Posted by nandroloney on February 05, 1997 at 15:56:28:
In Reply to: Re: High dosage Cycle(Lori, Dr.L opinion especially desired) posted by Lori on February 05, 1997 at 11:47:20:
: : Within 2-3 months I'm going to say "what the fuck" and start using 1-2gm of AS per week. This cycle will be supplemented with Cytadren (250mg per day), Nizoral shampoo (once per day), Saw Palmetto Extract, and just about every OTC liver detoxifying agent on the market. The stack will probably cosist of test enanthate, d-bol, trenbolone acetate, and either primobolan or deca. I will also be taking in up to two gallons of water/liquid in an effort to detox the kidneys as much as possible. I know using high dosages is "bad" but I am looking for any suggestions on additional supps/pharmaceuticals that will help my body deal with it (Teslac is out of the question), but everything (pretty much) is available to me. I will be posting the results of my "before cycle" blood tests and my "after cycle" blood tests.
: : BTW, I've done my share of cycles, but I feel this is necessary to "take it to the next level," I'm currently 6'1" @276lbs. Please do not try a cycle like this unless you have experience with anabolics.
: : Mike
: I would really such staying away from the trenbolones... they are really hard on the system, besides, this would be more of a cutting drug and it appears that you really are on the off season.
: Another cmpd that I am a bit worried about is Aminoglutal. (Cyt). You are aware that if you are having any internal bleedings or damage that your body WILL NOT be able to handle the stress properly and you may go into shock and then death.
: I'm not fully sure what happened to Munzer, I don't think any of else will ever know but his use of Cyt. may have had a definate correlation.
: It's just best to stick with the simple basics like test,deca, dbol.
: Try to get a baseline blood test (I know you won't do this..most of use don't) to try to establish what you're like before.
: 1-2 grams weekly is the begin. level of what most Pros use, so I guess you're aware of possible sterility if you stay on constantly ?
: I use to think that there was an off cycle (clean) but it seems like no one is doing that anymore because of the competition.
: AND it is true.. the more you use, the more you grow.... can't explain why for now but it does work.
Thanks for the help Lori. As I said in my post I will be posting the results of my blood tests before and after this cycle. As for the Cytadren, I will only be taking 250mg. as an anti-aromatase. If I remember correctly the dosage for cortisol suppression is roughly 8x this amount. I don't think you can compare the standard effects/side-effects of a pharmaceutical when taken at a "normal" dosage to the effects/side-effects it has when taken at an extreme dosage. And I really dislike it when people point to Munzer as evidence that AS/Cytadren/Thyroid/diuretics/etc. are terribly dangerous drugs, because if half of what this guy was supposedly taking is true then it is surprising that he wasn't dead after the first week. BTW I am aware of the potential for sterility, but not too concerned. Mainly trying to avoid liver/Kidney problems.