Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 500 mg test E, not bunk because i checked it out, taking in 5000 cals a day eating 350 gm protein and sleeping 7-10 hrs a night. back decreased in strength and chest has increased 2 reps since i started (225 for 5 to 225 for7). this is fuckin bullshit can anyone tell me what might be wrong? im gaining weight (shitty bloaty pig fuckish blowfish i look like garbage weight) but no strength, and the whole reason im doing the cycle is to improve in the gym, not to improve on the scale.
8 weeks in and no gains...
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michaeltt said:you got bunk gear.
you are prolly bloated from all the carbs your eating.. 2 reps in 8 weeks aint so bad. keep your chin up.
2 reps in 8 weeks?! bro sorry to say but most people who naturally lift go up like 10 reps in 8 weeks and they dont eat half of what i do.
k send me the rest of your gear...damn wait its fake...lol jk...dont quit dude...thats pussy shitmarkshark said:
jacked clown
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Your gonna quit...well good do it and leave my gym i hate seeing you guys lifting anyway!!! J/k but if your gonna give up after all this time and effort i guess that sucks
look at what your saying bro...your gear is fake but u need to shoot fake shit in you to see gains?markshark said:
MeatheadJD
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people do not go up 10 reps in 8 weeksmarkshark said:
if they are anywhere close to their peak
THats like goin up 1 rep every work out that would be an amazing gain
And you said you got the gear tested?
I donno if i believe any of what your saying sorry
the reason i know it aint bunk is because at week 5 i went from using the 60s for shoulder press to the 80s and benching 185 to 225 for reps, but it quit since then, and ive even increase caloric consumption. and my body doesnt look decent at all. i jsut dont get it, what is the point of doin a cycle if you get the same gains and average person would get from like an NO2 creatine stack and have more bloat? i look like shit from gear i hate it fucking christ. it was a godsend at week 5-6 but after that it quit. maybe i should increase the 500 to 700? any opinions?
TheRipper
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Dude I had some stuff one time that made me bloat real bad and after I was finished all of it just started comming off in a couple of weeks.I did not gain alot of mass that cycle but I think the gear just was not right for me so I took what I always took before and got good results from.Dont give up.But if you are a quiter then give up and forget it all ever happened.
Ozz2001
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hmm pushing 225 7 times this means you should beable to push like 270 plus easy max that aint bad at all...If your bloating take a anti estrogen that will help yea out alot! Sometimes depending on your test levels before you did gear you need a certain amount to force muscle growth i found 750 works best for me...Everyones different but your gear could be under dosed too or bunk.If you want to look like a freak run tren and you wont be posting nothing but how amazing you are growing! GL
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Bruce
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you need to chill man. have the gear tested i don't think its real. maybe you made those gains naturally and you have plateaud now. since the gear isn't real you are not gonna see more gains. otherwise you need to train harder man or bump up to 750 cause with that caloric intake and protein comsumption it would have to be fake for you to not still be gaining
1UNDER
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Dude,chill out.
I've never seen anyone go up 10 reps in 8 weeks.
Stay focused.Drop some carbs.Add some adex for the bloat and get your ass back in the gym and do the best you can.
1 cycle of test is not going to change you all that much.That comes a little while down the road with more experience,knowledge and a couple of good stacks.
Good luck.
I've never seen anyone go up 10 reps in 8 weeks.
Stay focused.Drop some carbs.Add some adex for the bloat and get your ass back in the gym and do the best you can.
1 cycle of test is not going to change you all that much.That comes a little while down the road with more experience,knowledge and a couple of good stacks.
Good luck.
i guess i was just under the impression that by taking gear, lifting and eating til im ready to puke and rearranging my entire life to get more rest and sleep than ever before and sacrificing important things for my cycle such as skipping class to lift and eat and get more sleep that my weights would increase more than 1 or 2 fucking reps. i guess i shouldve thought of doing a dbol/adrol/fina/deca/test/tren/tbol/var/prop/suspension stack for 30 weeks straight and eating 12 cows a day and 57 bowls of oatmeal in order to get any gains. jesus fucking christ.
digimon7068
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markshark said:
Don't skip class to lift. Go to class, get good grades, get a good job, save some money, buy some good gear.
git_er_done
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Give it time buddy, maybe your body doesn't react as fast, or either your shit is bunk, but really don't give up. If you do, then you aren't meant to be taking any of this stuff anyways...good luck though hope things go better for ya.
monster2929
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ur being too critical of yourself but i guess thats what its all about what kind of gear u got?
fleabag711
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LMFAO!
I always like your post Markshark you sarcastic bastrd! I still dont have a personal source or I would send something your way, but that Tren acetate at a low dose sounds like it would take care of your problem.
