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10 week FIRST Cycle - My progress In Pictures

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dballed

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Hi Guys,

this is my progress from start to finish of my Cycle, I have been slated on other forums of my choices to do this course but when you see the pictures and the state my body was in prior you will understand.

I know im gonna get shit for doing this cycle too early but really we all have our reasons, so before you start slating, ask yourself, why is your reasons more viable than mine?

The last pic was taken at 12 weeks although my course was only 10 weeks, currently on PCT as to previous reccomendations on the forum, which i might add has been a great source of knowledge for me.

I have researched until my eyes bled prior to doing this cycle (approx 1 and a half years research)

I am really happy with the results, task now is to try and keep as much of my gains as possible. I doubt i will do another course in the near future, I got exactly what I wanted and more so I think i will continue with the training and diet just as hard there shouldnt be a problem

My starting Weight was 145.5 LBS

My weight on the 12th Week pic is 180.7 LBS

LET THE FUN BEGIN.......................

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instant.muscle said:
super results! what was cycle?
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Week 1 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week.

Week 2 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week

Week 3 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 4 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 5 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 6 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 7 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 8 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 200mg Deca Once a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 9 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 40mg Anabol per day

Week 10 - 250mg Test Enanthate 2 times a week, 40mg Anabol per day
 
ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations
 
rg78 said:
ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations
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was waiting for the shit to start!

handfull of bicep curls is not gonna get these results in 10 weeks mate, dry your eyes!

post your before and after pics and show us how its really done!
 
instant.muscle said:
did the cycle increase ur chest hair? this is not sarcastic
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yes it did! did anyone else find this? i noticed having to cut my head hair twice as much also, i also noticed my finger nails growing quicker.
 
dballed said:
was waiting for the shit to start!

handfull of bicep curls is not gonna get these results in 10 weeks mate, dry your eyes!

post your before and after pics and show us how its really done!
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You posted pics, I told the truth get over it.
 
rg78 said:
ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations
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not a nice way to put it but re78 tells ls it like it is. i was thinking something similar...like why the hell you doing steroids already?

looks like you never really worked out and jumped into using AAS without learning how to eat properly or even lift to achieve some mass naturally. so what happens when you go off? back to your before pic.
 
glennds said:
not a nice way to put it but re78 tells ls it like it is. i was thinking something similar...like why the hell you doing steroids already?

looks like you never really worked out and jumped into using AAS without learning how to eat properly or even lift to achieve some mass naturally. so what happens when you go off? back to your before pic.
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yes it is true, i done AAS very early, as I mentioned in my first post.

Through the correct PCT and continuation of my diet and lifting I cant see reason why i wont maintain my gains, maybe not 100% but the majority, believe me I will never be that size again!

In fact there is no reason why I cant continue to grow naturally, the guys at my local gym are extremely helpful as to guiding me on my workout, diet and form (although they dont know i done AAS) , Im dedicated to what im doing and thoroughly enjoying it, the change in my lifestyle to support this all has really affected my life for the better, i feel healthier and stronger both mentally and physically.
 
Dude, a gram a week for those results? Not to diss your progress but you could have done that with the right training, more food and some good supps. No lie.

And you'll most likely lose half the gains.

I'm not saying it to be negitive or non supportive. I just feel that gear deserves some respect. It shouldn't be used for some vanity gratification. If you're really interested in building solid muscle, you've got a lot to learn.
 
looks good man at least u had the balls to post pics to get critiqued, good job, agree little early for gear, but what do i know
 
i've made better progress then that a year natty. I think i was putting on like 15-20lbs the first few months without aas.
 
You definetely had some good progress, and I wouldn't be surprised if you kept a lot of the gains (since it really only looks like you gained 5 lbs) but like everyone else said, you really could have gained more. If you decide to do another I would suggest really taking some advice from they tenured guys here on the forum, they know what their talking about.

Maybe even spend some time on the nutritional forum and learn how to stack on the mass with just food.
 
