Posted by Dr. Dumb on March 10, 1997 at 20:29:11:
In Reply to: Re: B.C. or Juice Monkey....I need some of your expertice.. posted by Colorado on March 10, 1997 at 16:29:52:
: : A friend of mine went to Mexico 2 months ago and brought me back Reforvit-B and Norandren 50. I checked the labels of both vials (both are in 50mL vials) and they passed the label test. I also checked the tops for tightness and writing on them and they all seemed to check out with the information I obtained here on the FAQ list. So I am assuming that what I got is real. Is this a bad assumption or am I good so far? Is the Reforvit-B suppose to smell like vitamin E and be orange? I was told to take 2-3 cc's every 2-3 days, is this correct? What am I suppose to notice from Reforvit-B? The only thing I have found out about this stuff is that it hurts like hell going in (it burns too) and it raises a horrible bump on my ass. I'm using 22 gauge 1.5inch long needles and I am injecting 3cc each time. Am I just a wuss or am I injecting bogus stuff? I have stopped taking this stuff until I receive some kind of info about the above.
: : Now with the Norandren 50, I was told that it is only 30-35mg strength not the 50mg it says on the label, is this correct? I have been taking 11-12cc a week, is this a fair amount? I have not noticed the healing affects that I was told about Deca in this product. My elbows, knees, and shoulders still bother me during and after my workouts. I should mention, however, that I have had a lot of probs with these areas in the past. What I had heard about Deca is the biggest reason I started taking A.S.. What should I expect to gain from taking this product? I have been taking the two products and 1cc of prescription test. eneth. every week for about 8 weeks. I have not gained any increase in bulk. I started with a weight of 215lbs and I pretty much have not left that bench mark yet. Are these drugs bulking drugs? I try to eat 3000-4000 calories a day, but sometimes that is difficult do to the fact that I am a full time student with not that much time and a very light wallet. Is my lack of eating causing me to see no gains in size? I do feel a bit stronger in my incline bench and leg strength, but my flat bench has not moved at all since I have been using.
: : Well I think this is long enough.....Any and all info from you or anyone else with this kind of expertise would be much appreciated...
: : Thank you for your time
: : Buff Buzz
: Hey, bro, sorry I'm not B.C. or Juice Monkey but I am also a full time college student if that helps. Are you seriously injecting 11 to 12 cc's a WEEK! of the norandren!! Where are you injecting it? I don't know any one that injects that much in a weeks time. I would take the reforvit orally.
: That on top of the test enthanate, for 8 weeks, man you should have gained 20 pounds by now. It sound to me like this is your first, so yea, I would think at your body weight you you would have added atleast 20+ pds. I don't know if you just found this site but you should have posted around week 3
: when your gains didn't jump. I would bet that only the test enthanate is real and the 1 cc of that just isn't enough.
: Also, EAT, EAT, EAT, I have a half gallon 2% milk next to me right now (yes, I'm at school!) I froze part of it at 6:00 this morning and it's still cold. It cost 2 bucks, so you don't need alot of money, just be resorceful. At 215, 3-4000 calories probably just meets your maintaince needs.
: One of the Guru's will probably let you know for sure if your stuff, is real, but even with your low calories, I don't see how it could possibly be.
: So, no your not a wuse, yes you are most likely injecting bogus stuff. Get off everything for a few weeks, and do a cycle(search engine) with just the test enthanate, or something else you KNOW is real.
: To anyone else reading this. You don't need 15 cc's a week (of anything) to grow! If you start a cycle and a few (2-3)weeks go buy and you can't tell, you NEED to post, there are alot of killer guys here who have the experience, knowledge, and desire to help you.
: They love specific problems, because they can usually give a specific answer. Not quetions like which is better this or this, because there are too many factors to consider/mention.
: Sorry, so long.....back to class.......Colorado
Just to let buzz know that you're not the only one who thinks that, I'll back you up. Actually, if everybody on the board had time to post here, I think they would back you up. They guy's taking 400mg/week of Deca and injecting D-bol and adding test on top and he's not growing!?!?!? It doesn't take a Sherlock to figure out that something isn't right. I guess another way to confirm if the gear is bogus is to ask you what has happened to your sex-drive since you started. Everybody is different, but if I was on D-bal, Deca and test right now, typing would give me a stiffy. Good luck.