2nd cycle help- Estrogen Gyno

[Mia305]

Good Morning to you all fellow fitness fanatics,

I need some help with my current cycle, let me start by telling you some stats, my weight is 195 pounds, im 24 yrs old 12-14% BF, Been training for 7 years, and this is my second cycle. My first cycle was at 22 and it was Test with Winstrol for 12 weeks with proper HCG cycle, nothing else.
My current cycle this is my 8 week for the first 6 i did Test 300mg twice x week and wisntrol 50 mg twice x week. Week 7 and forward im Doing 1 CC of triple stack which is 300 mg (100mg Trenbolone,100mg masteron and 100mg test prop) twice x week along with 300 mg test enanthate and 50mg winstrol once x week. I have HCG ready and some arimidex on hand for estrogen. Im also taking 1mg finasteride EOD for hair loss prevention.

Those are my stats and cycle, now my question is, im starting to feel some soreness and sharp feelings in my nipples everyonce in a while not always, maybe like 2 or 3 times per week. I have 15 pills of arimidex 1mg on hand, should i start taking them already during my cycle, I know this will diminish my cycle gains, but again at the same time i dont wanna risk getting Gyno.

Any thoughts and recommendations would be very very welcomed.

thank you all fellas.

 

[ForeverSmall]

You should have started taking the adex from the beginning of the cycle. Why people wait just blows my mind.

Right now you have elevated estrogen levels, and you are running a 19-nor.. which has bad news written all over it. Start taking the adex now. You may also have to look into Nolva and Letro if the problem gets worse.

 

[Mia305]

Foreversmall thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

I didnt start to use adex since the beginning, because i've never been estrogen sensitive, and havent had a problems with gyno ever, nonetheless, thanks for the recommendation, i will def keep it in mind for next cycle.

On another note, what 19 nor am i taking that has bad news and why?

And also what dosage would you recommend i start taking the adex?

Thanks bud.

 

[ForeverSmall]

Tren is the 19-nor, which can cause a different kind of gyno that is not estrogen related. Elevated estrogen can make it much worse though, and can start to cause more problems. When running a 19-nor, like tren or deca. It is a good idea to run something like caber or prami for the progestin gyno.

The first thing you should do is get your bloods checked to see how your hormones levels are, especially E2. This will give you a much better idea of how to treat the situation. I would start taking the adex at .5mg ed, or 1mg eod. It would be a good idea to pick up more to.

 

[25homes]

How long you running winny for total

 

[smalljohn]

for a second cycle and with no ancillaries, you run a very high test dose along with trenbole at the same time. Winstrol helps you out abit, but you should lower those doses man!

100mg test p, tren, mast and 300mg test enanthate? Not twice a week? 600mg test e + 400mg test p a week?
Bro man get on the adex 0.5mg eod/e3d You have mast and winstrol to help you out with the water retention, sgbh and aromatase, but this is high dose of test and with tren you should get cabergoline for prolactin. Its a good pre cation, because that kind of gyno is nasty. Sitting home milking your chesticles just isnt a good thing.

A bloodwork now will give you valuable information for future references.
suddenly chugging down on arimidex is not a good thing, because it is known for causing estrogen rebounds to begin with smacking you hard on the balls when you thought yourself safe and sound. Get a bloodwork.

 

[Mia305]

Smalljohn thanks for the reply bud.

No im not running that much test, its test propionate wich comes in the triple ayack 100mg twice x week = 200mg. And Test E 150mg twice x week=300 that makes it 500 total which is not too high not too low in my opinion. I already started the arimidex today .5 eod too see if that works, i'll go higher or lower depedning on my body reaction.

Does this change your point of
View?

The blood work i have an appointment set up with the doctor for june 28 which is when i finish my number and pct, so that way i make sure everything is in place.
Thanks a lot for ur input.

 

[Mia305]

25homes,

I ran winny at 50mg 2 x week. For the first 6 weeks. I lowered the dosage to 25mg 2 x week from week 6 and forward because i started the triple stack and i didnt want to shoot that much.

 

[Raff]

Run the Adex at .5mg EOD. That should be the perfect balance between estrogen control while not inhibiting gains.

 

[Zyglamail]

I didnt start to use adex since the beginning, because i've never been estrogen sensitive, and havent had a problems with gyno ever, nonetheless, thanks for the recommendation, i will def keep it in mind for next cycle.

estrogen sensitivity would mean if you get high normal E levels you may start to get sides. Your taking more than 6x the amount of test most people have in their veins so likely have about 6x the amount of estrogen as well.

Its not about sensitivity but common sense. Also, this is your second cycle so you have no real experience to base your sensitivity on and along with that I assume no lab work.