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7 Simples Rules. Keep Them, And You Can't Go Wrong.

Nelson Montana

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Sometimes the simple answer is the best answer. And even though it's a lot of fun discussing this and that, it upsets me to hear the same horror stories over and over. There's no excuse for it. This ain't quantum physics. It takes a little study and a little understanding and considering that there is potential for danger, it takea a little caution. I hate to be cold hearted but when I read about some idiot messing himself up, it's hard to have sympathy. Nobody forced this upon you. The warning signs are there. You fucked up, you deal with it.

Nevertheless, some issues are hotly debated. Some of these suggestions may not go over well with a few members. If something works and they like it, nobody wants to be told otherwise. But I'll put this out there as a "fool proof" way to avoid 99% of the disasters encountered through the use of steroids.

Rule #1: Don't look for bargains.

I can't belive my eyes when guys will pass up pharma grade to get something cheaper, or use vet gear because they didn't want to spend an extra 50 bucks. This ain't toilet paper we're buying here folks. These are powerful chemicals going into your body. Test flu? That means dirty test. Know that. EQ is cheaper than Primmo? Yeah, it also causes anxiety and night sweats. What's up with that? Go first rate or don't go at all.

Rule#2: Don't use Trenbolone.

Okay, now I've estranged half the members on the board. Who doesn't love the results of tren? But remember, the stuff was not meant for human consumption and the side effects tell you something is very wrong. There is an appitite stimulant included that is meant for cattle which seems to have an effect on the reperatory system. Duh...HELLO. It's 3 times more androgenic and supressive than testosterone and it DECREASES libido? What the fuck folks. Just take 3 times as much testosterone if that's what you want. Something is very weird about this shit and for that reason I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Rule # 3: Don't exceed 50 mgs of orals.

That means total. And let me tell you, 50 mgs is pushing it. This is a carry over from the "Fonz days" on this and other boards. 50 mgs is A LOT. Where are all those morons that recommended these dosages?

Rule #4: Saturate your system with as much nutritional insurance as possible.

Steroids can't make muscle out of nothing. Using big cycles and being undernourished is like buying a Ferrarie and filling the gas tank with piss. Of course food comes first but as far as supps, absolutely essentials are additional protein, a good multi and a good hormone elevator. Of course, when it comes to this I recommend BIG BLAST, DX7, and UNLEASHED. What can I say? They're the best. If I thought something was better, THAT is what they'd be. Nope. These are the one others try to copy, but so far, no luck. I'm pretty proud of that.

Rule#5: Have your PCT ready!

How many more times are we going to hear from people who say "I'm in week 9, where can I get some Nolvadex?" Aarrrgh! Have what you need right from the start. And two things you should always have is HCG and adexx. You don't need a lot, but you should always have it good to go. Not on the way. In the cabinet!

Rule # 6: Deca is dead.

Why does anyone use this shitty drug anymore? People shout "It gets you big!" Fuck, if I ate 400 calories and a bag of salt every day I'd get big too. But at least I'd still have a dick. When people say "Oh, just use some test with it and you avoid libido problems" what they apparently don't realize is that the test may be a temporary cure but it also supresses. Now you're using two drugs to get the result you can get from one without the problems in the first place. A horrible, horrible drug. I'm sorry I ever used it. And by the way, the myth that it "heals joints?" Bullshit. It just causes water retention which soothes joints a little.


Rule # 7: Keep your gains.

This is the biggest mistake at all. At some point you have to make the transition back to "normal." If you think all you need is some Clomid and everything will be fine, you're in for a rude awakening. Everyone is different. Wean yourself off the drugs and start using other forms of "help." One is Proviron, which is the only legitimate "bridge" drug. But even that has to go at some point so then you must use something that does the same thing naturally. (That would be UNLEASHED). Using any of the products on the site can help. Sure, it can get pricey but this is the best stuff you can get and if it were sold in GNC it'd cost 4 times as much.

Here's a "Gold standard" PC supp routine.

Besides HC G and Dexx, which are a given...

UNLEASHED to lower SHBg and increase free T .

