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A nervous time for sports dopers

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Remember BALCO? At first it seemed like a weird little sports story, but before long it created this yawning chasm that swallowed some of the biggest names in athletics.

Well, Germany just had its BALCO moment, and the implications are international.

(I don't assume this has anything to do with the NBA. But I similarly don't assume it has nothing to do with the NBA. You know what I mean?)

The story is that there has long been a shadowy company called International Pharmaceuticals that supplies all kinds of anabolic steroid users. One of the founders of the company has reportedly admitted to having authored, under a fake name, the 1000-plus page bible of taking such drugs, called "Anabolic Steroids -- The Black Book."

For decades the company has been known to be operating (at one point even giving an anonymous interview to some musclehead magazine) but impossible to pin down. Recently, however, authorities busted their way into a warehouse in rural Germany and found millions of pills, ampules and syringes, worth a fortune. It took 19 pallets to haul it all away. And there have been many arrests, including of IP's founder and his longtime accomplice, a dishonorably discharged German police officer.

In the German magazine Spiegel, Cathrin Gilbert (translated by Christopher Sultan) writes:

The defendants have already been questioned. Lothar H. is in pretrial detention in Giessen, while Paul R. is being held in Wiener Neustadt, south of Vienna. The prosecutors expect to file an indictment within the next four weeks. The two men are said to be willing to cooperate. The respective attorneys of both defendants, Lothar H. and Paul R., were unwilling to comment on the charges when approached by SPIEGEL.

One thing is certain: There must be plenty of athletes who are suddenly feeling very nervous. ...

A business relationship apparently existed between someone at IP and an Austrian sports manager. In an interrogation, the investigators discovered that the manager had a list of the names of many international professional athletes who had ordered performance-enhancing drugs from him.

The list was not found during an initial search. The agents suspect that the document was shredded.

They are confident, however, that they will eventually be able to reconstruct the list.

It's worth reading the whole article -- not with a "gotcha" attitude, like there are sure to basketball players on the list. (There's no suggestion of any NBA or basketball player involvement at all.) But instead to be aware of what's possible, and what's happening, in sports here and around the globe. If athletes are getting away with taking substances that would help in hoops, the place for those athletes to realize the most value of those drugs is in the NBA. We can't reasonably not pay attention.

Now the hunt begins for the customers who ordered from IP. In the 2006 interview, the IP dealers talked about a designer steroid that was popular among "European competitive athletes" for a time. "It helped many drug-tested competitors use steroids even on the day of testing, with no failures ever," they told the interviewer.

In addition to the performance-enhancing drugs, the investigators found three mobile phones, a briefcase with written records and price lists with the first names of large numbers of buyers at the IP warehouse in Nidda-Wallernhausen. They also seized 500,000 labels and a laptop computer.

The defendants have already been questioned. Lothar H. is in pretrial detention in Giessen, while Paul R. is being held in Wiener Neustadt, south of Vienna. The prosecutors expect to file an indictment within the next four weeks. The two men are said to be willing to cooperate. The respective attorneys of both defendants, Lothar H. and Paul R., were unwilling to comment on the charges when approached by SPIEGEL.

One thing is certain: There must be plenty of athletes who are suddenly feeling very nervous.
 
Great news! Crack down on those evil steroid users!! How dare they want to perform better, look better or feel better! Great use of resources so all the human traffickers, child flesh peddlers and opium growers can rest easier knowing that they're safe bc the government is looking for juice suppliers. Fuckin' a man, fuckin' a.
 
Agreed, ^^. Government resources and taxpayer money could go toward something more dangerous or a global issue like terrorism, illegal immigration, or illegal drugs such as meth or heroin. Instead they use it on something that shaves of milliseconds from you 40 time...waste
 
It's a fact of life that the man don't give a shit about us. If it get's him re-elected, makes him more money they will bust whomever they can. Even the ultra evil steroid users just look for hormone replacement, longevity, physique (which is better for your mental well being than any anti-depressant) etc. I could care less who uses steroids. I want to know who is using/selling crack, heroin, etc Peddling in child porn/prostitution etc.
 
It's a fact of life that the man don't give a shit about us. If it get's him re-elected, makes him more money they will bust whomever they can. Even the ultra evil steroid users just look for hormone replacement, longevity, physique (which is better for your mental well being than any anti-depressant) etc. I could care less who uses steroids. I want to know who is using/selling crack, heroin, etc Peddling in child porn/prostitution etc.


agreed, the amount of 'un-disputable' problems that weigh heavily against other substances cannot be denied.

meaning there is evidence behind, most substances other than juice being more dangerous to health, less beneficial, more addicted what have you...

fact problem:

meaning: morality cannot conflict with facts

unfortunately alot of the laws and gov decisions are based on morality,

and morality, well, shoot thats based on w.e the hell u want it to be ! lol
 
Never understood why steriods have been outlawed as they are for consumers not involved in professional sports. For one if you slap a age restriction on it along with proper education we would prevent (as much as possible) underage use and mis use. Second the more you outlaw it the further underground you push it, and at that point you dont know what your getting. Third the gov. could make a profit from it just as they could with weed (Im not a smoker just saying).... who is really getting hurt by steriods besides potentially the user? steriods do not fund terrorism, murder, prostitution, ect.... so why put the effort into it? never understood it.
 
Never understood why steriods have been outlawed as they are for consumers not involved in professional sports. For one if you slap a age restriction on it along with proper education we would prevent (as much as possible) underage use and mis use. Second the more you outlaw it the further underground you push it, and at that point you dont know what your getting. Third the gov. could make a profit from it just as they could with weed (Im not a smoker just saying).... who is really getting hurt by steriods besides potentially the user? steriods do not fund terrorism, murder, prostitution, ect.... so why put the effort into it? never understood it.

Probably because since most of the effective blends have been invented 50 years ago no big pharma company can patent them. IE if steroids were legalized a huge generic market will spring up and big companies wouldn't be able to charge the usual "Research & Development" premium they usually do. Besides that steroids will also destroy anti depressant, anxiety, ED and a bunch of other pill sales...basically the Worst Case scenario for any big pharmaceutical company in USA.
 
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