like the movie with the smart pill "limitless", I have ultra focus, I can have conversations and remember what was said, I dont interupt people, and the memory thing wasnt my memory, it was because I didnt "listen" to people. I was worried, but after studying the effects of not enough dopamine and its relationship to the left/right brain cross comunication, I decided to try it. I have not once felt I was "on drugs", it just chilled me out. I have no problems eating, although it is easy to become absorbed in a task and "forget" to eat. My pulse and bp have actually Decreased, today my pulse was 62 bpm and blood pressure 113/80.
I have not taken it a few times and had no ill effects, other than the paying attention piece.

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Ok but that is you.Different people have different side effects.Many people experience sides such as loss of appetite; nausea or even more serious sides as seizures, heart attacks, high blood pressure, stroke etc etc, due to addrell..Not something to mix lightly with steriods friend.

 

[-SD-]

I used it in college for your same reasons and i ended up taking too much and spilled the beans to the doc about it after staying up 48 hours straight. Never again

 

[zsimpson22]

I've taken adderall many times, and I'm even prescribed other focus enhancing medicine called concerta which is very similar. I hate taking it. Even though it does make me concentrate better and make me feel like a rocket scientist, from a weight gaining standpoint, it blows. I have no appetite whatsoever when I do. From my experience, I just advise you to take it on days you absolutely need to focus hard, such as before big tests, or on review days

 

[Discreet User]

Thanks for the great feedback, guys.

The appetite-reducing property of adderral isn't very appealing...

 

[magman1]

Been on for about four years. Work in investment banking, was studying for the CFA, etc. Truly needed it. And it helped me go the bathroom which was great. Four years later, I'd say I'm pretty much addicted and the drug has diminishing effects over time. Be careful and I would not take every day.

 

[macapple]

you need to do some serious research on adderall before you even think about touching it... its basically like taking xxx in a medicated form... its not someting you should take while cycling at all and I wouldn't recommend it at all to anyone... I have never seen anyone take it without abusing it... You need to think hard before you use it...

There is no merit behind this post just your opinion with no discussed experience. As motorcyclegiant posts, it can do amazing things for people who suffer from ADHD.

Ok but that is you.Different people have different side effects.Many people experience sides such as loss of appetite; nausea or even more serious sides as seizures, heart attacks, high blood pressure, stroke etc etc, due to addrell..Not something to mix lightly with steriods friend.

With all due respect, you said it here yourself "different people have different side effects." If you're seriously in need of a drug and use it for it's intended purposes the sides are less noticeable because most people are happy to relieve the aliment. I'm not saying the sides are not there but maybe much more acceptable.

This has been debated before on here. Adderall has side effects like , insomnia, anxiety and can induce panic attacks in higher doses. Certain steroids like Tren can also increase anxiety and insomnia , so my only concern would be two compounds that are known for these classic sides. You can try it and see if you can gradually start a cycle by starting at reduced dosages.

I am a perfect example of "different people have different side effects". I am the complete opposite of most people on Tren... Days I inject I sleep like a baby but I also loose my appetite as the day goes on....where most people seem to can't get enough food.

I think anyone should always be careful when mixing any types of drug together but certain things can be mixed safely and to the benefit of the individual. However, I would never mix two new drugs together that you have never taken before. If you have never taken adderall or ritalin before the time to start is not while cycling. But....if it is a drug you have regularly used in the past you should feel comfortable using while on cycle, assuming you're cycle is going smooth. I have safely taken adderall, ritalin and xanax while cycling with no unwanted side effects.

 

[motorcyclegiant]

I think the facts are that I see no one in the wrong, I agree with both sides. I do think that drugs, hormones, foods, etc all have very different effects in individuals. I do however believe that people often are either misdiagnosed or lead their docs to make a diagnoses, and if these people do not truly suffer from a defficiency of dopamine they are going to have a completely different reaction. I was extremely biased Against it, until I sought a comprehensive diagnoses, and studied the information I was given. I fully understood the relationship between the chemical function of the brain. I still wasnt convinced, and I am still cautious, however it has been a completely positive experience....So Far...I dont take drugs lightly and the jury is still out on my final thoughts. I may end up worse off, or maybe not. For now, it has had a massive impact on my life. I have way more patience, rarely get angry, great memory, clear vision, and a much greater appreciation for others ideas and thoughts. Hopefully I dont become an addict and steal toasters to buy meth. I will be vigilant in my awareness of its impact on me.

