2nd PCT after 6 month cycle and one failed pct. *LOG*

[bobster2k]

Heeding the advice of many members on this forum I am deciding to go for another shot at pct before committing to HRT at age 25. I will follow doctor Scally's power pct program which is as follows.

HCG 2500 IU EOD days 1-16.
Clomid 100mg ED days 1-30,
Nolva 40mg days 1-30 and 20mg days 31-45

Purchasing from a different supplier this time.

DAA, Vitamin E and Zinc throughout.

Maybe low dose Proviron?

Will get blood work after HCG and after PCT. My previous failed pct was similar but I ran the HCG at 1500IU and did it before I started the serms. Even though I think HCG is suppressive, I'm going to follow docs protocol and run HCG alongside the serms and hope for this best. My current test is 128 LH .4, FSH .7 and estradiol is less than 6. Pray for me Open to any criticism or advice.

 

[dylangemelli]

Heeding the advice of many members on this forum I am deciding to go for another shot at pct before committing to HRT at age 25. I will follow doctor Scally's power pct program which is as follows.

HCG 2500 IU EOD days 1-16.
Clomid 100mg ED days 1-30,
Nolva 40mg days 1-30 and 20mg days 31-45

Purchasing from a different supplier this time.

DAA, Vitamin E and Zinc throughout.

Maybe low dose Proviron?

Will get blood work after HCG and after PCT. My previous failed pct was similar but I ran the HCG at 1500IU and did it before I started the serms. Even though I think HCG is suppressive, I'm going to follow docs protocol and run HCG alongside the serms and hope for this best. My current test is 128 LH .4, FSH .7 and estradiol is less than 6. Pray for me Open to any criticism or advice.

your pct failed because of the hcg... your going to bottom out your lh and fsh by running hcg as you have proposed and your going to be very sorry... i would definitely not do this man... its a horrible move... you can blast it for a few weeks but anything beyond that is going to only make things worse than they already are... don't be one that has to learn the hard way... this is not a good pct whatsoever...

read this article... The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org

i can help you structure a variant of this that's conducive to your problems...

 

[RickRock13]

HCG is to be taken BEFORE PCT, and not during. Otherwise it is counterproductive to recovery. I would also suggest adding in Test Stack or HCGenerate ES to PCT. It will help tremendously over SERMS alone

http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

 

[bobster2k]

your pct failed because of the hcg... your going to bottom out your lh and fsh by running hcg as you have proposed and your going to be very sorry... i would definitely not do this man... its a horrible move... you can blast it for a few weeks but anything beyond that is going to only make things worse than they already are... don't be one that has to learn the hard way... this is not a good pct whatsoever...

read this article...

i can help you structure a variant of this that's conducive to your problems...

The HCG blast is only 16 days, you feel that is too long?

 

[dylangemelli]

The HCG blast is only 16 days, you feel that is too long?

2 weeks is plenty... anything more than that is going to be counterproductive... i misread, i though it was longer than that but stick with 2 weeks at the most... nolva and clomid alone are not going to do the trick... aromasin will increase igf levels, etc... did you read the article i sent?

 

[TheKid7]

2500 IU EOD is crazy man, I personally do 500/week or 250 EoD for 2 weeks going into PCT, you would be doing more in one shot than that combined! That's also a ton of clomid maybe 60/40/40/20 if anything but I'd also read dylan's article to educate yourself a little more. Also as mentioned aromasin is great is PCT I'm doing 6.5mg EoD keeping estro in check, increasing free test, igf-1 levels

 

[bobster2k]

2500 IU EOD is crazy man, I personally do 500/week or 250 EoD for 2 weeks going into PCT, you would be doing more in one shot than that combined! That's also a ton of clomid maybe 60/40/40/20 if anything but I'd also read dylan's article to educate yourself a little more. Also as mentioned aromasin is great is PCT I'm doing 6.5mg EoD keeping estro in check, increasing free test, igf-1 levels

The doc changed his protocol to 2000 iu eod for 21 days. From what he says that is not enough to desensitize the leydig cells.

 

[Feloniouz]

Heeding the advice of many members on this forum I am deciding to go for another shot at pct before committing to HRT at age 25. I will follow doctor Scally's power pct program which is as follows.

HCG 2500 IU EOD days 1-16.
Clomid 100mg ED days 1-30,
Nolva 40mg days 1-30 and 20mg days 31-45

Purchasing from a different supplier this time.

DAA, Vitamin E and Zinc throughout.

Maybe low dose Proviron?

Will get blood work after HCG and after PCT. My previous failed pct was similar but I ran the HCG at 1500IU and did it before I started the serms. Even though I think HCG is suppressive, I'm going to follow docs protocol and run HCG alongside the serms and hope for this best. My current test is 128 LH .4, FSH .7 and estradiol is less than 6. Pray for me Open to any criticism or advice.

I was going to give this a try. This guy seems likes he knows what the fuck he's talkin about. Real funny dude too. Check it out bro.

http://youtu.be/NkZcuPIIvjM



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[Feloniouz]

Pct seems to be the achilles' heel. To all steroid cycles. I mean I have yet to get it right, but if what Rich Piana is saying is official. He's going to change my life.


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[TheSurgeon81]

^^interesting video....so much conflicting info out there.


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[stevesmi]

rich Piana hasn't PCT'd since Eisenhower was president. to take pct advice from his is laughable.

hcg as Dylan illustrated above will SUPPRESS your HPTA.. if you don't believe me do your own test.. get blood work now and then during hcg and you will notice 4 things occur .. your LH and FSH drop, and your T levels and E go up. why? because hcg mimics LH in the body bypassing your pituitary glands, not good when you are trying to ENCOURAGE your pituitary glands to function right? of course Piana doesn't care the guy just stays on year round so what difference does it make

do you want to recover or do you keep wanting to play around with your hormones ? that's a decision you need to decide right now. here is the best pct of 2014 put together by yours truly and its 110% guaranteed to work or your money back. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html

 

[RickRock13]

Piana knows about as much about PCT as ballet dancing

 

[Saluki]

That video is hilarious. But dangerous for anyone without a basic understanding of the substances they are injecting. Which, apparently includes Meathead himself.