Dude...you look like you went from not a single day of training, to MAYBE a few months worth. Why did you hop on gear so quickly? You could've done the same thing just eating a little more and training properly.
 
dballed said:
If your idea of "the truth" is stupid comments that dont make sense then i concur - over it!
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Sorry bro, but those aren't stupid comments, everyone has the right to their own opinion. Hard work and patience would have done you wonders. Check out AGX's strength stack, stay natty for a year and then give AAS another run when you have a better base.


A side pic may do you more justice, but I don't see much diff.

I'm not bashing you either, just trying to help. Good luck and keep lifting!
 
how old are you..

the cycle you laid out looks liek something off of bodybuilding.com or some website..

did you research for a year and a half, then decide you wanted to start lifting so you added aas?
 
How tall are you bro? Maybe that will help clear up some of the confusion.

If you are 6'1 or 6'2 or so, then I can see how that was 35 lbs, and assuming you are at least 6'0, then I think the progress was substantial and solid..

And this comment I'm about to make may be somewhat controversial, but fuck it.. ;)
They prescribe AAS to AIDS patients to prevent muscle wasting, and to victims of accidents who are layed up in the hospital for months to help them gain back some of their weight... obviously the man was underweight, so I don't see anything wrong with him having taken gear (assuming he trained and ate).. sure there are drawbacks, and I do disagree with the amount he took (I think he should of been able to make those gains with just testosterone alone really).

But in this case, the man says he feels much better now that he has a base and if that is what was needed for him psychologically to attain the motiviation to devleop a new lifestyle, then I say it was well worth it; sure, I wish he could have attained that motivation without having to have done a cycle, but oh well, to each his own.

Assuming you are around 6'1 bro, then I say you made great progress, although I think you could have attained the same gains in at least 9 months with natural training (if you know how to eat and train that is) - so you got it in 1/3 the time and props to you. But now that you got your foundation, if you keep going then lets see what progress you can make naturally over the next 9 months and see if you can't go up another 20 pounds (which you absolutely should be able to do if you are dedicated enough and don't have a hyperthyroid). Use all this bashing from these guys as motivation to prove everyone of them wrong, and then come back on this forum and say, "remember me, now this is how much progress I've made naturally in 9 months.. oh, and btw, all you flamers can suck my left nut." But just keep with it bro.. natural at first is slow but sure.. you should be able to get up to 210 completely natural here on out within two years no probs if you train and diet consistently with dedication.
 
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glennds said:
not a nice way to put it but re78 tells ls it like it is. i was thinking something similar...like why the hell you doing steroids already?

looks like you never really worked out and jumped into using AAS without learning how to eat properly or even lift to achieve some mass naturally. so what happens when you go off? back to your before pic.
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My thoughts exactly. You need food, not gear brother.
 
Good start... now eat 6k calories a day drink a cytomass or truemass shake before you go to sleep with whole milk..do this while lifting heavy for 24 weeks and take progress pics too..
 
I think its pretty rude of all the guys flaming this poor chap - yeah thats right i said it, chap.
Seriously though, what gives any of you the right to flame him for taking AAS. Why are any of us on this forum? None of us have any special reason why we should take them. He hasn't mentioned his age so we don't know that he's actually physically too young like 17 or 18 or something.
If he's hit 20 then fair enough, it will have no more of a negative impact on his body then AAS have on our bodies.
As for all the "you could have gained more natty" blah blah blah... I say bullshit.
I had the same skeleton he had when i was 20. I had trained since the age of 14, tanned the protein shakes and mega mass 4000 from argos for years. Tried creatine, GABA, and Boron back when that was meant to be the "next big thing" and gained nothing other than a tiny bit of shape. I took Sus 250, 300mg of Deca and 25mg of Dbol for 8 weeks and gained around 25lbs or so. I've never looked back. I used gear on and off for about 7 years. I now way in at around 185-190lbs and have been off the gear for 2 years pretty much so i'm more than happy that I did it. The benefits phycologically for one where tremendous. Plus, the pussy...
Its easy (or perhaps easier) for guys with a less ectomorphic (is that right?) skeleton to gain weight than for some one like me or this guy. I literally couldn't have gained anything more than a couple of pounds off eating till i was sick and trainging my ass off for an entire year. Some people just simply do not have the genetics at all.
The guy who made the particularly insulting comment about going from being a junkie to a normal skinny guy is just ignorant. I'm sure there are loads of guys much much bigger than you too. How would you feel if your efforts where belittled in such a patronizing way just because your not as big as the next guy?
The point is, we all use steroids to get bigger for what ever reason, non of us have any real need to. I'd suggest that this guy probably had more reason than most given his before pics.
 
