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3 week cycle results, and word of warning!

paul allen

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A longish read but think its quite informative. Not enough threads of peoples cycle experience IMO.

Previous history:
I had done 2 previous cycles:
1st – deca 200mg EW, dbol 25mg ED – 8 Weeks
2nd – Sus 250mg E4D, EQ 200mg EW (15mg dbol kick 2 weeks) – 10 Weeks

2nd cycle was complete waste as gained nothing as cut doses, dramtically as saw some signs of gyno and panicked (I have since learnt from this). So its really more like I’ve done 1 cycle.

I decided to give a 3 weeker a go as I liked the idea of instant HPTA bounce back, as the deca cycle really shut me down. Lots of hype around them too late last year.

Cycle:
Sus 250mg days 1 and 2
Test prop 100mg EOD
Dbol 40mg ED
Adex 0.5mg EOD
Nol 10mg ED

Bit scary for me doing 900mg test in first week, but figured should get levels up as quick as possible.

I started cycle at 182lbs, 10%bf. Into second week, and I was feeling awesome in gym, extremely strong, and I looked ripped. First time using adex and it really helped keep water away and I think I lost a little estro fat. Get this...., on that much dbol and test, and lump under nipple actually went down slightly. I love adex.

Strength went up dramatically. 40lbs squat, 20lbs bench, 20lbs military, 30lbs deadlift.

I finished cycle at 194lbs, and looking a lot leaner, bottom abs showing through!

Its now 5 weeks since finishing cycle and I’m holding steady at 189lbs. Dropped to that 2 weeks after cycle. I’ve also held onto a lot of the strength gains, all of it in the squat and dead.

All the remarks about fast HPTA recovery were true. I didn’t even feel a transition between end of exo test and natural test. It was great.
PCT was –
Clomid week 1, 50mg, week 2, 25mg
Avena sativa,
Maca,
Lots zinc

So all in all, I class the cycle a good success, gains wise……… but was it worth it?

Read on!!

Due to only on for 3 weeks I upped dosages, to nearly twice of my previous highest. And even though it was 3 weeks, had some of the worst sides ever.

Acne – No, that was great, completely in check, actually cleared up a few scars. Again attributing it to the adex.

BP – This was scary! My face was going very red whenever doing weights, I was so imbarresed. One guy in gym actually commented ‘ how do I have any blood left in body to complete that set’. Didn’t get it measured, but it must have been very high. My face has only just returned to normal when in the gym.

Shedding- Jesus!! I definitely don’t have MPB, but shedding was crazy, even with nizoral, I couldn’t stop it. Its only just started to stop.

This was really scary for me, never thought I ‘d have to be concerned about hair!

So, that’s some info on 3 weekers. I won’t do another one! 7lbs muscle for those sides is bordeline of gains/sides ratio for me.

I’m gonna go safe but expensive route from now on – var/test/primo

Stats: 23, 5’10”, 189lbs, 9-10%bf

Hope this helps some people!
 
good to know.....do you think you could have achieved similar results on less gear? perhaps would have cut down on the sides?

and perhaps finasteride for avoiding the shedding.....
 
Aside from the hair issues and slight blood pressure issue, I'd say your 3 weeker was a definite success. My last cycle involved test & eq for 3 months and my peak was 18lbs....6 months later I am still holding on to 8 pounds. So assuming you keep your lean 7 lbs, thats awesome considering all the bullshit I went through to achieve mine, I'd way rather done a 3-weeker and not have to deal with the shutdowns and stress.
 
Nice post..

i really like how you commented on the sides and said its not worth it..

i mean in 8 weeks you put on 7lbs of muscle.. not bad but with the sides and risks..

i also like your comment on staying safer.. i dont think enough "normal" / non competing BB's use ONLY safe compounds and i really dont see the need for most people to use anything else.. by safe i mean:

TEST
deca (although i dont like the shutdown)
Eq
primo (Faked a lot though becareful)
dbol (low dose only)
VAR (very very safe)

maybe a few more but thats what i like using i want to be in this game for a while and when im on the nice safe compounds all my blood levels stay reasonable while on cycle and quickly rebound to a very healthy level when off..

Good Luck, Stay Safe..

Karma your way Bro,
 
Thanks for replys guys!

Hi Jkurz - My routine was needsize's 5*5, with 4 months previous natural 5*5. My chest and legs were lacking so resorted to doing them twice per week (only 1 5*5 workout though). Diet was 230g protein ED, don't count calories.

Jerkbox - I don't know about similar gains on less gear. I was so worried it would be a failure, I just took alot of juice. For example, If I'd only gained 4-5lbs with less gear, I would have considered it a waste. As to finaesteride - was my shedding due to dht?, as I thought dht only effected mpb people, which I am definitly not.

Mr Black - 3 months, with a peak 18lbs, net 8lbs, thats scary. Guess you've done alot of cycles before that so its not too bad.
The red face was more embarressing than a health concern, I felt so ashamed!!
 
No actually it was my 3rd cycle. Had some bunk test cyp in the beginning and didn't find out till week 6-7, then picked up some legit test prop and ran it for 6 weeks ang gained 12lbs + 6 lbs I gained off the eq previously in the cycle.
 
Here's some more info:
Blood test results, 4 weeks after cycle.

I'll add testosterone results later as they're not back yet.

Lipids

Cholesterol:HDL ratio - 4.04 (<5)
Triglycerides - 65 (40-160)
LDL - 99 (<100)
HDL - 37 (>40)
Total cholesterol - 150 (<200)

Liver

alkaline phosphatase - 105 (40-125)
GGT - 23 (7-64)
ALT/SGPT 31 (7-56)
Albumin - 43 (35-50)
Total protein - 74 (60-80)
bilirubin - 8 (3-20)

Kidney

creatinine - 107 (45-120)
urea - 7.9 (1.7-8.3)
potassium - 4.9 (3.5-5.0)
sodium - 139 (135-145)

I was very happy with liver values, as dbol gave it a bit of a grilling, and I was also drinking a little on a sat night.

My Dr. actually said that oral steroids don't cause much harm to liver - he remarked you can hit the liver with a bottle of whiskey a day for 30 years and it'll satnd up to it.

HDL is slightly low but since total chol is low, ratio is fine.
 
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