Dermacrine to restore hormonal balance.

POST-CYCLE to clean liver and prevent erectile dysfunction.

VIGOR to replace lower blood volume and restore strength.

Amp02 and ZIP for preworkout focus and inhibition of fat cells.

MyogenX to increase natural LH

DEFINITION to shed the excess water and bring out the separation between the muscles. Time to show them off!


:)


Now half of these products aren't mine, but they're good and that's why I recommened them. I'm sure other legit competitors would recomend mine for the same reason. Sure, we all want to pull in a little profit but we want to do it by making something really great. We're here every day and MUST satnd behind what we sell and what we say.

As for everything else, feel free to throw in your own "rule." But as it stands, these simple 7 would save a lot of time and heartache. Some may be controversial, but hey, that's what it's all about.
 
good post. How much HGH would you reccomend for PostCT? how much Adex?
 
errn247 said:
good post. How much human growth hormone - somatropin - would you reccomend for PostCT? how much Arimidex - anastrozole - ?

I don't think GH is essential for PC so if you decide to use it, the standard effective dosing would be the way to go. As for the adexx, it depends on the cycle. I think it's better to avoid heavily aromatizing drugs in big doses. maybe that should be another rule. Don't use excessive dosages. If you can't grow on a gram, you suck. Period.
 
Rule#2: Don't use Trenbolone.

Was originally developed for human consumption and taken of the market,

The most anabolic gear available, the sides are both manageable and you develop a quick tolerance

Know of nothing else than can produce the well-maintainable and quality gains with out increase in fat and water retention. Or estrogen formation, since these gains preclude water gains like test, you keep much more of what you put on.
 
solidspine said:
Rule#2: Don't use Trenbolone.

Was originally developed for human consumption and taken of the market,

The most anabolic gear available, the sides are both manageable and you develop a quick tolerance

Know of nothing else than can produce the well-maintainable and quality gains with out increase in fat and water retention. Or estrogen formation, since these gains preclude water gains like test, you keep much more of what you put on.
more comments on #2 plz.id like to hear more from both sides
 
solidspine said:
Rule#2: Don't use Trenbolone.

Was originally developed for human consumption and taken of the market,

The most anabolic gear available, the sides are both manageable and you develop a quick tolerance

Know of nothing else than can produce the well-maintainable and quality gains with out increase in fat and water retention. Or estrogen formation, since these gains preclude water gains like test, you keep much more of what you put on.


I welcome posts like these. There's obviously a reason it' so popular. It's just different sides of the fence. What matters more? The effectiveness? Or the sides? They may be managable, but the fact that they're htere at all is a concern . To me. Again, different approaches. I'm more for playing it safe. There are plenty of drugs that'll give great results. It's not like you life depends on using something a little more effective and worth the risks. JMO.
 
Another no brainer rule would be if you are preparing for your first cycle dont be a knucklehead and try workin with 2-4 compounds like i see some ppl doing...then this is what gets me..ready? they jump on here and title a thread called "insert side affect here-HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! and expect us to be able to randomly pick a fuckin compound out that they are taking and be like ok bro thats what is causing the side affect take it out and ur good to go. ppl need to start realizing like i did that these compounds aint no joke this is serious shit. so take it seriously and stop being a wreckless user.
 
lol everyone should just run 250mg test a week for a first cycle. If you're honestly doing everything right you should grow like a weed off it.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Rule # 6: Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is dead.

Why does anyone use this shitty drug anymore? People shout "It gets you big!" Fuck, if I ate 400 calories and a bag of salt every day I'd get big too. But at least I'd still have a dick. When people say "Oh, just use some test with it and you avoid libido problems" what they apparently don't realize is that the test may be a temporary cure but it also supresses. Now you're using two drugs to get the result you can get from one without the problems in the first place. A horrible, horrible drug. I'm sorry I ever used it. And by the way, the myth that it "heals joints?" Bullshit. It just causes water retention which soothes joints a little.


http://www.anthony-roberts.com/deca_winstrol_joints.html

...hmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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