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**8 Dead in Indian High School Shooting **

Razorguns

Razorguns

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Since they're indians, probably won't get as much press as the Colorado shooting -- but still how horrible.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/21/minnesota050321.html

8 dead, 14 injured in U.S. school shooting
Last Updated Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:44:23 EST
CBC News
RED LAKE, MINN. - At least 22 people have been killed or injured after a shooting spree in northern Minnesota.

At least six were shot and killed at Red Lake High School on Monday afternoon. Two others, a man and a woman, were found dead inside a home in the community.



At least 14 others were injured. Police say two of those wounded are in critical condition.

FBI spokesman Paul McCabe said four students were among the dead. A teacher and a security guard were also killed.

All of the students died in the same room. The gunman is believed to be one of the dead students.

The high school has about 300 students. It is on the Red Lake Indian Reservation about 400 kilometres north of Minneapolis.

Monday's incident is the worst school shooting in the United States since two teens went on a killing rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 students and a teacher and wounding 23 before killing themselves, on April 20, 1999.
 
fuck thats terrible. why?
 
Yeah, it barely got a mention on the World News tonite....

Very sad....
 
EnderJE said:
Does the reason matter? Maybe the person didn't like Tuesdays.
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Yes, the reason matters. Yes, I put 100% of the responsibility square on the shoulders of the murderer. But understanding the motivation can lead to recognition, prevention, change...
 
jenscats5 said:
Yeah, it barely got a mention on the World News tonite....

Very sad....
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high school shootings are old news man. america started that fad. move on to better things, like planes crashing into buildings and pop stars molesting childeren. GOSH!!....idiot!!! (ND voice)
 
I guess dude's dad was a cop and the kid walked into school with his dads police belt with 2 sidearms holstered and a shotgun. Killed his grandparents before going to school and killing six more including himself, a teacher and a security guard. Fucked up shit. I guess we had one 2 years ago here too that I don't even remember. These things are too common these days.
 
This isn't ununsual on indian reservations to see violence, though not of this magnitude.

Anyone who's grown up there, knows quite well the 3x the national average of suicides, murders, drug use, alcohol abuse, poverty, and incarceration rate.

Also the #1 reason indian rez populations keep decreasing. They keep dying early.

I wonder if Micheal Moore will make a movie about this now.
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Oh yeah, he's made his money off school shootings, so it's not in "vogue" anymore for him.
 
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Razorguns said:
This isn't ununsual on indian reservations.

Anyone who's grown up there, knows quite well the 3x the national average of suicides, murders, drug use, alcohol abuse, poverty, and incarceration rate.

Also the #1 reason indian rez populations keep decreasing. They keep dying early.

I wonder if Micheal Moore will make a movie about this now.
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Oh yeah, he's made his money off school shootings, so it's not in "vogue" anymore for him.
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I spend time on one every year.
I won't say the school shooting 'isn't unsual', the rest of that post is usual, and it's sad.
 
Does this sort of phenomena occur anyplace else in the world?... or is this something that is indicative of our American culture today?
 
They kept interupting in breaking news about it last night (I'm in MN). It's sad when something like that seems less shocking and more routine.

Last night they said 10 were dead at the school with others wounded. And the kid shot his grandparents before he went to school. :(
 
Beached Whale said:
Does this sort of phenomena occur anyplace else in the world?... or is this something that is indicative of our American culture today?
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2 years ago it happened also here. It was a huge thing, since it is not common. In 5 years is the only case I have seen-
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
the rest of that post is usual, and it's sad.
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Yeah. And people wonder why i get ticked at the media and the government caring *more* about the "plights" of illegals then about it's own people living in 3rd world conditions:

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151097,00.html

Red Lake Reservation Rife With Poverty
Monday, March 21, 2005

RED LAKE, Minn. — The Indian reservation where 10 people died in a shooting spree Monday is located in a remote area of northern Minnesota, and is home to one of the poorest tribes in the state.

About 5,000 people live on the Red Lake Indian Reservation (search), almost all of them American Indians. The Red Lake Chippewa Tribe (search) itself has about 9,400 enrolled members.

The reservation is about 240 miles northwest of the Twin Cities (search), and the town of Red Lake is about 75 miles south of the Canadian border.