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[SWOLNUTZ]

I too went through college and my experience with adderall, now looking back on it, was not a helpful one. Personally, my ability to do higher level maths decreased as I did adderall. My writing ability suffered as well. You should consider that it will disrupt your sleep pattern. Adderall works well for about 1 month, then everything starts to catch up with you. Because you're not getting in the deeper stage sleep, even if you sleep enough time, you're exhausted without popping an adderrall. Don't get me wrong, it has its merits, but if you're doing something that requires higher level thinking, like physics/chemistry/math...I would avoid it. I am saying this from personal experience. A well rested mind is most effective. Amphetamines disrupt your sleep pattern and over time, your effectiveness decreases.

-SWOLNUTZ

 

[idub2121]

So, in summation, the majority of the negatives posts here I believe come from people who did not need adderall and abused it. Although adderall has many side effects, many of them can be avoided. Adderall will effect your sleep pattern IF you take it within hours of when you intend to sleep (so if you need to stay up all night doing a paper, plan on really being up all night). It can affect your appetite, but that effect can be reduced by taking a smaller dose. Also, I recommend not using the drug unless you actually have ADD or ADHD, as you shouldn't need it. As far as its effects with AAS, mixing any two drugs like that can be problematic, so proceed with caution.

 

[Discreet User]

This thread is full of useful and interesting information; thanks guys.

I am really on the fence when it comes to Adderall.

I hate the sound of the side effects, and definitely do not want to disrupt my sleep patterns.

The reality is, I am faced with a doctorate level course of study, and unfortunately the creativity and personality that propelled me to success in business, is not helping me much in school.

I need to be able to focus. And unfortunately, even when I force myself, it seems my focus is not always sufficient.

Sometimes I feel as though it takes the entire force of my will just to stay seated in my chair...

 

[motorcyclegiant]

I couldnt tell you what adderall would be like for someone without dopamine defficiency (adhd)
A couple melatonin an hour before bed, and I sleep fine.

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[MrSwole]

Hi guys, I have been a long time lurker on a the board and a member and staff on a few other popular ones, this topic made me join as I find it important to understand how amphetamine salts affect different people differently .

I myself work in the medical field in endocrinological research, while not necessarily very useful for this topic it is overall for the knowledge of AAS. I am also someone who has been taking Adderall, both the IR and XR for a number of years due to ADHD.

So why does it affect different people in different ways? Easiest way to put it is by explaining the 2 sub types of ADHD that most people are not aware of. The most common one is ADHD Hyperactive and Impulsive thats the one you always hear about, people constantly talking. changing subjects, non stop movement and overall overly excited. Adderall or any other stimulant (think cocaine) will calm those people down, sometimes even make them sleepy, dependent on the dose, but if the release is proper they will focus and function normally. A higher dose of Adderall is required here 40-60mg

Now second subtype is what I have and it is ADHD - Inattentive. Here are some of the traits, your forget or disregard mundane task such as closing cupboard doors or puting the toilet sit down, you love to start new projects, but tend to lose interest in them fast and stop 1/3 of the way, your condo/house is a big mess, your paper work is disorderly and you constantly pay your bills late even though you have the money.
You procrastinate a LOT with mundane tasks.
A lower dose of Adderall is required 10-30mg. The salt will basically make you more want to do things you normally don't like doing and finishing, cleaning, taxes, reading text books, finishing projects etc.

Now someone who does not have ADHD and who takes Adderall should NEVER start wtih more then 10mg a day, even 5 would suffice for most, that dose should be MORE then enough to give you the drive and the focus that you need to complete what ever you need to. Also Amphetamines at controlled doses have been shown to have anabolic properties, and have a significant impact on your metabolic rate which makes them more adequate for cutting then Clen since they do not have the horrible side effects and don't pound down your Beta 2 receptors for nothing causing irrecuperable damage in times. It also decreases prolactin buildup, so can be quite synergetic with 19Nors

The hunger issue on amphetamines is caused by the dopamine release, basically your brain is content, not thirsty, not hungry and your forget to pee at times, but when you start eating, give it 2-3 bites and bam hunger is there and you will finish your meal (at controlled sub 20mg doses)



As long as you do NOT over abuse it, Adderall will not hinder your bodybuilding and cycling. I would suggest the XR version for what you need.