nice progress bro, bottom line is this, yes it was to early, and yes you looked like you never seen a weight before, but you still made progress. progress that could have been made natty BUT you still got it done. Half of these guys on here started the same way, then they put on 20lbs of h2o after a dbol cycle and tell you youre stupid for doing it. make you next one worth it, dont slow down, keep your momentum and the next one will be the real deal. Nice job tho, keep workin hard.

btw...i got nuttin but love for all yall.
 
what a waste is all I can say. I saw more results naturally in 3 months that you have your entire time on AAS. What was going on in your head? You had absolutely no base at all and should never have run anything. Good luck gaining naturally.
 
chilledandy said:
I think its pretty rude of all the guys flaming this poor chap - yeah thats right i said it, chap.
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you say flaming, we say setting this guy straight. a lot of us DID train naturally for years without using steroids the first two weeks we started weight training.
 
I also want to know how old you are and what your diet was like.

Ok, I usually don't flame. So I'm just gonna give my advice, all from personal experience:

I honestly think you could've gained that same amount, if not more, with just a change in diet. Especially at your age (presuming you're younger). Seriously. I've actually made some of the most gains in *between* cycles with a tuned-up diet and workout. Eat, eat, and eat some more!

Supplement whole food with protein shakes. More protein, more whole carbs, more good fats. You WILL grow. Food is the most anabolic substance. It's not too late... after this cycle is all wrapped up, just go and eat. Take creatine if you have to. Some glutamine, multi-vitamins. Find a good workout program - this can also make a big difference... heavier weights, less reps.

Take all this advice with a grain of salt, even from the people that don't sugar-coat it *grin* We all mean well. Good luck!
 
as long as the poster see results more power to him. but def up the protein intake 2xbodyweight each day and should grow with that along with clean diet of carbs/fats.

im stuck at 205 right now and thinking winter to get 15 more lbs on me.
 
I'll never blast a guy form posting pics and your results were decent. Definitely you should have waited to do the sauce though bro. It's not a matter of keeping the gains it's the fact that no cycle is like your first cycle. You should have gotten closer to your genetic limits before you started than blasted through them with the extra aid. You look like you go to the gym but most people would be shocked by the fact that you did a cycle - it's just not that evident in your overall size and shape.
 
i'm curious about your age and previous diet/training. the gains are obviously noticeable, even significant. i'm curious what led you to decide on aas at this point? were you around 30, for example, and felt impatient? do you think you tried working out natty for some time, and found that nothing worked?
 
jackangel said:
i'm curious about your age and previous diet/training. the gains are obviously noticeable, even significant. i'm curious what led you to decide on aas at this point? were you around 30, for example, and felt impatient? do you think you tried working out natty for some time, and found that nothing worked?
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Dude your not that big either maybe you need to lay off the roids too. Eat some food!
 
iceman7230 said:
Dude your not that big either maybe you need to lay off the roids too. Eat some food!
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that big? i'm a skinny-ass motherfucker. never juiced, don't know if i will. and i hate food, unless it's the good kind that makes me fat.

i should be picking up a sack of herb tonight, that might help me choke down some extra grilled chicken.
 
rg78 said:
ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations
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ROFLMAO hahahah and another dude is asking if it made his chest hair grow....i almost spit my shake out lol....

ya bro but on the real shave that chest and do you do shrugs? not to dis but your traps dont look any different....
 
rg78 said:
ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations
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You're a cock head, give the guy a break at least he's having a go and to put on 35 lbs of muscle is awesome...
 
