Posted by WG on February 13, 1997 at 14:15:38:
In Reply to: Re: Anti-aromatase... proviron posted by UNABOMBER on February 13, 1997 at 13:56:33:
: : : From my experience, it seems that Nolvadex, while able to prevent water
: : : retention during a heavy steroid cycle, seems to slow down or reduce
: : : results in muscle growth. Now, there are other anti-armoatases around. In
: : : particular, I am talking about proviron. Although proviron has never been
: : : an androgen that is known for causing dramatic or indeed any increases in
: : : strength and/or muscle mass, it has been used successfully, or so I've
: : : heard as a water retention preventer. Since it is an androgen, I would
: : : think that it may contribute to muscle growth instead of reduce it like
: : : nolvadex, but another line of argument is that as an androgen, it would
: : : compete for or down-regulate androgen receptors, thus rendering the other
: : : steroids less effective, while not causing much in terms of muscle growth
: : : itself. Does anyone have an opinion on this? I have no problem causing
: : : muscle growth, and do not mind holding water while doing it, but right
: : : now, the bloat is going out of control.
: : : Asia
: : Few months ago I tried a short cycle of oxymetholone (Anadrol) along with Proviron (3 pills a day). Although I had no problems with aromatization (no sore nipples, etc), I got a huge water retention with edema in the feet. So, in this respect, Proviron was useless as water retention preventer.
: : HTH,
: : WG
: You aren't going to find too many drugs that will caue water retention like Anadrol. Maybye you have a very high predispostion to water retention with that drug. Maybe your edema would have been much more severe if you wouldn't have taken the Proviron. Have you ever taken Anadrol without Proviron. Proviron should be lowering the level of estrogen in your body and decreasing water retention. Feel free to tear into my assumptions. ANARCHY!
For sure I am very sensitive to Anadrol. And it does make sense assuming that without Proviron my water retention would be even greater. Who nows ?
WG