Feel free to ask me questions if you have in regards to this or any endocrine issues, I am a bit all over the net on the boards so pardon me if I take some time to reply.

Mr.s

 

[mstiles87]

I've been prescribed both adderall and concerts in the past helped me concentrate but as soon as it wore off I crashed. Got to the point the adderall fucked up dopamine where I it severely depressed. Came off after two months I was right as rain. Not something to be takn lightly.

 

[jimroid31]

Have used it recently as a pick me up in the morning. I must say that I had no problem staying at the gym to lift for 2 to 3 hours when on it. Never had a problem with it killing my appetite as I always eat regardless of what my stomach tells me.

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[-SD-]

All drugs have side effects, adderall is no exception

 

[kravmaga02]

When I was prescribed to it in college I never slept or ate and I absolutely HAD to either smoke or dip all the time I was on it. Sh*t sucks man, I hate it. When I stopped taking it I gained 60 lbs in a little under two years just cuz I started eating and sleeping again.

 

[rambleJ535]

The issue lies with people who do not suffer from add. They take it and its effects are just like method like mentioned earlier, but for those who truly suffer from add adderal will actually calm them down and allow them to focus.

 

[kravmaga02]

The issue lies with people who do not suffer from add. They take it and its effects are just like method like mentioned earlier, but for those who truly suffer from add adderal will actually calm them down and allow them to focus.

If you have ADHD then it calms you down. ADD by itself is not due to hyperactivity, just the inability to focus.

So if you're like me, not hyper but just unable to focus for long periods of time, then it unfortunately still hits you like a dose of meth lol

 

[-SD-]

So if you're like me, not hyper but just unable to focus for long periods of time, then it unfortunately still hits you like a dose of meth lol

Yea that was my situation really sucked because of the focus benefits

 

[JTJT123]

Any thoughts on combining the focus enhancing drug Adderall and AAS?

I'm enrolled in a very challenging Doctoral Degree program.

I've never used Adderall or anything like it, but professionals have recommended that I do use it in order to help improve my academic performance.

I cycle on and off AAS year-round...

I wouldn't bother with adderall except maybe in extreme circumstances when you need to cram. The thing about amphetamines-in my experience-is that they work well when used intermittently but with chronic use they lose effectiveness and you're left with more negatives than positives. A better choice would be to pick one of the racetams and eat eggs for choline. Also useful-acetyl l-carnitine with alpha lipoic acid and lion's mane. If you're the type that thinks over the counter stuff is useless you could look into provigil as well, which is probably safer than adderral though it hasn't been around as long so who knows.

 

[ballslee]

you should consider vyvanse. it is very similar to adderall, yet it is much better at allowing you to eat. eating makes it work better, which is the opposite of adderall because adderall is absorbed and stays in the stomach, but vyvanse is ingested and absorbed in the small intestine.

vyvanse is lighter on the stimulant side because it is extrremly long lasting 12 hours, so you have to take it in the morning. it is better to sleep on, and you don't get as 'high' as you would on adderall, so hence less crashes and irritability like adderall.

i have cycled and taken both while doing my masters. It did help with school, but ultimately i would say don't take it. because your life will be forever changed. you will associated doing activities and tasks with a pill, and it is impossible to rid yourself of that. whether you quit taking it or not, you will always have this thought man i would kill this if i took one. i am on a dosing protocol to stop taking it right now, and it is very hard to do while working a job 40 hours a week and maintain a normal life. so unless you want to go to rehab or take a month off of work/school when you finish in order to come off of it, then life will be difficult from then on. on a different note, adderall is easier to stop taking than vyvanse because it is not as long lasting.