jackangel said:
that big? i'm a skinny-ass motherfucker. never juiced, don't know if i will. and i hate food, unless it's the good kind that makes me fat.

i should be picking up a sack of herb tonight, that might help me choke down some extra grilled chicken.
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So....you don't do AAs, you probably never will, you hate food and you are hanging out on a steroid 101 bulletin board to ..."wonder why someone decided it was time to use AAs." I'm speechless. And on top of this, you are some pothead whose avatar looks like a terrorist. Did I miss something here?
:rolleyes:
 
milamdj said:
So....you don't do AAs, you probably never will, you hate food and you are hanging out on a steroid 101 bulletin board to ..."wonder why someone decided it was time to use AAs." I'm speechless. And on top of this, you are some pothead whose avatar looks like a terrorist. Did I miss something here?
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ROFL ya seriously....who the fuck doesnt like to eat? That avatar is his picture bro, he looks like one of those assholes that tried to attack FT DIX...on top of it he lives in NJ...I dont think allah allows ragheads to juice anyway.
 
Nice results but for those results I would have spent the money on more food, bills, and some new porno movies......nice results but not the results you would expect from that much gear.......and def. not a 35lbs gain. But if you are happy with it who cares.
 
Edwarda5 said:
You're a cock head, give the guy a break at least he's having a go and to put on 35 lbs of muscle is awesome...
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He put on 35lbs of muscle?????? Not possible in 10 weeks or even 20 weeks. Putting on 35 lbs is not putting on 35lbs of muscle.
 
milamdj said:
So....you don't do AAs, you probably never will, you hate food and you are hanging out on a steroid 101 bulletin board to ..."wonder why someone decided it was time to use AAs." I'm speechless. And on top of this, you are some pothead whose avatar looks like a terrorist. Did I miss something here?
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I am a psychologist and I would say he probably has a muscle fetish. :rainbow:
 
I'm going to be as optimistic as possible with my comments ...

When comparing your three pictures, I noticed a change in the biceps and the chest( also chest hair ) . But pretty much everything else stayed the same. The real problem lies in your diet and training routine. It doesn't appear as if every muscle is being worked. The stack you were taking is one of the best for putting on muscle mass , but this is a prime example that no stack no matter what, will produce miracles without knowledge and dedication to dieting and training.

Also, I can relate with you as I once was probably even skinner than you ( about 100 lbs) entering college and I was able to pack on 72 pounds and counting in 4 years naturally.(given i'm only 5'5 too) . You need to eat a crapload of food, like 4500+ even without steroids..sure you'll gain some fat but it will help in a good way with the weights and will pack on some more muscle .

I would not do another cycle until your diet and training routine is in order . Only then will you truly see the benefits that anabolics can aid to your frame

Good luck!
 
i liked u better at the beginning. u looked like a normal person. now you look weird and not in a good way.

stay away from aas. it's not for everyone. bulk up first. and work on creating a chest dammit. sorry you're an ectomorph. must be a bitch.
 
enacer420nj said:
ROFL ya seriously....who the fuck doesnt like to eat? That avatar is his picture bro, he looks like one of those assholes that tried to attack FT DIX...on top of it he lives in NJ...I dont think allah allows ragheads to juice anyway.
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LMAO!
 
When did someone try to attack FT DIX? I used to go there with my grandmother all the time when i was younger and still lived in NJ. I remember around 9-11 hearing all the cleaning people were illegals but noting about an attack.
 
Wake up elite!!!

Look in the pic again, looks like @ week 6 the AAS use turned him into a redhead then back to black hair @ week 12.

NOTICE THE TATTOO BLURRED @ WEEK 12 ON ARM??
I WISH I COULD CHANGE COLORS AND HAIR COLOR AND GROW TATOOS FROM MY CYCLES.

FAKE PICS!
 
Lots of interesting comments there, thanks for the input to all.

A little background into why and what I done.

I have been battling my weight for years, I could eat a horse and not gain a Kilo, i have been tested for many different things by my doctor, diabetes, epilepsy, hyperthyroid problems (and tons more).

