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WESTERN UNION & PAYMENTS ONLINE!!

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if you pay via credit/debit card online for 'supplements'.. BAD MOVE!!!

word is some sources no longer take those payments as its unsafe for business.. plus it leaves a trail...

i always suggest you find a location near your home at:
www.westernunion.com

pay be cash!!!!
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that is absolutely TRUE. if you have to. just don't mention specifics in your e-mail. such as pharmaceutical names and info.
 
satchboogie said:
if you pay via credit/debit card online for 'supplements'.. BAD MOVE!!!

word is some sources no longer take those payments as its unsafe for business.. plus it leaves a trail...

i always suggest you find a location near your home at:
www.westernunion.com

pay be cash!!!!
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correct. also those fuckers doesnt allow to wire money sometimes, with cc you have a limit and when you send cash in person from WU office you can send any amount you want.
 
Retabolil2 said:
correct. also those fuckers doesnt allow to wire money sometimes, with cc you have a limit and when you send cash in person from WU office you can send any amount you want.
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also, I don't think pickups can be made at WU for money sent by credit card, and we know everyone likes the test question...
 
satchboogie said:
if you pay via credit/debit card online for 'supplements'.. BAD MOVE!!!

word is some sources no longer take those payments as its unsafe for business.. plus it leaves a trail...

i always suggest you find a location near your home at:
www.westernunion.com

pay be cash!!!!
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Without a doubt bro.... I never use WU online.... Wiring money to the middle east or asia using my credit card is just too much of a risk, especially when going to a WU location is easy.....
 
bunch of idiots out there, next thing you'll know ppl. will be buying crack w/ a credit card via WU - just plain stupid.

wtf was the person thinkig using a CC for that? jesus!
 
anybody have a link to where WU gets thier rates from, or is it a percentage of amount being sent, seems like it is always a different amount or percentage????
 
CENTURION44 said:
WU= RIP OFF...Most people i know only deal with sources that except cash.
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sorry to burst your bubble, but any source who takes cash in the mail is really beggin to get busted. ill explain..

when paying online with credit card with wu, the customer leaves his trailmarks.

when accepting cash in the mail, the SOURCE leaves a trail behind...
and if the feds made the order, they'd know EXACTLY where to find that source.. a horrible mistake made by amateure sources.

the only excpetion to that is if the source is located outside of the u.s or in a country where gear is legal.. like turkey for example :)
 
I don't really think WU is alltogether safe. Cameras are everywhere...and not only that but source only have so many locations to pick up funds. That means they only have a finite amount of names they can use (talking about US sources anyways). So in that way it is about as easy to leave a trail through WU as it is by cash in the mail. A smart US source will only accept payments via egold or something of that nature. Lets the customer buy something legal and then anonymously transfer funds to another anonymous account.
 
satchboogie said:
if you pay via credit/debit card online for 'supplements'.. BAD MOVE!!!

word is some sources no longer take those payments as its unsafe for business.. plus it leaves a trail...

i always suggest you find a location near your home at:
www.westernunion.com

pay be cash!!!!
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agreed
 
satchboogie said:
sorry to burst your bubble, but any source who takes cash in the mail is really beggin to get busted. ill explain..

when paying online with credit card with wu, the customer leaves his trailmarks.

when accepting cash in the mail, the SOURCE leaves a trail behind...
and if the feds made the order, they'd know EXACTLY where to find that source.. a horrible mistake made by amateure sources.

the only excpetion to that is if the source is located outside of the u.s or in a country where gear is legal.. like turkey for example :)
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I agree with Satch on this one. I never send cash in the mail and I hope my main source stops allowing it. Nothing raises P.O. suspicion more than a constant influx of cash throught the mail to the same address. I mean come on guys, you can only receive so many birthday cards from grandma in the mail before somebody raises an eye brow.
 