 

[JoeBlob]

Like said before, Adderall or vyvanse can be a GREAT drug IF YOU HAVE ADD or ADHD. If you take it and you don't have it, you will have trouble sleeping, eating, etc. I'm prescribed to vyvanse and I have been since college and I don't have ADD. I used it as a crutch in college and I got to the point where I couldn't even do school work without it.

I'm telling you, it is best not to use it if you don't suffer from ADD. Vyvanse is a lot stronger than adderall in my opinion. I could always eat and sleep fine on adderall but not vyvanse.

From a weightlifting point of view I would say the cons outweigh the benefits. As a weightlifter whether you're on cycle or not; eating and sleeping are 2 of the most important things you can do. Pretty much the only real benefit would be that you can focus while in the gym. You will pound out every rep, etc. but when you're done, you usually feel like shit.

 

[mr.railgrinder]

I second the BP concern. Taking it because you feel you need to focus or get an edge is a bad idea. It is a powerful, addictive CNS stimulant. I guess I can't preach too much since I use AAS, but unless your doc gives it too you and moniters your health I would scrap the idea.

Just cause you pour syrup on shit don't make it pancakes.

 

[ScottBoston]

Hi I think the answer you provided about adderal and steroids was the most useful for me. I have a few questions I have been taking adderal fir about a year I recently started snorting 2 30s a day! I am 38 years old I was always in shape until I hit ABOUT 35. I used to weigh 165lbs and was doing 60 pushups in 59 seconds I was always ripped well slowly i stopped workin out and got up to 206lbs I'm 5 10. Adderall gives me a nasty temper I get easily aggiatated I try to stay to my prescribed dose of 2 a day But as soon as I'm stressed I'm doing a Adderall. Its not good my fiance hates when Its time to refill them every month. At night I take 2mg of xanex to sleep. But I also have lost any sexdrive and muscle my testosterone must have dropped do to these drugs. So I am starting a cycle today. My buddy said the cycle will make me fell 18 again and I'm thinking that will help me cut out the Adderall. MY girl says I don't have adhd that's why Adderall makes my temper so bad and my fuse so short? Any advice?

 

[Liquid 2009]

Scott,

First, why would you snort them? The fact that you snort them tells me you don't do it because you need it. It's for the recreational effects obviously. It's messing you up more than you know. You're messing up your relationship and hindering your gains. Effecting your sleep and adding more medicine to take away the insomnia caused by Adderall.

Get yourself off that stuff. Once you do you won't need Xanax to sleep and you'll start getting the results you want.

 

[j_p]

Hi I think the answer you provided about adderal and steroids was the most useful for me. I have a few questions I have been taking adderal fir about a year I recently started snorting 2 30s a day! I am 38 years old I was always in shape until I hit ABOUT 35. I used to weigh 165lbs and was doing 60 pushups in 59 seconds I was always ripped well slowly i stopped workin out and got up to 206lbs I'm 5 10. Adderall gives me a nasty temper I get easily aggiatated I try to stay to my prescribed dose of 2 a day But as soon as I'm stressed I'm doing a Adderall. Its not good my fiance hates when Its time to refill them every month. At night I take 2mg of xanex to sleep. But I also have lost any sexdrive and muscle my testosterone must have dropped do to these drugs. So I am starting a cycle today. My buddy said the cycle will make me fell 18 again and I'm thinking that will help me cut out the Adderall. MY girl says I don't have adhd that's why Adderall makes my temper so bad and my fuse so short? Any advice?

stop using uppers than downers to try sleep maybe?.......
you clearly hae an issue with it and you know it, and its effecting your personallife. bite the bullet and detox and accept you will feel crappy for a few weeks...

and dont snort pills... you have other issues other than what drug you are using that I feel you need to sort out...
dont add more drugs to try cover the issues...

 

[j_p]

Scott,

First, why would you snort them? The fact that you snort them tells me you don't do it because you need it. It's for the recreational effects obviously. It's messing you up more than you know. You're messing up your relationship and hindering your gains. Effecting your sleep and adding more medicine to take away the insomnia caused by Adderall.

Get yourself off that stuff. Once you do you won't need Xanax to sleep and you'll start getting the results you want.

^^^ Agreed!