The only thing they could come up with was that i had a high metabolism and that in time this would subside with age. They put me on Anti-histimines to boost my appetite.

I was the same weight from the age of 18 until 25 and couldnt stand it anymore! yes i tried naturally to gain weight, yes i upped my calorie intake, yes i tried a high protein natural diet, i basically tried everything i could

After speaking with a friend nearly 2 years ago he mentioned AAS and i started to research, I always found a reason to not do a cycle, fear of jabbing myself, fear of fucking myself up, fear of doing it wrong and actually never believed it would work at the start.

after about a year and a half of research I decide to bite the bullet and do ONE cycle and ONE cycle only, I wasnt in this to become the incredible hulk, just needed some results quickly to boost my interest in pursuing further. I really thought this would never work on me and the results i got amazed me. It may not look like much in the pics but believe me, when i meet people i havent seen in a while they are extremely shocked to see the change in my body and size, the comments i get are even better than the results, I am very tall so the weight i gained is not as noticeable as a smaller guy. my height is 6' 3" I am 25 years old, these are not fake pics, I genuinely put on 35lbs no bullshit.

I have no intention of doing another cycle, i have gained what feels like a new life through one cycle and happy for that, I will continue to hit the gym 4 times a week and keep my diet in tune to grow naturally and progress further, I will post further progress pics after 12 weeks of natural training and diet, could be an interesting read.

all in all happy to get the feedback from you guys, i realise that most of you guys are monster size and what i have gained doesnt look like much but for me this was more than i ever imagined i would get from AAS.

Im determined to move forward on this dedicated to getting bigger and stronger naturally.

Cycle finished, PCT started and results got! SWEET!
 
N00bzNight0ut said:
this is the worst photoshopped pics ever, lol. Straight outta a hydroxycut ad.


what a fuckin tool
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yes they are photoshopped to remove a prominent tattoo and my face, and yes photoshop is a great fucking tool :)
 
You've definetely made noticeable gains but it doesn't matter because you WILL lose it. Those gains won't magically stay around with your usual caloric intake because it's just not physically possible. Muscle costs energy to repair and uptake and if you aren't obtaining that energy through food (and you didn't as is evident from your before pic) it's going to just slowly eat your muscle away. Gear increases nitrogen retention; in other words, it does more with the protein that is available and thus you are able to grow and retain that muscle but as soon as you remove the gear it's back to default.

I hope that in the coming months you learn that there is NO easy way.
 
This bro is a liar. Lets look at the facts. He says that he could eat anything and everything and never gai a lb. he even went to doctors and they couldn't figure out the puzzle - so, he gets on the sauce and in 10 weeks he gains over 30lbs? No way. Anyone who has dabbled (99% of the people reading this) knows that as great as gear is, it isn't complete magic. This guy should be banned for being a bullshitter.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
This bro is a liar. Lets look at the facts. He says that he could eat anything and everything and never gai a lb. he even went to doctors and they couldn't figure out the puzzle - so, he gets on the sauce and in 10 weeks he gains over 30lbs? No way. Anyone who has dabbled (99% of the people reading this) knows that as great as gear is, it isn't complete magic. This guy should be banned for being a bullshitter.
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lol. no shit,

i wonder if creating a thread like this boosts his ego or something.

its kind of like posting pictures of a playboy model and saying its your wife, except his playboy model is 80lbs. looking like a crack whore.
 
rg78 said:
interesting read on the other forum
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and you know its him in both because who the fuck honestly writes their weight 145.9 lbs or 180.3 lbs. Same douche bag in both threads


its like he jumps from one forum to another switching up his stats to see peoples responce and get a self esteem boost.
 
N00bzNight0ut said:
and you know its him in both because who the fuck honestly writes their weight 145.9 lbs or 180.3 lbs. Same douche bag in both threads


its like he jumps from one forum to another switching up his stats to see peoples responce and get a self esteem boost.
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That and the fact that the cycle is identical
 
I couldnt really give a shit of you believe this or not, I know what weight i was when i started and weight i am now!

