1st Cycle

[Jonlb21]

1-8 test prop 100 mg eod or (was actually thinking of doing test e to avoid pinning so much) recommeded test e dose ?

1-8 anavar 60-100 mg day
1-8 n2guard
1-8 HCGenerate ES

PCT 9-12

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com ( hopefully tablets)
Phytoserms n2bm.com (dont know if I need this one)
HCGenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com ( Prefer tablets)
n2guard n2bm.com

and what about unleashed post cycle ?

OPTIONAL

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[crumly5]

kinda depends on your stats, how long youve been training, age, what u are trying to accomplish. I personally wouldnt recomend prop for your first time. u will wake up thinking someone shot u right where u did your shot with a potatoe gun. first timer would be fine with sust, cyp, or enanthate. sust is blended so u dont have to throw a dart at yourself eod. Do a few cycles before u take short life esters. Var is pretty clean but wont give u the results u would be expecting for a first timer. everyone expects more gains on there first. 100mgs eod is only 350mg test per week. go with 500 or u wont be happy. sust or omnadren is great for a first timer. ur ai's look fine if there even necessary. u made a pretty low dose first cycle.

need stats to better find people to help bro. another thing. u should read 200 threads starting with stickies before posting. all the neubs questions are usually answered here. without the stickies the same questions would be asked 20 times a day.

good luck and read read read

 

[Jonlb21]

I'm 26 been lifting, for 3 years. i'm 14% bf and am trying to cut. I have read other 1st cycle threads and they are all different so its hard to gauge the perfect one.

 

[Jonlb21]

I thought anavar would be a better 1st cycle stack then winstrol for cutting. Trying to avoid joint problems.

 

[crumly5]

i understand. stanzolol will harden u up good but if ur wanting to burn fat, clen works well but u really have to be careful on how to take it. if ur interested i can try to explain. it has to be piramidded constantly. up and down up and down. let me know if interested.

 

[Jonlb21]

I've tried clen in the past and it didn't burn that much fat for me. I took 40mg for the first 2 days then made my way to 100mg per day for two weeks. Then took 2 weeks off again and restarted it.

 

[crumly5]

when ur cutting u shouldnt be lifting heavy enough to need to worry about that unless its already an issue.

 

[crumly5]

u got about half that pyramid right. at least u didnt overdose it. that sucks

 

[Jonlb21]

I'm off the clen right now. I'm currently taking oxy elite pro ( old formula), l carnitine, CLA, and Final form to cut. Not including all my pre and post supplements to still gain muscle.

 

[Jonlb21]

what about an anavar only cycle ? I know most people will say anavar is a waste without test e as a foundation ?