I always like your post Markshark you sarcastic bastrd! I still dont have a personal source or I would send something your way, but that Tren acetate at a low dose sounds like it would take care of your problem.
git_er_done
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u can send some tren ace my way too
test E. i started 10 weeks ago a test cyp/deca cycle and in the middle realized i would need more so i asked my source for more and eventually the fuckass didnt get it in in time and i ran out of gear in 5 weeks, right as the cyp and deca were kickin in. then i had to wait 2 weeks with no injections and finally he got test E in for me and i started that and decided to start over and do this for 10 weeks since my original cycle was fucked up. im now 3 weeks into the test E and nothing is happening. i realize im only 3 weeks in but for fuckin shit sake the cyp shouldve still been in my system and shouldve automatically kicked in. now maybe i just gotta wait it out all over again. im never going to fuck up my planning or get an unreliable source again, but this is whats up right now.
git_er_done
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Sorry to hear that one bro, sounds like ur source fucked ya over on this one
git_er_done
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How are you planning on finishing out this cycle that you are one now?
1UNDER
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Are you sure you aint takin liquid estrogen.....jk.markshark said:
Shit bro,relax,you're on the right trak.Take a step back and re-evaluate what you're doing.You don't need to eat that much either.3 or 4 solid meals with a couple protein shakes and bars will do it(read the diet section).
git_er_done
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Well that would be two weeks from now since you said you were in week three, so if by week five you haven't started seeing results you and your source need to have a nice little talk. IMO.
git_er_done
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LOL either way, long as i had my money, or more gear free of charge it would be all good. Good luck with it though bro, keep us posted.
git_er_done
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Check out my thread on here, it is still on page one titled In three weeks and up 7lbs, my test is just kickin in.
git_er_done
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Well something isn't adding up right then, maybe since you took the time off, it is gonna take a little longer since Test E is a long lasting ester compared to the short esters, so hopefully the best is yet to come. Well i am gone to bed bro, like i said good luck with it, and keep us posted.
Test or not, you should still be making gains working out and getting enough sleep/food. I think your workout is whats to blame. I also think you are kinda going overboard on the calories/protein, and might gain a bit too much fat. If you haven't learned by now, lifting requires MUCH patience. Gains come, but often in spurts and sometimes you need to change things up. No trained person in the world, (who wasn't on mad aas) ever gained 10 reps in 8 weeks. Thats like going from doing a weight 2 times to 12 times. Going from 2 reps to 5/6 reps is a huge gain in 8 weeks. If your max was 250, you wouldn't be happy doing 250 4 times after 8 weeks??
Post your workout and maybe we can see what might be the problem.
Post your workout and maybe we can see what might be the problem.
Micker said:
heres the workout:
Monday:
-Bench Press 1 light warmup, 1 moderate warmup, 2 heavy sets
-incline dumbells, 1 light warmup, 2-3 sets of 6-8 reps
-incline and/or flat flyes, 3 sets of 8-10
-30 pushups
-3 sets incline situps for abs
Tuesday: off/rest/eat
Wednesday:
pullups 1 set of 15 to warmup
-preacher curls 1 light warmup, 1 moderate warmup of 8 easy reps, 2 sets of 4-8 reps
-upright rows 1 warmup, 2 sets of 4-6 reps
-incline curls 3 sets of 8-10
-bent over rows 3 sets of 6-8 reps
-one arm rows 3 sets 6-8 reps
-hammer curls 3 sets 8 reps
Thursday
Shoulder Dumbell presses 3X4-8 reps
-skull crushers 1 warmup, 2 sets 4-8 reps
-side laterals 3X8-10 reps
-one-arm tri extensions overhead 3X 6-8 reps
-press downs 3X10 reps
- 2 sets front raises for 10 reps
Friday- Off rest/eat
Saturday
Squats 3 sets 4-8 reps plus warmup
-stiff legged deads 3X10 reps
-leg extensions 3X6-10 reps
-seated calf raises 3X6-10 reps
-3 sets incline situps abs
Sunday- Off/rest/eat
..each workout takes no longer than 1 hour and i do it hard. i may sometimes take monday off too to take 4 days off in 8 days for extra rest.
OK CRITIQUE....
fugetaboutit
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Am I the only one that a) thinks this guy is a real young guy by the sounds of it? b) he's sounds like he's full of shit? and c)Did any one catch this too?...........he started a 10 week test cyp/deca cycle and mid-way through, week 5, he ran out of both. Takes 2 weeks without injections, finally gets his shit, and then decided to start his 10 week cycle all over again from scratch. This guy has no clue.