No AAS are not magic, but they work and they worked extremely well on me, maybe peoples body types is different, maybe metabolism type has an effect, who knows!

You dont like what im writing then dont follow the thread anymore!

Any wonder people are scared to post on these forums, never mind post pics, wankers like yourself get in the way of solid research and knowledge by throwing everything and everyone in the gutter.

Get a fucking life mate, what Ego boost can i possibly get from an Internet Forum, nobody knows me nor probably ever will, like i said before, if my results really get on your nerves that much then read no more, simple!
 
rq78 (ok so youve gone from having the build of a junkie to a skinny dude that looks like he's done a handful of bicep curls. Congratulations) lol so true
 
look bro, very few people get blasted on this site for posting pics. just keep in mind that the majority of people on this board are pretty smart (well that may be pushing it - lol. how about "alot" of guys on this board asre pretty smart) and they can smell bullshit. It's not that your pics were unbeleivable because your overall shape didn't change at all. Your symetry is exactly the same. You WILL lose the weight (which looks like it was about 15lbs) over time and you have no idea what you're doing in the gym. Those are facts and I can state them as facts because I'm smarter than you are. If you post a thread with legit pics and stats bravo to you. If you lie, you're going to get calle out on it. This is one of the most helpful boards out there but if you lie the dudes here are ruthless. Skinny little punks like you should not be messing with the sauce. Gear is for people that are serious about pushing the boundries of their physique not for 140 pounders (unless of course it's a 140lb woman) that lack the discipline to eat right and lift smart. Anybody that tells me that they can eat anything and not gain a lb is a liar. At 140lbs (barring a disease) there is no way you won't grow eating 4500 cals per day and if you don't grow, bump to 5000cals. How about 6000 cals? Are you saying you wouldn't gain a lb at 6000cals per day?
 
N00bzNight0ut said:
lol. no shit,

i wonder if creating a thread like this boosts his ego or something.

its kind of like posting pictures of a playboy model and saying its your wife, except his playboy model is 80lbs. looking like a crack whore.
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motive?
 
chilledandy said:
I think its pretty rude of all the guys flaming this poor chap - yeah thats right i said it, chap.
Seriously though, what gives any of you the right to flame him for taking AAS. Why are any of us on this forum? None of us have any special reason why we should take them. He hasn't mentioned his age so we don't know that he's actually physically too young like 17 or 18 or something.
If he's hit 20 then fair enough, it will have no more of a negative impact on his body then AAS have on our bodies.
As for all the "you could have gained more natty" blah blah blah... I say bullshit.
I had the same skeleton he had when i was 20. I had trained since the age of 14, tanned the protein shakes and mega mass 4000 from argos for years. Tried creatine, GABA, and Boron back when that was meant to be the "next big thing" and gained nothing other than a tiny bit of shape. I took Sus 250, 300mg of Deca and 25mg of Dbol for 8 weeks and gained around 25lbs or so. I've never looked back. I used gear on and off for about 7 years. I now way in at around 185-190lbs and have been off the gear for 2 years pretty much so i'm more than happy that I did it. The benefits phycologically for one where tremendous. Plus, the pussy...
Its easy (or perhaps easier) for guys with a less ectomorphic (is that right?) skeleton to gain weight than for some one like me or this guy. I literally couldn't have gained anything more than a couple of pounds off eating till i was sick and trainging my ass off for an entire year. Some people just simply do not have the genetics at all.
The guy who made the particularly insulting comment about going from being a junkie to a normal skinny guy is just ignorant. I'm sure there are loads of guys much much bigger than you too. How would you feel if your efforts where belittled in such a patronizing way just because your not as big as the next guy?
The point is, we all use steroids to get bigger for what ever reason, non of us have any real need to. I'd suggest that this guy probably had more reason than most given his before pics.
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good post.
 
dballed said:
Hi Guys,

this is my progress from start to finish of my Cycle, I have been slated on other forums of my choices to do this course but when you see the pictures and the state my body was in prior you will understand.

I know im gonna get shit for doing this cycle too early but really we all have our reasons, so before you start slating, ask yourself, why is your reasons more viable than mine?

