paul allen
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A longish read but think its quite informative. Not enough threads of peoples cycle experience IMO.
Previous history:
I had done 2 previous cycles:
1st – deca 200mg EW, dbol 25mg ED – 8 Weeks
2nd – Sus 250mg E4D, EQ 200mg EW (15mg dbol kick 2 weeks) – 10 Weeks
2nd cycle was complete waste as gained nothing as cut doses, dramtically as saw some signs of gyno and panicked (I have since learnt from this). So its really more like I’ve done 1 cycle.
I decided to give a 3 weeker a go as I liked the idea of instant HPTA bounce back, as the deca cycle really shut me down. Lots of hype around them too late last year.
Cycle:
Sus 250mg days 1 and 2
Test prop 100mg EOD
Dbol 40mg ED
Adex 0.5mg EOD
Nol 10mg ED
Bit scary for me doing 900mg test in first week, but figured should get levels up as quick as possible.
I started cycle at 182lbs, 10%bf. Into second week, and I was feeling awesome in gym, extremely strong, and I looked ripped. First time using adex and it really helped keep water away and I think I lost a little estro fat. Get this...., on that much dbol and test, and lump under nipple actually went down slightly. I love adex.
Strength went up dramatically. 40lbs squat, 20lbs bench, 20lbs military, 30lbs deadlift.
I finished cycle at 194lbs, and looking a lot leaner, bottom abs showing through!
Its now 5 weeks since finishing cycle and I’m holding steady at 189lbs. Dropped to that 2 weeks after cycle. I’ve also held onto a lot of the strength gains, all of it in the squat and dead.
All the remarks about fast HPTA recovery were true. I didn’t even feel a transition between end of exo test and natural test. It was great.
PCT was –
Clomid week 1, 50mg, week 2, 25mg
Avena sativa,
Maca,
Lots zinc
So all in all, I class the cycle a good success, gains wise……… but was it worth it?
Read on!!
Due to only on for 3 weeks I upped dosages, to nearly twice of my previous highest. And even though it was 3 weeks, had some of the worst sides ever.
Acne – No, that was great, completely in check, actually cleared up a few scars. Again attributing it to the adex.
BP – This was scary! My face was going very red whenever doing weights, I was so imbarresed. One guy in gym actually commented ‘ how do I have any blood left in body to complete that set’. Didn’t get it measured, but it must have been very high. My face has only just returned to normal when in the gym.
Shedding- Jesus!! I definitely don’t have MPB, but shedding was crazy, even with nizoral, I couldn’t stop it. Its only just started to stop.
This was really scary for me, never thought I ‘d have to be concerned about hair!
So, that’s some info on 3 weekers. I won’t do another one! 7lbs muscle for those sides is bordeline of gains/sides ratio for me.
I’m gonna go safe but expensive route from now on – var/test/primo
Stats: 23, 5’10”, 189lbs, 9-10%bf
Hope this helps some people!
Previous history:
I had done 2 previous cycles:
1st – deca 200mg EW, dbol 25mg ED – 8 Weeks
2nd – Sus 250mg E4D, EQ 200mg EW (15mg dbol kick 2 weeks) – 10 Weeks
2nd cycle was complete waste as gained nothing as cut doses, dramtically as saw some signs of gyno and panicked (I have since learnt from this). So its really more like I’ve done 1 cycle.
I decided to give a 3 weeker a go as I liked the idea of instant HPTA bounce back, as the deca cycle really shut me down. Lots of hype around them too late last year.
Cycle:
Sus 250mg days 1 and 2
Test prop 100mg EOD
Dbol 40mg ED
Adex 0.5mg EOD
Nol 10mg ED
Bit scary for me doing 900mg test in first week, but figured should get levels up as quick as possible.
I started cycle at 182lbs, 10%bf. Into second week, and I was feeling awesome in gym, extremely strong, and I looked ripped. First time using adex and it really helped keep water away and I think I lost a little estro fat. Get this...., on that much dbol and test, and lump under nipple actually went down slightly. I love adex.
Strength went up dramatically. 40lbs squat, 20lbs bench, 20lbs military, 30lbs deadlift.
I finished cycle at 194lbs, and looking a lot leaner, bottom abs showing through!
Its now 5 weeks since finishing cycle and I’m holding steady at 189lbs. Dropped to that 2 weeks after cycle. I’ve also held onto a lot of the strength gains, all of it in the squat and dead.
All the remarks about fast HPTA recovery were true. I didn’t even feel a transition between end of exo test and natural test. It was great.
PCT was –
Clomid week 1, 50mg, week 2, 25mg
Avena sativa,
Maca,
Lots zinc
So all in all, I class the cycle a good success, gains wise……… but was it worth it?
Read on!!
Due to only on for 3 weeks I upped dosages, to nearly twice of my previous highest. And even though it was 3 weeks, had some of the worst sides ever.
Acne – No, that was great, completely in check, actually cleared up a few scars. Again attributing it to the adex.
BP – This was scary! My face was going very red whenever doing weights, I was so imbarresed. One guy in gym actually commented ‘ how do I have any blood left in body to complete that set’. Didn’t get it measured, but it must have been very high. My face has only just returned to normal when in the gym.
Shedding- Jesus!! I definitely don’t have MPB, but shedding was crazy, even with nizoral, I couldn’t stop it. Its only just started to stop.
This was really scary for me, never thought I ‘d have to be concerned about hair!
So, that’s some info on 3 weekers. I won’t do another one! 7lbs muscle for those sides is bordeline of gains/sides ratio for me.
I’m gonna go safe but expensive route from now on – var/test/primo
Stats: 23, 5’10”, 189lbs, 9-10%bf
Hope this helps some people!