Posted by moonface on February 21, 1997 at 14:28:14:
In Reply to: Re: TO: Err Elvis, I think you got the wrong guy here posted by Another Jeff on February 21, 1997 at 08:18:55:
: : I read your post in regards to Nubain. Your perception on Nubain is completely
: : inaccurate. It doesn't matter how the drug differes from a opiate, it is still
: : an opioid and causes all of the usual side-effects, including withdrawl symptoms.
: : I have used it extensively. I liked it because of it's long half-life. I got
: : addicted to it and it damaged my life.
: : You offered some very bad advice. I'm hoping no one took it.
: : I think you're a moron. (FYI)
: Hey Elvis,
: Glad to know your still alive. If you look at the
: posts about Nubain you will see that Dittohead
: dittoed a post stating to stay away from nubaine
: and someone else posted under his post (Moonface)
: stating the technical opiate agonist stuff and
: suggesting the concern was way overstated. I think
: you just flamed the wrong guy.
: Another Jeff
Yup, I posted in defense of Nubain and still think your claim is bullshit. Nubain, due to it antagonistic properties, IS much MUCH more difficult to overdose and/or become dependant on than heroin and morphine. Damn, Hydrocodone (Vicodin) is a pure opiate agonist and can be used continuously for years at a time and withdrawl symptoms are usually only mild. Addicted, Ruined you Life?? Your full of shit. If you have a ruined life it's your own fault, looking to blame an innocent drug is reduculous. It's not a killer buzz to begin with and addicts(heroin) generally think it's shit. I understand in right wing america there is a major stigma about any misused drug but chemically, Nubain and Heroin are on two ends of the spectrum. You're probably like many of those sad heroin users who run around acting and thinking like there addicted and all the while will not show notable withdrawls when away from the drug. Physical Dependancy is different from self administering a drug because you THINK you need it. Maybe you THOUGHT you were addicted for whatever personal reason but I highly doubt you REALLY were. If you needed an opiate high that much, Nubain is not really the buzz to look for. In fact, Due to it's mixed properties NUBAIN IS NOT EVEN A CONTROLLED NARCOTIC! You're the MORON!