Posted by PA on March 08, 1997 at 10:16:16:
In Reply to: Re:Estradiol or benzoate doesn't really matter!. posted by Animal on March 08, 1997 at 00:46:51:
: : : : : : : A friend of mine said he could score me 10 cases
: : : : : : : of finnaplix. upon receiving the cases they were the
: : : : : : : revalor formulation question.. ANYONE out there know how
: : : : : : : to extract the estrogen from the pellets? I'd hate to have
: : : : : : : to chuck the batch. HELP!!!! 240 and counting!!!
: : : : : : There is a way to do it but I have to check to make sure and I
: : : : : : have to write it up on word 6 then I'll paste it in. 10 cases? That's 3000 bucks, really? You 'da man! Anarchy in the USA!
: : : : : I've got it, but I don't know if I want to post it. This is valuable info. I will probably post it but I would like to see if anybody else has any ideas. It only take one extra step. Anarchy in the USA!
: : : : If it is free estradiol then you might dissolve the pellets in methanol with KOH at a pH
: : : : of around 11 to 12 and you might make the salt of estradiol without saponifying the trenbolone
: : : : ester. Then you can dilute with water, add ether, wash ether several times with water until neutrality, dry over
: : : : sodium sulfate, and strip off ether to get TA.
: :
: : : : PA
: : : It's estradiol benzoate and i think you can do it in one step with acetone to pull out the estradiol. to make sure this worked you take the acetone solution and evaporate it off. this should leave very little powder in the bottom as there are 240mg estradiol in a pack but 1200mg tren ace. If it does or doesn't work your next step could be to dissolve the residue left with methanol and pour it off saving the methanol. evaporate and this is your tren. if the acetone didn't pull the estradiol then you can use an organic solvent such as ether, toluene, benzene, or even mineral spirits to pull out the tren. You could just use the organic solvents on the pellets after extracting both the tren and est with methanol. you may get some estradiol as it is slightly soluble in orgs. but then that's what anti-estrogens are for. Anarchy in the USA!
: : Acutally all the revalor I've seen is free estradiol, the benzoate is in Synovex, implus, etc.
: I don't think it matters if its estradiol or benzoate! they (polar because of the OH on 17)are sol. in acetone (polar) but not in organic solvents . Look at DHEA sulfate and what it is sol in. Insol in acetone and it looks like test prop except the ketone is on the 17 instead of the 3! Anarchy in the USA!
I think EB and TP would both be very soluble in acetone and therefore this is not a good solvent to crystallize the EB from. According to the
Merck index though, EB is sparingly soluble in ether while TP is very soluble.
Also it makes a big difference if it is free estradiol or the benzoate ester. Free estradiol has the free
phenolic hydrogen available which can make water soluble salts with added NaOH or KOH at high enough pH. With EB this phenolic group is
esterified.
PA