The last pic was taken at 12 weeks although my course was only 10 weeks, currently on PCT as to previous reccomendations on the forum, which i might add has been a great source of knowledge for me.

I have researched until my eyes bled prior to doing this cycle (approx 1 and a half years research)

I am really happy with the results, task now is to try and keep as much of my gains as possible. I doubt i will do another course in the near future, I got exactly what I wanted and more so I think i will continue with the training and diet just as hard there shouldnt be a problem

My starting Weight was 145.5 LBS

My weight on the 12th Week pic is 180.7 LBS

LET THE FUN BEGIN.......................

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wtf happened man? i got better gains than that without AAS and i did it in three months . . .

Are you a hardgainer? 98% of the public isn't a hardgainer, you might be if that is all you got.

it has to be your diet, AAS synthesizes protein, did you even take protein shakes on your cycle?

Did you eat atleast a gram of protein for every pound of bodyweight?

Those pics are a lil pathetic, i mean that in the nicest way possible :)

Just please, no more AAS for you, stay off of it, until you work out longer.
 
well even if the pics are you. that is not 35lbs from pic to pic more like 10 and pumped. it looks like you went from not lifting to lifting on aas. btw no one gets flamed for posting real pics...those i dunno
 
yes looks good ignore the shit on here there is allways some fucker takeing piss must have nothing better to do.dont let it bother you!
 
doogle said:
yes looks good ignore the shit on here there is allways some fucker takeing piss must have nothing better to do.dont let it bother you!
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wtf looks good? his hair increased hair growth? :evil:
 
dballed said:
I couldnt really give a shit of you believe this or not, I know what weight i was when i started and weight i am now!

No AAS are not magic, but they work and they worked extremely well on me, maybe peoples body types is different, maybe metabolism type has an effect, who knows!

You dont like what im writing then dont follow the thread anymore!

Any wonder people are scared to post on these forums, never mind post pics, wankers like yourself get in the way of solid research and knowledge by throwing everything and everyone in the gutter.

Get a fucking life mate, what Ego boost can i possibly get from an Internet Forum, nobody knows me nor probably ever will, like i said before, if my results really get on your nerves that much then read no more, simple!
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You're the "wanker" mate!!! The people who are giving negative responses are giving knowledge, not "getting in the way of solid research and knowledge". If a newbie sees people giving you props they are going to think it's alright to cycle with no base, a shitty diet, and weak training. These bro's know alot more about the AAS and training game, quit arguing and take the advice.

You need to relax and realize that you could have got alot more out of that cycle. Take the advice and quit crying.

I understand you wanting to do AAS, but face it that you weren't ready. I saw more of a composition change in my first 3 months of lifting my ass off and taking creatine. It's been said before but AAS aren't magic. Bust your ass and the results will come.

You do look better, but I wouldn't tell anyone that it took juice to get to the size you are now.
 
This response is written with the understanding that those are your real pics. If they aren't, then your a loser.


Don't listen to all these people bud. Some people make valid points, but a lot of it is total bull. Obviously, you didn't have much experience training. You PROBABLY shouldn't have taken AAS. But so what? No matter when you take AAS, it isn't good for you to be cycling with the doses a lot of people on these boards use. Sure, you could have seen those kind of gains naturally. It may have taken you a few months more. The thing is, you may never have seen those gains because you would have never been motivated enough to continue training for 12 weeks if you never got results. I could care less whether your poor results trying to gain weight previously were from poor diet/training or some problem with your body. What is important is that you saw results, and your really happy with it. You understood the risks, and you still chose to do it. It sounds like you may have had a total change in mindset now. Perhaps now you will be more willing to maintain a good diet and training routine. You may have thought you were getting the calories before, but you probably weren't. Now that you understand everything, you can now use that base you have to continue naturally and make great progress. However, if you do truly have a disease or something, making gains will be hard.

