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1 Test Cypionate - Worthless prohormone or real deal??

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'Sup Y'all. Newbie here. I was wondering what's the verdict on this stuff I came across on the web, namely:

1 Test Cypionate, 4-hydroxytestosterone Decanoate, 4-hydroxynandrolone Decanoate, and 4-AD Decanoate.

I read the descriptions and while a couple are admittedly prohormones, it seems as if the 1 test Cyp is being marketed as the real stuff. Any help please?

Thanks!
-Roadapple :D

http://www.teamliferesearch.com/hormones_solution.html
 
check out the supplements boards. As far as I am concerned, no reason to do prohormones, do the real deal. You 200 mgs of substance y so it turns into 3 mgs of substance x and who the hell knows what the rest of it becomes? Just take 3 mgs of substance x if that is what you want.

PG
 
I wonder why this thread wasn't moved?

I'm sure it will now that I post on it, however.

1T is active on it's own and doesn't require conversion. Same with 4OHT and 4AD.
 
You realize testosterone is a pro-hormone right? Being a pro-hormone doesn't preclude intrinsic activity. 1-test is the "real deal."
 
While I am not a prohormone type guy, I hear the menthl 1 test blows all of the other 1 test's out of the water. If you want to go with PH's check into that. But what a waste of $. You can get Real Test Enanthate for a bunch less.
 
I heard 1 Test Cyp is great stuff. I'm looking into using it instead of Fina...
I'm not really sure why people are still calling ProHormones Supplements... they are not. A ProHormone with an Ester just doesn't seem like a Supp to me.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I heard 1 Test Cyp is great stuff. I'm looking into using it instead of Fina...
I'm not really sure why people are still calling ProHormones Supplements... they are not. A ProHormone with an Ester just doesn't seem like a Supp to me.
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FINALLY! Someone that isn't an ass about pro-hormones. I don't use them, nor do I suggest anyone else use them. When these threads get moved, the people don't get answers and they might use them as a result ...

Leave them here for:

1. THEY ARE ANABOLIC, regardless of what you think of them ( and this is the anabolic forum)
2. The potential user can be swayed not to use them, because we know the risk/reward ratio sucks compared to the real deal.

Moving them to the supplement board is just childish if you ask me. They ARE anabolic, and besides we tolerate all kinds of OT posts here, but it seems anytime a pro-hormone post comes up some cowboy moves it because they have a problem with pro-hormones.
 
BALH..........do u relize that 1-t IS NOT A PROHORMONE. its an active steroid by itself. i agree that Test Enanthate is much cheaper, but not all of us has access to steroids. but m1t is cheap and i can tell you it gave me gains better than fina. believe it or not
 
before taking the plunge i had great results using 4ad and 1test
 
Big Rick Rock....is there any info we can read to support this. I've seen some of the 1-test, and 4ads work for bros of mine but always told them it was in thier head.
 
Why do people who juice absolutely refuse to understand why somebody else might not want to? Some people just don't want to risk it.
 
Mythicalbeing said:
Big Rick Rock....is there any info we can read to support this. I've seen some of the 1-test, and 4ads work for bros of mine but always told them it was in thier head.
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I don't have any studies to back it up, but from what I understand - prohormones do work. The problem is that the sides are more pronounced therefore they are actually more dangerous than the real thing.

Some country, the safer compounds are scheduled whereas the dangerous ones are available OTC.

JH1
 
Thank you BRR! There is some hope around here!

Now bring back that other PH thread which was incorrectly moved to the supplement board, too.

Though I said it on there I'll say it again which echos what some have said on here and that is that many of the 'PH" are actually pro-steroids and have been studied by the med community though the research is hard to find. Additionally, some of them have effects on the body without being converted which goes without saying.

Yea, some are expensive, but if you know where to get it, it's as cheap as or cheaper than AS and it's LEGAL!

And finally, many of the PH work vastly better of different when taken in ways besides oral!
 
600mg 1-test cypionate per week gave equal gains and superior strength gains to 700mg TA per week, pretty damn impressive. No insomnia, night sweats but there was some lethargy that went away after a couple weeks. You can brew up 1-test cypionate for less than $8.00 per gram.
 
I didn't realize the stuff was so highly regarded, maybe I will give it a try sometime. Is it suppresive?
 
ProHormones got a Bad reputation since most people began using them Oraly... absorbtion was horrible and it made them financilly impossible... when some people started buying the KiloSport stuff and making it injectable things took a turn.... Now with some companies selling Steril, and Esterified versions of the stuff it really is as good or better then AS in some ways.
Soe people seem to think that "the real thing" is better... think about this, most of the AS avalible today were created some 40-50 years ago... the new generation of PH were created recently and are more of a type or "Designer" steroid than anything else.
I think in time we will find that more people will turn to the use of ProHormones onse there is more literature/studies on them.
 
Yes, 1T causes HPT suppression.