MeatheadJD
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whoa you said you checked out the stuff in the first post where did you check it out bc you are now saying your source is unreliable but why is he unreliable if you checked it out?markshark said:
i donno doesnt sound real to me
bro, i got some bunk gear for first time ever 2 mos ago. I was pissed. I did not quit training, not one day, but i was pissed. Now, i have a gr8 source, (dont ask) and my choices now for cycles are better. The cycle im 3 weeks into is kickin in strong and im happier than EVER. Getting bunk gear just makes yo that much more happier when you get your real shit next time.
fugetaboutit said:
im 23, im not full of shit or else i wouldnt have started the thread and wasted my time on it looking for advice, and what other choicewould i have if the source didnt get my shit in on time? yeah i agree i fucked up my planning and i wont do it again, but what choice do i have but toi start over. im not gonna just quit when shits kickin in, im ordering more. and i dont give too shits what i do to myself internally. for all i care i can have a fucking heart attack after the cycle, i just wanna look good and get pussy for maybe the first time ever. so fuck off bro.
dude i put on 14 lbs from just a 1ad 5wk cycle and avg calorie was 2900/day and 206 g protein/day...think you are not going as heavy as you can with the little # of sets you are doing for each muscle...
can't imagine when i get on a real cycle in a month or so of
sus 500mg for 12wks
eq 500mg for 12 wks
tbol 40mg/daily for 4 wks
i'm def will be busting my ass alot harder and taking in more cal/protein as well...
even if you did have bunk gear, you should have gains from training hard and eating more...
can't imagine when i get on a real cycle in a month or so of
sus 500mg for 12wks
eq 500mg for 12 wks
tbol 40mg/daily for 4 wks
i'm def will be busting my ass alot harder and taking in more cal/protein as well...
even if you did have bunk gear, you should have gains from training hard and eating more...
swordfish151
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Im going to go out on a limb here.....SHUT THE FUCK UP! I read all 3 pages of this retarded ass thread...from some crying 23 year old waiving his hand up in the air for some attention....so your shit was fake...it happens, get a better source move on...but shit like "im gonna go get tatts and piercings cause thats what bitches like" or "for all i care i have a heart attack, i just want some pussy"...Bro...grow the fuck up....i understand that one of the reasons most get on grear is to look good...and thats all gravy...but it seems like you have no clue at all....what you need to do is relax...re-evalute your situation and go from there...dont be so impatient....oh and with that cycle you started...the first one you poorly planned....i hope you dont think you were going to look like an adonis off that...it takes some years too even get to the point where you want to be...one cycle is not going to do it..... 
OOOOOOOOOOOWNEDswordfish151 said:Im going to go out on a limb here.....SHUT THE FUCK UP! I read all 3 pages of this retarded ass thread...from some crying 23 year old waiving his hand up in the air for some attention....so your shit was fake...it happens, get a better source move on...but shit like "im gonna go get tatts and piercings cause thats what bitches like" or "for all i care i have a heart attack, i just want some pussy"...Bro...grow the fuck up....i understand that one of the reasons most get on grear is to look good...and thats all gravy...but it seems like you have no clue at all....what you need to do is relax...re-evalute your situation and go from there...dont be so impatient....oh and with that cycle you started...the first one you poorly planned....i hope you dont think you were going to look like an adonis off that...it takes some years too even get to the point where you want to be...one cycle is not going to do it.....
swordfish151 said:Im going to go out on a limb here.....SHUT THE FUCK UP! I read all 3 pages of this retarded ass thread...from some crying 23 year old waiving his hand up in the air for some attention....so your shit was fake...it happens, get a better source move on...but shit like "im gonna go get tatts and piercings cause thats what bitches like" or "for all i care i have a heart attack, i just want some pussy"...Bro...grow the fuck up....i understand that one of the reasons most get on grear is to look good...and thats all gravy...but it seems like you have no clue at all....what you need to do is relax...re-evalute your situation and go from there...dont be so impatient....oh and with that cycle you started...the first one you poorly planned....i hope you dont think you were going to look like an adonis off that...it takes some years too even get to the point where you want to be...one cycle is not going to do it.....
the gear aint bunk bro i dont think you read what the fuck i was tryin to say. i made gains until week 5 and then they stopped. please read everything before you try flaming me with big ass letters. my question was why they fuck didd shit just stop. and i was FUCKING FRUSTRATED and thats why i went off. bro if youre gonna hate then dont read the thread.
u said u were running cyp...why didnt u ask your souerce for some cyp?
Maxx Out
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markshark said:
If ur 100% sure the gear isn't bunk then go back and start from scratch! Keep a log of what u eat for a week and analyse(sp) it, maybe ur not really eatng what u should be? Get blood work done to see if anything is off! Tear your routine apart! R u getting enough sleep! The answer is there bro, find it!
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firenwire
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Plat working?
Ok now I either call bullshit or no clue. Your responses and they way you type(how about a capital letter??) make you sound like a kid throwing a fit. If you aren't just bullshiting, then learn how to ask a question properly, like an adult. Put a few seconds of time into your posts by hitting the dam shift button. You should NOT be messing with steroids, you have done ZERO research and the guy who sold you that fake crap saw the words Clueless Sucker written on your forehead from a mile away.