What do cameras have to do with anything. Like they will come in and run back the cameras and spot you and say you were picking up western Union funds. In the city I am from there are hundreds of western Union sites.




used2juice said:
I don't really think WU is alltogether safe. Cameras are everywhere...and not only that but source only have so many locations to pick up funds. That means they only have a finite amount of names they can use (talking about US sources anyways). So in that way it is about as easy to leave a trail through WU as it is by cash in the mail. A smart US source will only accept payments via egold or something of that nature. Lets the customer buy something legal and then anonymously transfer funds to another anonymous account.
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BLACKDOOG said:
What do cameras have to do with anything. Like they will come in and run back the cameras and spot you and say you were picking up western Union funds. In the city I am from there are hundreds of western Union sites.
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Well let's see...cameras pick up images...images can be used against a person doing a criminal act. Are you having trouble following so far? :rolleyes:

And to answer your retarded NEAR question, YES, if law enforcement is after a source and they can see the source is picking up thousands of dollars at the same say 8-10 places...you are damn right they will rewind the cameras and look at the face of who is picking up that cash. Might come in handy when they get you and prosecute you for tax evasion, distribution, etc. I don't know what city you are from, but I live in a larger city in orange county california, and within 20 miles there are only 9 WU pickup locations. And keep in mind too that just because places SAY they are WU pickup locations, doesn't mean they will actually pay out. Lots of places also have a $200-400 limit. So absolutely if the source is willing to drive a hundred miles back and forth to pick up WU's all day then they are a little better off. But if LE is on to them, then picking up WU's is going to get their face caught on camera, and no doubt their prints on papers.
 
just to clear things up..

only in AMERICA, cameras are set up at wu locations!!!
ive never ever seen one in europe!
 
couple of things:

When you use your CC at WU it goes through as a cash advance! Thats just irresponsible.

The Feds do look at tapes. The Secret Service and the Attorney General raided a building the other day. I was watching them rewind all the serveillence tapes on the cpu.
 
satchboogie said:
sorry to burst your bubble, but any source who takes cash in the mail is really beggin to get busted. ill explain..

when paying online with credit card with wu, the customer leaves his trailmarks.

when accepting cash in the mail, the SOURCE leaves a trail behind...
and if the feds made the order, they'd know EXACTLY where to find that source.. a horrible mistake made by amateure sources.

the only excpetion to that is if the source is located outside of the u.s or in a country where gear is legal.. like turkey for example :)
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Point taken...but the sources i deal with do not use one location. I have placed many many orders and have sent the cash to a diff locaation each time. I just dont feel sources should be making such huge profit margins and also ask the customers to incrue the extrea exspense..we are both taking a risk. Cust and Source have just as much to lose(as far as jail time)....
 
Like I said where I live at there are a hundred of Western Union Agents and like Satch said they do not all have cameras and if you know what you are doing you should use the Test Question and Answer section that way when you pick up your money you do not have to show an ID and you can use different names and go to different WU locations and keep the money you pick up under $1000 so the sender can use the Test question and Answer section on the form. What I said was not retarded. If you are stupid enough to use your true identity when receiving money for purposes you know may not be so legal then that is on your stupid ass. And if the law does not know who you are what the fuck can the cameras really do especially if you live in a big city.


used2juice said:
Well let's see...cameras pick up images...images can be used against a person doing a criminal act. Are you having trouble following so far? :rolleyes:

And to answer your retarded NEAR question, YES, if law enforcement is after a source and they can see the source is picking up thousands of dollars at the same say 8-10 places...you are damn right they will rewind the cameras and look at the face of who is picking up that cash. Might come in handy when they get you and prosecute you for tax evasion, distribution, etc. I don't know what city you are from, but I live in a larger city in orange county california, and within 20 miles there are only 9 WU pickup locations. And keep in mind too that just because places SAY they are WU pickup locations, doesn't mean they will actually pay out. Lots of places also have a $200-400 limit. So absolutely if the source is willing to drive a hundred miles back and forth to pick up WU's all day then they are a little better off. But if LE is on to them, then picking up WU's is going to get their face caught on camera, and no doubt their prints on papers.
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That's is true. Where I leave there are a bunch of WU places. Some of them don't have camers. I still think that WU is the way to go if you know how to dodge and play your game! :chomp:
 
maldorf said:
What kind of fool sticks $1000 into an envelope and drops it in the mail?
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Me.........except its more like $10000. :qt:

Not envelope ....small box.....not mail... but private like FedEx UPS
 
You are right buddy you have to dodge and play your game right and be creative.



schneiderc2004 said:
That's is true. Where I leave there are a bunch of WU places. Some of them don't have camers. I still think that WU is the way to go if you know how to dodge and play your game! :chomp:
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Mr. Laredo said:
Me.........except its more like $10000. :qt:

Not envelope ....small box.....not mail... but private like FedEx UPS
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I cant see how that would be worth such a gamble, especially if its going international. You don't insure the package do you, as that would leave a trail. If it gets lost or intercepted, youre out 10k, yikes.
 