Don't let these people fool you. A lot of people on here preach the "Genetic Limit" theory. Don't take AAS until you've reached your genetic potential. I personally don't see the point. If you aren't competeing, and your just using AAS for recreational/personal use then thats a total waste of your time. If you take the time to learn as much as possible about AAS and diet/training, then you can use them together to get to where you want to be a hell of a lot faster/easier than if you did it naturally. You have more learning to do, but you probably know that. We all have a lot more we need to learn. Don't get me wrong, ideally you do want to have a good base. I did when I started, and I took the advice from these boards. I'm happy I did, but it isn't a 100% requirement. I'd LOVE to know how many people on these boards trained to their genetic limit before AAS use. I'd be willing to say probably not that many. (Especially if you take out the guys who compete; props to them)

I'll use myself as an example. I've done several cycles. Last year I had some issues, and I couldn't train for a very long time. I lost a lot of the gains I had worked so hard for. I was very out of shape. It was pretty terrible. Many, many people would have said that I should not have done a cycle at this point. My bodyfat was pretty high. Thats another one of those "theories". Don't use AAS until your bodyfat is sub-12% or something ridiculous. Thats utter BS. I did do a cycle and the results were phenomenal. I'm personally the most satisfied I've ever been with my body. I'm 6'2 260ish and about 12-15% BF I'd say. I knew what I wanted, and I knew if I worked hard and got everything straight then I would get the results I wanted. Thats the important thing.



That was a long ass response and I never intended to go that far into it. I don't want anyone to take offense to this post, and its just my opinion. I don't condone stupid/reckless use of AAS or anything, so don't take it that way.

And if this prick is putting up fake pics, well then he's a loser. However, this resposne is still applicable to a lot of people that get a lot of flack on here.
 
I believe he gained 35 lbs.... but he forgot to metion that 25 lbs. of it was chest hair.

Sorry but like some of the others on here said you have not yet (in my opinion) earned the right to use gear.
 
If I knew running cycles got my hair to change colors by itself I would have started running AAS a long time ago...Alot easier than feeling gay trying to get your hair highlighted hahaha.

"NEW JUST FOR MEN COLOR CHANGING HAIR PRODUCT- TEST E, NOW WITH DECA!"

-Legacy
 
kaisersose said:
So....you don't do anabolic androgenic steroids, you probably never will, you hate food and you are hanging out on a steroid 101 bulletin board to ..."wonder why someone decided it was time to use AAs." I'm speechless. And on top of this, you are some pothead whose avatar looks like a terrorist. Did I miss something here?
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dear stupid cunt,

i missed this gem, but quality like this deserves a response. you've missed a few things, perhaps because you're a fucking douchebag with a low level of intelligence.

1. never done aas, but i might. i said i didn't know, not that i probably wouldn't. nothing wrong with nattys reading up, that's part of the point of this board.

2. i exaggerated about eating, pendejo, but it can get tedious. is there anyone here who hasn't felt that eating on schedule throughout the day can be a chore? never gotten tired of chicken? ok.

3. congratulations, you're similar to a lot of the lowest common denominator idiots that frequent EF. i've never heard the terrorist remarks before, props on originality. i'm from india, however. all of this is completely relevant.

4. enacer, shut your e-mouth and think for a minute. you might be better than that bullshit response. try. high five on joining in on the bigotry.

5. a lot of people here smoke weed. irrelevant.

6. my question is valid. it wasn't an attack, but i was curious to understand his motivation. his case is not typical at all, is it?

7. feel free to post pics of your patriotic and handsome faces.

8. you've been here a fucking worthless minute, so you don't know, but i've been here over 4 years, posting mostly on other fora unrelated to aas, and come to the aas board on occasion.

9. let me know if i've missed something here, e-hero.
 
yeah still don't buy that these are his pics!! if they were he'd be happy to prove it in some form or fashion... but there's alot of no-life-motherfuckers in the world and one has just pissed away another few minutes of my precious time... unless he provides some proof of life... as said above give us a thumbs up pic or write on a slip of paper "fuck off all you non-believing fucks" and snap a pic and post it... we know he has the tech and the understanding to carry out the tsak and it would end the debate... but I doubt that will happen!!
 
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