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tboy72

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today was the last of my var cycle! it was far better then i could have expected! i know this is hard to believe for some, but i went from 220 to 228 and down to a lil over 10 % bf....from 16-18% i got VERY strong vascular.
i decided since this was a var only cycle im gonna keep the pct at a min....
this was my first cycle too!
now for thoes of you with having been where i am now.......how much strength and size am i going to loose? will i continue to make slow gains if i keep working hard and dieting? at least till june when i do another var cycle (imma add some test and eq next time)
i just didnt want it to end:(
bt the way it was 8 weeks of btg 25 mgs a day first 5 weeks then went up to 40 mgs a day suplementing papervar with my btg!
 
great to here you had such good results with var.

as for keeping gains, it shouldn't be very hard with var, do an appropriate pct, keep diet in check, reduce training volume appropriately, and you should be set.

you can still make gains while off provided you are not above your genetic max.
 
am i right that btg 10mg is about equal to about 20mg paper var???

would this be about right????
 
BIC said:
am i right that btg 10mg is about equal to about 20mg paper var???

would this be about right????

Im not sure the difference is quite that much, but BTG var is the best!

2nd is spa, 3rd is paper IMO.
 
I though var did nt suppress much either but iu was wrong i learned it shuts you down...for my pct i was gonna use hcg and nolvadex for it
 
HAYEZ said:
I though var did nt suppress much either but iu was wrong i learned it shuts you down...for my pct i was gonna use hcg and nolvadex for it

The idea that var isn't suppresive is a myth. I think the its confused with the fact that it is easy to recover from.

HCG and nolva will work fine for PCT for var.
 
Great gains! I just got done a Var cycle gained 14lbs and kept most of it lost about 2lbs and strength is still good.
 
i was mixing the btg and paper twards the end.....btg was GREAT! then when i bumped with the paper it was even better.....the thing is next cycle i do probably wont have the btg in it......its soooooooooooooo expensive especially if you KNOW its from the pharmacy....so if 10 mgs btg does equal 20 paper then its still gonna be cheaper.. imma do 60 mgs paper or BD.....has anyone had experience with BD?
anyways mookie you lost 2 lbs and strength is still good? how much did your strength fall off? was it depressing?
 
Strength is still good not depressing at all very happy with it. Bloodwork checked out alright and kept most of my strength. BD is very good not as good as BTG but still pretty damn good.
 
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