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A few Q's about major's and minor's in college. And opinion of psychology (please!)

FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU DONT WANT TO TEACH, DONT GET A PSYCOLOGY DEGREE. THEY ARE USELESS UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE A PROFILER FOR THE FBI OR SOMETHING. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PH.D FOR THAT AND ATLEAST A MASTERS TO TEACH.


MAJORS AND MINORS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MASTERS DEGREES OR PH.D'S. YOU NEED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS (33 I THINK) IN A PARTICULAR SUBJECT AREA TO GET A MAJOR AND ATLEAST 18 IN A ANOTHER AREA TO GET A MINOR.

I HAVE A MAJOR IN FINANCE AND A MINOR IN ECON AND MANAGEMENT. THATS HOW IT WORKS FOR ME AT MY SCHOOL.


KAYNE
 
PSYCHIATRIST ISNT 16 YEARS. ITS ABOUT 12 I THINK. YOU HAVE TO GO TO MED SCHOOL FOR THIS. THESE ARE MD'S AND CAN WRITE PRESCRIPTIONS.


PSYCOLOGISTS DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO MED SCHOOL AND CANNOT WRITE PRESCRIPTIONS AS FAR AS I KNOW. MOSTLY JUST BEHAVIORAL AND CLINICAL SHIT. BORING. WASTE OF TIME IF YOU ARE NOT TEACHING IT. AND YOU WONT MAKE ANY REAL MONEY DOING THAT.



KAYNE
 
You do not need a phd in psychology to become a psychiatrist. The latter requires med school, the former does not. Under new training and licensure laws, it takes so long to get into business as a clinical psychologist, that you would be better off spending the extra years in psychiatry.

If your objectives are purely financial, I wouldn't bother with psychology. At the least, don't bother getting a clinical phd. Get a clinical master's. Most of the do as well as clinical phds now. Either way, you ain't gonna make nearly the money a psychiatrist does.

In my opinion, expecting a guaranteed income out of anything you undertake for study is foolish now. Look at IT. Psychology was quite profitable until 10 years ago. Nothing remains very stable any longer. (Now everyone is going into allied medical careeers like nursing.)
 
I have 2 courses left to finish a psych major and about 4-5 left to finish a bio major-- 2 to finish my chem minor. I really hate psych. I worked on two majors because that's what everyone did where I went to school. I took as many biology based psych courses as I could get away with. As the neurology/psychopharmacology side is where my interests are, it was a logical fit. Though I have to say that the non-bio based elements of psych bored me to tears.
 
psyche is not a real major to me, the science behind it is lacking in almost all field (except neuropsyche which most biologist do the real work). Engineering is good field and you make lots of money. Barring my distaste for sociology and psyche there are just too many psyche majors out there for anyone to find a good job, most of the time they end up doing social work.
 
If you want to be a productive member of society pursue the Engineering field, psychology on the other hand is worthless and is not a science, do not confuse the two.

You sound like you have "collegiate curriculum disorder", which I think was discussed on Oprah recently. You should have this checked out by a professional psychologist.
 
thanks a ton guys, I think I have seen the light :)

Psychology was just an interest for me, I thought the pay was good but I guess it's not. The idea of psychodynamics seemed like something I would like to do, but the more I think of it, the more I realize that's it's pretty much a deadend thing.

I guess my mind is made up, Engineering! Now engineering in what... :( . Anyone know what specializations are offered in the engineering field (and if there are different types of PhD's I can obtain from it)? I was thinking about going with Robotics, Aerospace, and Electrical since I think that stuff is like the wave of the future.
 
Irish BoneZ said:
thanks a ton guys, I think I have seen the light :)

Psychology was just an interest for me, I thought the pay was good but I guess it's not. The idea of psychodynamics seemed like something I would like to do, but the more I think of it, the more I realize that's it's pretty much a deadend thing.

I guess my mind is made up, Engineering! Now engineering in what... :( . Anyone know what specializations are offered in the engineering field (and if there are different types of PhD's I can obtain from it)? I was thinking about going with Robotics, Aerospace, and Electrical since I think that stuff is like the wave of the future.


just work on getting your major and minors with a decent GPA, shit if you are just starting then you still have to do like 40 credits of general course work.... You are thinking way too far ahead....
 
sereneman said:
An interesting so called fact about the head shrink proffesion. Shrinks have the highest rate of suicide of all the careers. I guess listening to other people's problems depresses the shit out of them.

No - the profession with the highest suicide rate is FARMING.

I would imagine that shrinks have a higher suicide rate than other docs though because a lot of people become shrinks due to being ill themselves or having been - skews the stats somewhat.

Anyway, I'm just finishing off a phd in Comp Sci. I would advise you that a PhD is really only worth it if you want to work as an academic or researcher. It's very interesting, BUT in psych the field is very competitive. There's not a lot of research money to go round and there are tons and tons and tons of very bright, capable people who major in psych every year. Don't ask me why it attracts quite so many young bright females, as the career opportunities are not that great. The money in research is not good but the work is very interesting.

If you want to be a counsellor, don't bother with a psych degree, do a counselling course. A lot of the stuff you will study as a psych major is stuff like cognitive theory, things to do with perception, the way the brain works, and very little clinical or abnormal psych, which is what you are interested in. You can do a masters after the degree if you want o practice as a psych in whatever field - clinical, industrial/labour relations, etc.

If you want to be an electrical engineer, go to an engineering school. You have to work hard to get good grades in either major, doing two degrees at the same time would be too much for most.

If you want to be a doctor, go to med school, do a psych internship, and see if you like it. It's a very depressing and underfunded area to work in. I've spent enough time as a patient in various psych wards to know. If you decide you don't like being a doctor, you can go into medical research. Make sure your premed is in a scientific discipline like microbiology or genetics, so you elarn basic scientific research methods. Then if you dorp out of med school, you can either go work as an industrial biologist/chemist, do a phd in your scientific spec (there's LOTS of money in the biological sciences to do research, mainly from Big Pharmacy).

The sad thing about psychology majors is that there are many many mediocre folks out there with a major in psych and you will have to prove every time that you are not one of them. Get into a good school, one where the individual department has a good rep - not just a school with a general good rep - and study hard and get As. Otherwise forget it.

BTW, can you major in psych then go to med school? This could be an interesting combination.
 
Why not go to university, take a little bit of everything for your first year, and figure out what you are interested in.

Highschool is in NO WAY a predictor of how well or how interested you are going to be at university.

I graduated highschool with a 60% average and graduated university on the deans list.


I say you go day by day, year by year, until you really know what you want.
 
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