The lethargy and sometimes flu-like symptoms are most likely from immune system suppression/reaction which nearly everyone who takes 1T gets.

Other hormones of this genre don't cause this problem.
 
Big Rick Rock said:

I think in time we will find that more people will turn to the use of ProHormones onse there is more literature/studies on them.
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Heheheh... I whole-heartedly agree... then once that same literature and studies become available the 'authorities' will read them and make them 'Schedule II' substances.... because they are a new evil breed of lean mass building substances.... :confused:
 
1-Test Cyp. is just as real an AS as Test Cyp. is, it's legal due to a loophole. Very suppressive, would take with some kind of Test if possible. Great lean gains. I've done Dazed's 1-T Cyp, but Designer Supps has it for a much better price. Dazed's was completely painless, I haven't tried Designer's but I've read that it's painless too. 25 gauge is what I used.
 
Mythicalbeing said:
Big Rick Rock....is there any info we can read to support this. I've seen some of the 1-test, and 4ads work for bros of mine but always told them it was in thier head.
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I wish I did but I really do not... I hope somebody whom is more familiar with the actions of PH will post up some literature.

I have not used any ProHormones since George owned MassQuantities and I used some of our PH Products in addition to my AS cycles. There are a lot of new PHormones outhere now and I'm researching them before I decide to add them to my cycles... I don't do anything unless I have read extensively about it... I'm especifically looking at 1-tes-cypionate and 1-Test-17aa... I'm also waiting on some literature about 7OHM...

I have come to "accept" some of the side effects associated with the use of certain AS... I'm looking into alternatives to replace certain AS with PH in order to minimize the side effects even if I have to give up a little bit of size in the process.
 
By the time you find the research they might be gone!

If close personal friends hadn't tried this stuff while waiting for research, we'd likely still be looking.

Most research doesn't say much about sides and the like such as you see with m1T.
 
Animal said:
By the time you find the research they might be gone!

If close personal friends hadn't tried this stuff while waiting for research, we'd likely still be looking.

Most research doesn't say much about sides and the like such as you see with m1T.
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I doubt they'll be "gone" somebody will carry them on their little black list somewhere. AS where made illegal back in 1990, yet there is a triving industry constantly supplying them...

I don't see them completely disapearing, I do see them becoming more specalized and highly sophisticated... A new generation of Anabolic Hormones.... It was about friggin time, most of the AS being used now have been around since the 1930s- 1950s...

PS: How about you take the time to give us a quick run thru of what is what and what it compares to?
 
pharmguy said:
check out the supplements boards. As far as I am concerned, no reason to do prohormones, do the real deal. PG
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Do nuts like this ever READ this board? Every day, you see:

"I just got scammed, please help"

"My shit got seized by customs"

"My dealer just got busted"

"Is this fake shit"

"It hurts when I injected into my ass hole":D

Here are GREAT reasons to use LEGAL supps if they work at only a fraction of the level the dark side stuff does, and even if they are more expensive on a mg by mg basis.

But there are some awesome Methyl products out right now with a few more coming.

Listen to Animal, this guy knows they work.
 
Shark01 said:


Do nuts like this ever READ this board? Every day, you see:

"I just got scammed, please help"

"My shit got seized by customs"

"My dealer just got busted"

"Is this fake shit"

"It hurts when I injected into my ass hole":D

Here are GREAT reasons to use LEGAL supps if they work at only a fraction of the level the dark side stuff does, and even if they are more expensive on a mg by mg basis.

But there are some awesome Methyl products out right now with a few more coming.

Listen to Animal, this guy knows they work.
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Best post ever.
 
I'm still lauging cause it woulda been sufficient to stop at the following line as it says it all!

'"It hurts when I injected into my ass hole" '
 
And you can't get into the chemicalanarchy board unless you are a donator!
 
And look around cause now that BRR has allowed variant hormone discussion threads to take place, people are saying 1T and derivatives work right under your nose.
 
Laser0001 said:
I caught that early on in his posting and was guessing it was due to the new sponsor.
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Nothing to do with sponsors... all to do with facts.
 
Yea, actually BRR IS ALL the other people posting up threads about other hormones working, too!
 
Animal said:
And you can't get into the chemicalanarchy board unless you are a donator!
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So you have to donate to join a board that's down? LOL


just messin with ya.
 
Well I am glad to see that more of the anabolic board realm people are coming to their senses about whats going on in the (legal for now) supplement world. I remember the fucks that wanted to bitch slap me over my endorsement of 1AD. I have been on and off the dark side since 1982, and those 1AD pumps were as good as anything I ever had. Now I have a couple bottles of M1T sitting here, hope my liver is ready, cause I bet its going to rock.
 
No cause I was happy with the absorbtion and activity of the oral 1AD when I took it three times a day, but that was at least 600mg or so. Seemed a little up and down still. The longer half-life of M1T should make twice a day plenty, at only 20mg per day total from what I hear.
 
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