The truth is becoming "mean and lean" takes much much more than just aas to achieve. Just like its been stated, breaking through natural physical/genetic barriers are what aas help with. You NEED to be at that barrier for a while before considering some stacks like your talking about. Clean...
Its not that deca is bad for the first time..............well yeah it kind of is. I would hit with 450/wk of test......drop the deca...........when you run more than one compound your first round, you dont quite know where your sides might be coming from. And yeah at that dose that deca is NOT...