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IS THIS THE CORRECT METHODOLOGY FOR INJECTING STERIODS (FIRST TIME USER AGE 68)

moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
I am purchasing 20 and 27 gauge needles to use for injecting testosterone in my body via my stomach. I am told that I should use the 27 gauge to draw the test out of the bottle and use the 20 guage to inject into my stomach.

Is this correct?

Moonshadow
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Good morning,firstly please dont stab a 20guage in your tummy.Are you using 27 guage insulin needles?Usually people would draw with a 20 and not jab.27-30 is fine for sub injections.8mm-13mm in length.
 
Whoa! Thanks for setting me straight. So I will shop on amazon for the 8mm 13mm in length. Yes I am looking at the insulin needles, so I will go with the 20 instead for drawing the solution and use the 8mm - 13 mm for injecting. Again, thanks for setting me straight.
 
moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
Whoa! Thanks for setting me straight. So I will shop on amazon for the 8mm 13mm in length. Yes I am looking at the insulin needles, so I will go with the 20 instead for drawing the solution and use the 8mm - 13 mm for injecting. Again, thanks for setting me straight.
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No prob,we all start somewhere.The insulin needle will be very slow with the oil but take your time.Best of luck 💪
 
moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
I am purchasing 20 and 27 gauge needles to use for injecting testosterone in my body via my stomach. I am told that I should use the 27 gauge to draw the test out of the bottle and use the 20 guage to inject into my stomach.

Is this correct?

Moonshadow
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you're 68 bro welcome to EF you doing TRT???
 
moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
Yeah. I trained in my 20s and my last serious efforts were in 2012. Now, I want to train to compete. I want to walk across that stage and get the gold for my age group. Looking forward to getting help from the community.
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@moonshadow_shadowmoon you want to compete bro? this is the masters win
you on HGH?
you check @RawCutlery log? he doing masters Olympia
 
Coolguy77711 said:
What your injection protocol going to be? I personally use 30g 1/2 for any needles subq and I draw with 21g.
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I have never felt like more like a dinosaur until now: I first googled how to inject testosterone and the google AI mislead me with the guidance of sticking that large behind needle in my tummy. Duh! Late last night I thought, well let me see if YouTube has training videos. Man, was I like caveman sitting in front of a computer. Everything was there for helping me—even from qualified doctors. Well, now I feel a lot better about performing the injections. Here is my strategy:



Area chosen on my body: VENTRO GLUTEAL INJECTION SITE, GLUTUES MEDIUS



FOR DRAWING OUT THE SERUM THE NEEDLE I WILL USE IS AN 18 gage needle 1.5”



For tst injections: I will use a 23g 1.0 or 1.5 for injections. Not sure which one will be suffice to reach my muscle area covered by, but I am l leaning towards the 1.0. Why: 18 months ago I weighed 225 pounds, borderline diabetic, heart disease. Now I weigh 140 pounds, so I don’t have much fat on my rear end.



Anyway, gonna keep reviewing the forum for information as I start this journey of reclaiming my masculinity at the age of 68. Hell, who knows, I may even find my sexy back and get laid by a beautiful woman. Wouldn’t that be a trip—healthy sex at my age: LOL (Look at the old man using kool language)HA HA HA



Wish me luck
 
the_alcatraz said:
@moonshadow_shadowmoon you want to compete bro? this is the masters win
you on HGH?
you check @RawCutlery log? he doing masters Olympia
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I do want to compete. I'm in Colorado Springs. I have to check out the local scene here and see what is going on. There is a Golds' Gym and I will check them out. Master Olympia! Whoa! That sounds great--but out of my league for now. And, yes eventually I will add HGH. Right Now, I am going to use testesterone soley--but that may change as I have purchased the steriod handbook from this site, and the more I read the more I want to add to my cycle--but I want to be careful and not over do it--ya know what i mean? Can't wait. Thanks for the reply, m'man.
 
moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
I do want to compete. I'm in Colorado Springs. I have to check out the local scene here and see what is going on. There is a Golds' Gym and I will check them out. Master Olympia! Whoa! That sounds great--but out of my league for now. And, yes eventually I will add HGH. Right Now, I am going to use testesterone soley--but that may change as I have purchased the steriod handbook from this site, and the more I read the more I want to add to my cycle--but I want to be careful and not over do it--ya know what i mean? Can't wait. Thanks for the reply, m'man.
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you gots to start a log right now bro! as you competing right @moonshadow_shadowmoon like 10min to do it for the show

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moonshadow_shadowmoon said:
I have never felt like more like a dinosaur until now: I first googled how to inject testosterone and the google AI mislead me with the guidance of sticking that large behind needle in my tummy. Duh! Late last night I thought, well let me see if YouTube has training videos. Man, was I like caveman sitting in front of a computer. Everything was there for helping me—even from qualified doctors. Well, now I feel a lot better about performing the injections. Here is my strategy:



Area chosen on my body: VENTRO GLUTEAL INJECTION SITE, GLUTUES MEDIUS



FOR DRAWING OUT THE SERUM THE NEEDLE I WILL USE IS AN 18 gage needle 1.5”



For tst injections: I will use a 23g 1.0 or 1.5 for injections. Not sure which one will be suffice to reach my muscle area covered by, but I am l leaning towards the 1.0. Why: 18 months ago I weighed 225 pounds, borderline diabetic, heart disease. Now I weigh 140 pounds, so I don’t have much fat on my rear end.



Anyway, gonna keep reviewing the forum for information as I start this journey of reclaiming my masculinity at the age of 68. Hell, who knows, I may even find my sexy back and get laid by a beautiful woman. Wouldn’t that be a trip—healthy sex at my age: LOL (Look at the old man using kool language)HA HA HA



Wish me luck
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1 inch definitely for injections 1.5 is way too big. Go for 25g orange tips if doing 1 inch. Smaller the needle the less pain 😆
 
No more big needles. I too will start to use the 25gx25mm (1 inc) for glutes, 25gx16mm for small muscle, and 27gx13mm for peptides. But I'like to know the best sites for IM the people of EF prefer
 
I wouldn’t inject anything over 27g, no reason to especially since you aren’t using high dosages where you are injecting 1cc or more at a time. If you’re going the luer lock syringe route I would draw with 22g (you can use an 18g or 20g, doesn’t really matter but the 22g wears down the vial rubber less), and I would inject with a 27g 1” if you’re using you’re glutes as your pin area.
 
Majinbot said:
No more big needles. I too will start to use the 25gx25mm (1 inc) for glutes, 25gx16mm for small muscle, and 27gx13mm for peptides. But I'like to know the best sites for IM the people of EF prefer
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Welcome to EF @Majinbot and congrats on being 68 yrs old and getting after it!

Looks like the boys have you covered here I just wanted to share that you can check out https://trtinjections.com/ for a how-to guide on pinning IM in all the most common and some more obscure sites that we've all used.
 
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