Re: ATTN: decca dead head

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Posted by decca deadhead on January 24, 1997 at 20:02:36:

In Reply to: ATTN: decca dead head posted by met 4 man on January 22, 1997 at 21:30:08:

: i read your post below about metformin and was wondering if you
: know of anyone who has had experience with taking it with creatine?

: i am going to take it with phosphagen HP, and read it should be taken
: 3 (500mg tabs) times a day WITH the phosphagen (not before or after)
: and was wondering if this with add to the gains made on phos. HP and also
: if it can avoid spillover into fat cells since during the load up phase
: i will be taking 6 servings which is about 200gms of pure dextrose (800 cal)
: and i usually do notice some extra bloat around the belly when loading, so
: maybe metformin could limit spillover into fat cells and more into muscle??

: also i read that one should gradually increase the dose and not start off with
: 3 a day but most people i read about take 3 right from the start.

: any info would be great either by e-mail or on the board.

: Thanks

Sorry I didnt answer sooner but I dont check this every day. As far as creatine goes the literature I have read does not support the supplement co. claims that sugar of any form increases the uptake of creatine. Creatine uptake is dependent upon how much you have stored to begin with, less storage more results, also since it is stored in muscle the more muscle the more gain one may have. I would recommend finding a simple generic pharm quality creatine, it is cheaper, does the same thing as phospagains without the added carbs.

You certainly need to titrate the dosage of metformin. Start with one 500mg tab every 12 hrs. Use the med before meals as it helps decrease the absorbtion of carbs, remember this is a cut drug so dont expect any spectaculr gains when taking it. Also space you carb intake out as your body will not be producing much glucose and will need it. Recently talkin to others I find they believe it helps rduce bodyfat by making you nauseated, I dont know what do you think.

Remember THINK and READ.

S. Saylor

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: : i read your post below about metformin and was wondering if you : : know of anyone who has had experience with taking it with creatine? : : i am going to take it with phosphagen HP, and read it should be taken : : 3 (500mg tabs) times a day WITH the phosphagen (not before or after) : : and was wondering if this with add to the gains made on phos. HP and also : : if it can avoid spillover into fat cells since during the load up phase : : i will be taking 6 servings which is about 200gms of pure dextrose (800 cal) : : and i usually do notice some extra bloat around the belly when loading, so : : maybe metformin could limit spillover into fat cells and more into muscle?? : : also i read that one should gradually increase the dose and not start off with : : 3 a day but most people i read about take 3 right from the start. : : any info would be great either by e-mail or on the board. : : Thanks : Sorry I didnt answer sooner but I dont check this every day. As far as creatine goes the literature I have read does not support the supplement co. claims that sugar of any form increases the uptake of creatine. Creatine uptake is dependent upon how much you have stored to begin with, less storage more results, also since it is stored in muscle the more muscle the more gain one may have. I would recommend finding a simple generic pharm quality creatine, it is cheaper, does the same thing as phospagains without the added carbs. : You certainly need to titrate the dosage of metformin. Start with one 500mg tab every 12 hrs. Use the med before meals as it helps decrease the absorbtion of carbs, remember this is a cut drug so dont expect any spectaculr gains when taking it. Also space you carb intake out as your body will not be producing much glucose and will need it. Recently talkin to others I find they believe it helps rduce bodyfat by making you nauseated, I dont know what do you think. : Remember THINK and READ. : S. Saylor

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