Not to sound like a dick, but grow up a bit and take some things serious. You don't think using steroids deserves a bit of research and knowledge?? Grow up a bit, read and learn what you can about lifting and then worry about steroids. Your main problem is that building muscle takes time, effort and knowledge and your shortcut(steroids) isn't allowing you to bypass all that. You are pissed, because now you might actually have to take time to achieve something. People like you are the reason steroids are illegal.
Not to sound like a dick, but grow up a bit and take some things serious. You don't think using steroids deserves a bit of research and knowledge?? Grow up a bit, read and learn what you can about lifting and then worry about steroids. Your main problem is that building muscle takes time, effort and knowledge and your shortcut(steroids) isn't allowing you to bypass all that. You are pissed, because now you might actually have to take time to achieve something. People like you are the reason steroids are illegal.
Payneisglory
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Im gonna have to go ahead and say u got some fake shit.
Outtlaw
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I read all 4 fucking pages of this thread, and only 2 people out of everyone that posted on this thread even touched on what this guys problem is.
ITS YOUR TRAINING!!! I can tell just by your attitude towards gear. A lot of people think there's an easy way of bodybuilding or powerlifting, gaining strength, etc. But THERE IS NO EASY WAY OF DOING IT. It's all about busting your ass and working hard. Your whole attitude is that by taking X, Y, or Z you can make super strength gains without putting in any extra work. Well, it doesnt work that way. That's why your not making the gains you want, and that's why the guy who's natural will make more gains than you.
Keep thinking the way you do and keep half assing it in the gym and you'll never get anything more than half ass gains.
ITS YOUR TRAINING!!! I can tell just by your attitude towards gear. A lot of people think there's an easy way of bodybuilding or powerlifting, gaining strength, etc. But THERE IS NO EASY WAY OF DOING IT. It's all about busting your ass and working hard. Your whole attitude is that by taking X, Y, or Z you can make super strength gains without putting in any extra work. Well, it doesnt work that way. That's why your not making the gains you want, and that's why the guy who's natural will make more gains than you.
Keep thinking the way you do and keep half assing it in the gym and you'll never get anything more than half ass gains.
nishnish
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markshark said:
this is really worrisome. you seem very unstable, and radical hormonal changes can seriously exascerbate pre-existing problems with mood.
please, take a step back and assess what is important to you. if you don't value your own life then you are in a bad spot, i know because i have been there.
a great body is not the answer to all your problems. if you really want to get pussy then work on your mind and personality... girls are much more attracted to someone who knows how to engage them and excite their minds than some jacked dude with an empty heart.
i know how you feel bro, if you need to talk about shit you can pm me and i will be happy to go through it with you.
peace
MeatheadJD
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YOU THE MAN SWORDswordfish151 said:Im going to go out on a limb here.....SHUT THE FUCK UP! I read all 3 pages of this retarded ass thread...from some crying 23 year old waiving his hand up in the air for some attention....so your shit was fake...it happens, get a better source move on...but shit like "im gonna go get tatts and piercings cause thats what bitches like" or "for all i care i have a heart attack, i just want some pussy"...Bro...grow the fuck up....i understand that one of the reasons most get on grear is to look good...and thats all gravy...but it seems like you have no clue at all....what you need to do is relax...re-evalute your situation and go from there...dont be so impatient....oh and with that cycle you started...the first one you poorly planned....i hope you dont think you were going to look like an adonis off that...it takes some years too even get to the point where you want to be...one cycle is not going to do it.....
I HATE THIS THREAD TOO
24EggsADay
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Either your body doesnt like the test e....or you have been conned! I would change supplier and change supplier fast, also keep all vials ets you are using to id and send pix out of possible fake stuff. -- Quit?!!! Dude, rehab is for quitters!!!! You dont wanna go there!
used2juice
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Isn't this the guy who was throwing himself a pity party on the last thread he made, the one about wanting to kill himself because he was off cycle...
You are retarded, your workouts are half assed to put it nicely, and your attitude is the worst of it all. People on here should not be trying to diagnose your problem, because your problem is somewhere in your brain. See a therapist, stop using gear, and take care of your mind before you start using chemicals to enhance your body.
You are retarded, your workouts are half assed to put it nicely, and your attitude is the worst of it all. People on here should not be trying to diagnose your problem, because your problem is somewhere in your brain. See a therapist, stop using gear, and take care of your mind before you start using chemicals to enhance your body.
Payneisglory
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yeah you are crying like a girl. First of all you dont even start gaining till like week 3, so how did u gain 1-5 joke. If u did what u say u do you would probley gain 10-15 lbs by now. You shit is fake, stop whining about it girly boy.
jacked clown
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Well Im sorry if you cant grow dude then you cant grow maybe its time for the old noose....
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