Nearly 39 percent of the families on the reservation live below the poverty line. Because the reservation is so remote, the tribe has largely missed out on the lucrative casino revenues that some other Minnesota tribes enjoy. The profits from its Seven Clans Casinos (search) in Red Lake, and off the main reservation in Warroad and Thief River Falls, pale compared with those earned by tribes closer to the Twin Cities.

That is why tribal leaders decided to join with two other tribal bands in Gov. Tim Pawlenty's (search) proposal for a joint state-tribal casino in the Twin Cities area, a proposal that is pending before the Legislature.

The tribe and the federal government have primary law enforcement authority on the reservation, and serious crimes that happen here are prosecuted in federal court instead of state court. The tribe can jail someone for only up to a year.

The reservation reduced its poverty rate during the 1990s, but more than four in 10 residents remained unemployed, according to census figures.

Outsiders are sometimes unwelcome on the reservation. Tribal police ordered reporters off the reservation after Monday's shootings, and nonmembers are not allowed to fish on any part of Lower Red Lake, or on most of Upper Red Lake. The two lakes make up a good chunk of the reservation.

In the winter of 2002, tribal conservation officers confiscated the plane of a pilot who landed on the frozen lower lake hoping to sample the phenomenal crappie fishing. It took him more than six weeks of negotiations, $4,000 in fines and another $2,000 in legal fees to get his plane back.

Most of the shootings happened at Red Lake High School, which has an enrollment of over 300 students, according to the school's Web site.

The school scored second-lowest out of all Minnesota schools last year on tests for 11th-grade math and third-lowest for 10th-grade reading, according to the state Department of Education.

And the department's report card on the school for last year said it failed to meet federal standards for reading or math. Four in five students were poor enough to be eligible for free and reduced-price lunches and other benefits, it said.
 
100 miles away from my hometown of Climax, MN

We used to play Red Lake in football and had to have police escorts to and from games and when we kicked their asses they used to put dead squirrels and dogs in our bus.
Then again we only had 10 guys for a 9 man football team so that was kinda scary at 15 yrs old but never thought one of them would derail like that :(
 
They should tell kids if they feel like going on a suicidal killing rampage that the govt will wine and dine them for a couple weeks and then drop them in caves around Osama Bin Laden or on the ACLU headquarters and tell them to kill as many as they want and they will die as heros instead of whacos.
 
Every school shooter you have ever heard of (harris, klebold, kinkel, etc) were taking anti-depressants when they shot uptheir school, specifically SSRIs.

The link between SSRIs and this type of outburst is well-understood. I guess time will tell if this shooter was also on "anti-depressants".

Maybe at some point parents will stop giving these to their kids.
 
BEMIDJI, Minn. (Reuters) - A 17-year-old who killed nine people and himself on a Minnesota Indian reservation identified himself as an "angel of death" and a "NativeNazi" on Internet postings, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.

Officials sealed off the remote town of Red Lake, 60 miles south of the Canadian border, while they investigated Monday's bloodbath, the worst U.S. school shooting since the 1999 Columbine massacre.

Floyd Jourdain Jr., chairman of the Red Lake Indian council, called the tragedy "the darkest day in the history of our tribe."

The shooter was Red Lake High School sophomore Jeff Weise, according to witnesses and school officials.

Weise identified himself in Internet site postings as "Todesengel," German for "angel of death" and "NativeNazi," the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported.

He also claimed to have been questioned by police in 2004 about an alleged plot to shoot up the school on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler's birthday, but said he had nothing to do with that, the report said.

"I guess I've always carried a natural admiration for Hitler and his ideals, and his courage to take on larger nations," the newspaper quoted Weise as saying in one forum used by neo-Nazis.
 
Dopnt worry.. Im sure the media will find "some" way to blame it on whitey and racism.. then blow it out of proportion.

Give em time folks.. give em time.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Dopnt worry.. Im sure the media will find "some" way to blame it on whitey and racism.. then blow it out of proportion.
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Nah. Since they're not middle-class white kids, just a bunch of indians -- it's already been forgotten by the media. It's already down in the links on most news websites and will be yesterday's news by the weekend. The Shievo case is what's hot these days for the media. :)
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