The WU that I use only asks for ID if sending $1000 or more so I always use fake information on it like Frank N. Stein. :) Slatl....abs are looking good!
 
IF WU is all a person can get to, than it is a fine choice. But I think that it sucks to have pay the additional price that they charge you. Most times you can pick up at least an extra bottle of test with the fee that you pay to send it by WU.
 
what about that paypal thing, I have bought lot's of stuff with them, but gear, I have not been able to find an online site that I can trust to actually get steroids.
But I mean the thing is great, you use your e-mail and you can even buy a guarantee for your money back, if you don't like the product or for anyother reason you send it back and they will refund your money(not the seller)
 
First of all, I am looking at it from a sources perspective, not ours. I can easily walk into a WU location and send a few hundred dollars and not be scared. But if you are a source and you are picking up bunches of cash at a time, then that is a problem. Here, let's look at why...

1. Just because a place is said to be a payout location, some refuse to (or will only give out checks)
2. Some places will only pay out less than $300 at a time, so you can only pick up 1 at a place.
3. You pick up WU's at grocery stores or cash advance places, I don't know any place that has that much cash and DOESN'T have a camera hidden somewhere.
4. You can only pick up so much cash without ID before some places will flat out say "you can't pick up money here without your ID anymore." Think I'm lying? Well it's happened to me and I'm not even a source!

SO, AS A SOURCE IN THE USA, you are not safe using western union IMO. There are gonna be cameras at 99.9% of the places you go to pick up cash. You only have so many places you can go to and pick up CASH without ID. Once the feds get a name and location, all they have to do is call WU and ask them where they are being paid out, and WU will tell them. Then the feds go to these places and look at the cameras at the time the payout was made and OHHHHH LOOOOOK, there is your source picking up your money.

To me, that sounds a lot less safe than anonymously transferring funds frm one offshore bank account to another offshore bank account.
 
So you should not use credit cards? What about the online sites that say they accept cc's? And yea, im a newbie. So the best way is to use WU? And take cash in? Have been thinking of going the online route, instead of face to face at the gym.
 
We all know that all bros don't have the same options, and although guys are sharing good advice on what they feel is or is not the best thing to do, most bros have to do what they feel is safest and most secure based on the options available to them.

I like what Satch said, I cannot believe that foreign WU locations have the same type of security procedures we do in the US, with Australia being the exception. Can anyone shed more light or speak further to this for those whose sources are overseas?

Also, is it true that WU will never ask you for an ID if your total is less than $1,000?
 
zips92 said:
We all know that all bros don't have the same options, and although guys are sharing good advice on what they feel is or is not the best thing to do, most bros have to do what they feel is safest and most secure based on the options available to them.

I like what Satch said, I cannot believe that foreign WU locations have the same type of security procedures we do in the US, with Australia being the exception. Can anyone shed more light or speak further to this for those whose sources are overseas?

Also, is it true that WU will never ask you for an ID if your total is less than $1,000?
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Yeah, I have NO IDEA what WU locations are like outside the USA. I was ONLY speaking for those WU location IN the usa. As for the ID question, you should not have to show ID for any amount under $1K in the usa. HOWEVER, just because WU doesn't require it, sometimes the retarded clerk will ask you for it. So have an explanation ready for why you don't have it.
 
wu is like a doctor patient secrecy , ive used wu many times, when i got busted for international controled delivery WU gave them nothing even after my house was searched and wu slips were overlooked THANK\ GOD! but the 20 percernt SUCKS, sources should use pay pal!
 
WU may be safe, but I hate the fee's as many have mentioned already

Whiskey
 
One other little tip.

Being that WU wants and ID when sending over 1000 dollars. If you dont have a fake ID. I suggest telling your source that you are sending multi WU transactions. It might cost you a few extra bucks in transaction fees but its worth not getting caught.

Im lucky that there are like 10 places in my area that send WU's. So if i need to i can go to several different places and place 900 dollar WU orders.
 
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